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Old 03-08-2015, 11:22 AM
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Diesel in my neighborhood is 26 cents per gal cheaper than reg unl

I was shocked the other day to find that diesel at my regular station (USA in Thousand Oaks, CA) was .26 per gal less than reg unl....3.17 vs 3.43. They say fuel pricing is all market driven but why, after years of being more expensive, is diesel suddenly much less? If anyone knows, please advise....I would like to know.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:28 AM
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I was shocked the other day to find that diesel at my regular station (USA in Thousand Oaks, CA) was .26 per gal less than reg unl....3.17 vs 3.43. They say fuel pricing is all market driven but why, after years of being more expensive, is diesel suddenly much less? If anyone knows, please advise....I would like to know.
I believe its related to the Exxon Mobile refinery explosion and union strike.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/g...rinks-29282189

My local chevron I fill up at is currently:

Reg: $3.39
Mid: $3.47
Prem: $3.55
Diesel: $2.95

I'm enjoying the large gap again, especially from prem since thats what I'd be putting in an equivalent car.

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Old 03-08-2015, 01:54 PM
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That's awesome.

Haven't seen that here in FL yet, must say.
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Old 03-08-2015, 03:59 PM
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Sooo, are you bragging or complaining?
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Old 03-08-2015, 04:18 PM
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See it as a current trend around som parts of CA. Definitely a good thing... We own 3 oil burners.
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Old 03-08-2015, 06:11 PM
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Sooo, are you bragging or complaining?
Neither. I was asking if anyone knew why this change has occurred.
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Old 03-08-2015, 08:20 PM
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Neither. I was asking if anyone knew why this change has occurred.
In California, the summer formulation costs more to produce than winter blend. Hence, one of the factors. Another excuse for the annual spring gas price rise is the oil companies routinely close some of their refineries for "routine maintenance" causing a supply shortages and in turn, price hikes. Happens EVERY YEAR!
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Old 03-09-2015, 09:07 AM
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Another excuse for the annual spring gas price rise is the oil companies routinely close some of their refineries for "routine maintenance" causing a supply shortages and in turn, price hikes. Happens EVERY YEAR!
Refinery routine maintenance (aka turnaround or 'TAR') is a vital - not to mention labor intensive - set of work processes necessary for continued operations at a refinery.

It's not accurate to describe this as merely another "excuse for the annual spring gas price rise."
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:41 AM
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Refinery routine maintenance (aka turnaround or 'TAR') is a vital - not to mention labor intensive - set of work processes necessary for continued operations at a refinery.

It's not accurate to describe this as merely another "excuse for the annual spring gas price rise."
Regardless of being necessary and labor intensive as you say, it's still questionable as to the timing. When a few refineries close at the same time it creates an artificial shortage and resulting in a price increase. Oil companies use to routinely report record quarterly earnings when gasoline prices were rising. They will use any means or excuse to raise prices and increase profits.
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That's awesome.

Haven't seen that here in FL yet, must say.
...and it never will, at least not due to the same reasons. California state government also bans the importation of fuel due to emissions standards for certain blends of fuel, so this gasoline supply shortage will be ongoing for a while until they can get the refineries back up to production. Ultimately this will also effect Diesel prices in CA, just not yet.
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Old 03-09-2015, 12:27 PM
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I have to admit I thought you were kidding so I checked Gasbuddy and you're right!! But I'm sure it's only temporary ... you should stock up before the price goes up!
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Old 03-09-2015, 01:19 PM
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I have to admit I thought you were kidding so I checked Gasbuddy and you're right!! But I'm sure it's only temporary ... you should stock up before the price goes up!
Lol I typically wont comment unless Im sure that I am right. I hate stepping in sh**
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:46 PM
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If it happens here. Good bet the station doesn't sell enough and trying to move
the stock along. What have read, sure do not want low turnover stations.

But will not happen around here too many F250's RAM Diesels and GM 2500's D
hauling ranch equip and livestock. Diesel cars are not enough for a count. Wal
Mart usually cheapest but station layout is a traffic mess. Almost all nozzles
slightly larger than BMW, so you have to twist and really push sometimes.
Its getting better so must be finally bending the spout some.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:56 AM
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Volume stations are definitely the way to go. The USA station I use gets two 8-10000 gallon deliveries per day. That is a lot of product.
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Old 03-10-2015, 10:08 AM
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You guys are missing the biggest reason why CA gas is almost $1 more than the neighboring states: 'Special' CA blend gasoline. Because of stupid CARB we cannot import any of the other 49 states gasoline. So we're stuck using only gas that can come from CA refineries which are already stretched thin even when operating at 100%. For example, NV has only 1 native refinery yet their gas doesn't fluctuate like CA, reason is they can import gasoline from all the surrounding states...
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:45 PM
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You guys are missing the biggest reason why CA gas is almost $1 more than the neighboring states: 'Special' CA blend gasoline. Because of stupid CARB we cannot import any of the other 49 states gasoline. So we're stuck using only gas that can come from CA refineries which are already stretched thin even when operating at 100%. For example, NV has only 1 native refinery yet their gas doesn't fluctuate like CA, reason is they can import gasoline from all the surrounding states...
As of 2012 CA had 14,549,841 registered vehicles and NV had just 1,079,145. CA needs the cleanest burning fuels available because us humans breath the same air as the cars, whereas in NV it doesnt matter because practically nobody lives there.
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As of 2012 CA had 14,549,841 registered vehicles and NV had just 1,079,145. CA needs the cleanest burning fuels available because us humans breath the same air as the cars, whereas in NV it doesnt matter because practically nobody lives there.
Except the highly populated parts of NV also use similar formulations as neighboring CA counties. Gas in Reno is not any cheaper than it is in Truckee.
Washoe county (Reno) and Clark county (Vegas) both require once a year smog checks. For the diesels that includes exhaust pipe measurements at various speeds.
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Old 03-21-2015, 05:41 PM
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I was shocked the other day to find that diesel at my regular station (USA in Thousand Oaks, CA) was .26 per gal less than reg unl....3.17 vs 3.43. They say fuel pricing is all market driven but why, after years of being more expensive, is diesel suddenly much less? If anyone knows, please advise....I would like to know.
Torrance refinery explosion has impacted gasoline production significantly from the Exxon refinery not really diesel.
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The strike is over now. That should help some.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:57 PM
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Gasbuddy appears to have both RUG and diesel about the same price in LA as here, with RUG about 50cents cheaper. The big difference is in premium gas, which is 60-70 cents more than diesel in LA but 10 cents cheaper than diesel here. I recon the lesson is shop around.
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