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Old 06-17-2015, 06:47 PM
Vesrah Vesrah is offline
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DEF Tanks are backordered

Long story short - my 335D has been at BMW for >1mo at this point waiting on a new DEF tank. Dealer told me today that they are hoping to have one in at the end of July. Word of warning for anyone.
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Old 06-17-2015, 07:36 PM
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Nah... I think they wrecked your car on a weekend joy ride and feverishly trying to repair the body damage in addition to replacing that DEF tank...























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Old 06-17-2015, 07:36 PM
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Wouldn't be the first time I've owned a car that happened to.
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Old 06-17-2015, 10:11 PM
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I'm waiting on the active tank too. End of July is when mine was promised. My dealer said it was okay to drive till it comes in. Hope he's right.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:34 AM
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Dealer has had my d for 12 weeks waiting on an scr replacement.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:07 AM
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Have you looked at this service? http://xemodex.ca/ca/?s=urea&post_type=product
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:30 AM
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Having to replace the entire tank because a sensor died is such a scam, im glad to see there is someone filling that gap. Theres nothing special about the tank that should prevent you from being able to replace the sensors other than that BMW doesnt offer the sensors individually so you would have to source them on your own.

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Old 06-18-2015, 04:00 PM
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If I was out of warranty I would tear into this thing on my own I'm sure. But as long as it's bmw's dime they can replace the whole car as far as I'm concerned if a light bulb burns out.
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Old 06-19-2015, 09:28 AM
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Old 06-27-2015, 03:36 PM
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I waited about 1.5 months for a DEF tank on my X5d in the spring time. They rotated me thru a bunch of different loaners, so it wasn't a big deal really.
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Old 06-27-2015, 06:21 PM
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Still haven't heard from my dealer, we have a 1500 mile trip planned at the beginning of the month. Last I heard from the dealership it's perfectly fine to drive the way it is but is it? Granted, my car is cpo and I'm at 46k miles now with original warrantee till January of next year. So any harm done would surely show up before I run out.
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Old 07-24-2015, 02:23 PM
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I'm still being rotated between loaner cars.
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:12 PM
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I'm still driving mine with the service engine soon light going strong. It'll be here....... Who knows. Vacation miles ended up being 2518 miles with an average mpg over all of 32.5 hand calculated. Click image for larger version

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Old 07-25-2015, 06:32 AM
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I called my dealer today and he said they are 622 tanks back ordered for the U.S. And it would be at least a month. Joy.
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Old 07-25-2015, 06:57 AM
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It will be informative when the failure modes and their rates are revealed.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:23 AM
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It will be informative when the failure modes and their rates are revealed.
It should come as no surprise that systems using sensors, pumps, valves, etc. with a fluid that crystallizes like DEF is going to have some maintenance issues. The 'next higher assembly" revenue generating tactic is aptly applied here, and just one of many examples of this type scam BMW and other manufacturers perpetrate on the buying public. Try to buy the simple 45-degree nylon coupler for the throttle intale and you get a >$300 set including the boot and steel tube below it, ostensibly due to the non-reusable clamps on it.

It's just one rip-off after another...
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:37 PM
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Call from my dealer today, I have an appointment Friday at 7:45 to have my tank changed out.
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Old 07-30-2015, 04:07 AM
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It should come as no surprise that systems using sensors, pumps, valves, etc. with a fluid that crystallizes like DEF is going to have some maintenance issues. [ ... ] It's just one rip-off after another...
LOL DEF is 2/3 pure water! Saturated solutions of mega-toxic chemicals - KCr- are easy, not cheap.

The problem is of supply and demand of unique/rare applications. And we are paying for the transition from metal to plastic so than the mfgrs can save weight - on our nickle.

My systems were well documented to use SAE standards. The CPI - Chemical Processing Industry - fittings-salesman had a huger budget and I spent $$Millions$$ correcting and replacing bastard-joints of half SAE and half CPI threads because the senior enlisted mechanic was so proud of his supply of useless shiny fittings.
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Old 08-02-2015, 10:31 AM
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LOL DEF is 2/3 pure water! Saturated solutions of mega-toxic chemicals - KCr- are easy, not cheap.

The problem is of supply and demand of unique/rare applications. And we are paying for the transition from metal to plastic so than the mfgrs can save weight - on our nickle.My systems were well documented to use SAE standards. The CPI - Chemical Processing Industry - fittings-salesman had a huger budget and I spent $$Millions$$ correcting and replacing bastard-joints of half SAE and half CPI threads because the senior enlisted mechanic was so proud of his supply of useless shiny fittings.
Of course, who cares about those that pay the bills
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Old 08-04-2015, 04:49 PM
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Fwiw I've been driving with an implausible temp sensor in the scr for the past 20k miles. My Indy assured me that I would be fine in warm weather. He said it might be a problem in cold weather, but time will tell. I keep an eye out for any effects from the faulty sensor, but so far so good. I'm still undecided about gutting it and getting a tune, though the repair service has my attention now. I may go that route soon since I'm not sure I want to make the exhaust unclean(mostly because I bicycle frequently and I'd be a blatant hypocrite to myself when I get annoyed at breathing in others' exhaust- though it'd probably be worth the hypocrisy to enjoy the benefits of a gutting).

Got it at 68.5k miles a year ago next month. I'm at 123k now. Had cbu cleaning preemptively done at 100k. Had to recently replace 1 hose causing a vacuum leak and a bad MAF sensor. Other than that, it's been a hoot. Just did 2300 miles last week averaging 36.1 mpg(car computation) at mostly 80 mph, from near sea level up to 8000 ft and back.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:41 PM
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I drove about 15k with my sensor bad before finally receiving my back ordered tank. No ill effects that I can tell either. Knock on wood
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:58 PM
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Count me in! Dealer just gave me the car back to drive until the tank comes in. They're expecting a 4-6 week wait.

Is BMW Covering the total cost for any of you? They told me they'd be covering 95% of the repair cost.
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Old 08-16-2015, 05:15 PM
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I was still under the 4/50
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:24 AM
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If you live in California (or a select few other states), the DEF/SCR tank is covered up to 7 years/70,000 miles under the extended California emissions warranty.

I too have been waiting for over 6 weeks now... I have not been given an ETA, they simply say it's been back-ordered.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:06 AM
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I too have been waiting for over 6 weeks now... I have not been given an ETA, they simply say it's been back-ordered.
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They're expecting a 4-6 week wait.

That is what they told me 4 months ago. I bought a new car and am simply waiting for the D to come back so I can offload it.
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