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Old 09-20-2014, 04:38 PM
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I finally got rid of the run-flats

This week I got rid of the 225/45/17 Continental run flat tires and the two bent rims they caused. I was able to exchange the wheels for the same style OEM wheels that had been reconditioned and chromed from a company in business since 1977 called Wheel Concepts in my hometown of Thousand Oaks CA. The tires I chose are 245/40/17 Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S.

The difference is amazing....it feels like a different car. Smoother, quieter, better cornering, more responsive, etc. If any of you has been hesitating about dumping the run flats and replacing them with conventional tires.....do it, you will be much happier with your car.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:48 PM
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Old 09-20-2014, 09:29 PM
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This week I got rid of the 225/45/17 Continental run flat tires and the two bent rims they caused. I was able to exchange the wheels for the same style OEM wheels that had been reconditioned and chromed from a company in business since 1977 called Wheel Concepts in my hometown of Thousand Oaks CA. The tires I chose are 245/40/17 Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S.

The difference is amazing....it feels like a different car. Smoother, quieter, better cornering, more responsive, etc. If any of you has been hesitating about dumping the run flats and replacing them with conventional tires.....do it, you will be much happier with your car.
I don't know if your 2009 had the latest generation of run-flats, but my experience, without rims bending at all, was the same otherwise.

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Old 09-21-2014, 06:14 AM
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The conti's were horrible but the RE 960 A/S rft are awsome.
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Old 09-21-2014, 07:17 AM
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Ditto on ditching the run-flats.

For any of you who have gone (or are considering) going with Michelins - here is a story for you:

Perhaps Michelin does this for all tires, but for the Pilot Super Sports, Michelin offers a free towing service if you get a flat.

A couple weeks ago while driving to work in the early am, I was merging onto interstate and making a double-lane-change in the dark while at highway speeds.

As I was merging I heard a loud bang and felt a sharp, but small, jolt. Through my rearview mirror I saw the shadow of something tumbling down the interstate. Within a second, my TPS went off and I hurried to get to the right shoulder.

There was way too much traffic to inspect the damage, or even get our of the car. I called Michelin, and they promptly showed up with a flat-bed wrecker, that brought my d to discount tire.

Turns out the rim was trashed (see pic), and same for the nearly brand-new tire. I'll never know, but I suspect I ran over a receiver-hitch in dark while changing lanes.

In the end, Michelin charged me $0. Discount found a remanufactured factory rim for $325 and charged be $10 for the new tire (the tires did not have road-hazard, but DT put on road hazard "after the fact" as the tires had <200mi on them).

So thumbs-up to Michelin and Discount Tire.

And no regrets on ditching the run-flats in light of this event - the outcome would not have changed much.
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Old 09-21-2014, 07:45 AM
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Yes, Michelin does have this warranty, apparently for all its aftermarket tires: http://www.michelinman.com/automotiv.../warranty.page. OEM tires are not covered.

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Old 09-21-2014, 08:21 AM
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Thanks for the tip zach and the link Pierre.

Does anybody have experience with how BMW handles their road side assistance or wheel/tire protection package if you've replaced the OEM run flats with non-run flats? Do they, for example, take the position that these are based on the vehicle having OEM or equivalent run flat tires or do they not care?
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:00 AM
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I've always been a Michelin man. Solidly engineered tires, never a quality issue.

Unfortunately Discount Tires are not found in South Florida as they were great when I lived in Houston. Free balance and rotate every 5,000 miles or so.

I now buy my tires from a local installer that comes to my home with his truck and he removes, remounts, balances and installs new tires in about an hour. While I sip my own coffee in my slippers observing the entire procedure. He is able to obtain odd sized tires that the other local tire shops never have onhand and charges about the same price.
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Old 09-21-2014, 04:36 PM
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Gosh, I wonder if Michelin would have come to my rescue in WY 53 miles from the nearest town (a very small one I might add) when my right rear PSS went south?
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Old 09-21-2014, 06:54 PM
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Gosh, I wonder if Michelin would have come to my rescue in WY 53 miles from the nearest town (a very small one I might add) when my right rear PSS went south?

I imagine it would take a while...lol. Im about to embark on a 5 state road trip covering CA, OR, WA, ID, & NV so along with my new Falcons I'll be packing my plug kit, fix a flat, and a spare tire kit with space saver spare. I will be driving through many areas with no cell coverage so even if I had paid the extra bucks for Michelins it wouldnt do me good when out of cell range.

Regardless I cant wait to start this road trip....it should be quite the adventure and I cant think of a better car than a 335d to do it in. The last leg will be from Carson City to home in Thousand Oaks via US395 which is a great lightly traveled road through spectacular scenery.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:48 PM
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I imagine it would take a while...lol. Im about to embark on a 5 state road trip covering CA, OR, WA, ID, & NV so along with my new Falcons I'll be packing my plug kit, fix a flat, and a spare tire kit with space saver spare. I will be driving through many areas with no cell coverage so even if I had paid the extra bucks for Michelins it wouldnt do me good when out of cell range.

Regardless I cant wait to start this road trip....it should be quite the adventure and I cant think of a better car than a 335d to do it in. The last leg will be from Carson City to home in Thousand Oaks via US395 which is a great lightly traveled road through spectacular scenery.
Road trips are wonderful in the 335d. I have taken two very long ones: 6,500 miles and about 3,000. I had all those tire rescue items plus a 12v air compressor. Post some pics and a trip report. I did both of mine, but on Bimmerpost.
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Old 09-22-2014, 08:38 AM
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I imagine it would take a while...lol. Im about to embark on a 5 state road trip covering CA, OR, WA, ID, & NV so along with my new Falcons I'll be packing my plug kit, fix a flat, and a spare tire kit with space saver spare. I will be driving through many areas with no cell coverage so even if I had paid the extra bucks for Michelins it wouldnt do me good when out of cell range.

Regardless I cant wait to start this road trip....it should be quite the adventure and I cant think of a better car than a 335d to do it in. The last leg will be from Carson City to home in Thousand Oaks via US395 which is a great lightly traveled road through spectacular scenery.
Totitan,

You should look up a road trip done by a German Driver in a VW Touareg Diesel from Southern tip of Argentina to Alaska as I recall. He broke a record time in completing the journey. A serious road trip for sure!
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Totitan,

You should look up a road trip done by a German Driver in a VW Touareg Diesel from Southern tip of Argentina to Alaska as I recall. He broke a record time in completing the journey. A serious road trip for sure!
Thanks Flyingman I will check it out. My trip isnt nearly that ambitious. I am especially looking forward to spending a couple of days in Carson City. My family moved there when I was in 3rd grade and left when I was in 7th. Those were the best years of my childhood by far, living in a small town of 12000 people. I havent been back since we left in the fall of 1964.
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Totitan, how many miles on your 2009 now? I'm at 77k in my 2010.
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62,000. So far the only repairs have been to the DEF system and a leaking oil line to the turbo. The DEF was covered by a BMW "campaign" and the oil line by my CPO warranty.
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This week I got rid of the 225/45/17 Continental run flat tires and the two bent rims they caused. I was able to exchange the wheels for the same style OEM wheels that had been reconditioned and chromed from a company in business since 1977 called Wheel Concepts in my hometown of Thousand Oaks CA. The tires I chose are 245/40/17 Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S.

The difference is amazing....it feels like a different car. Smoother, quieter, better cornering, more responsive, etc. If any of you has been hesitating about dumping the run flats and replacing them with conventional tires.....do it, you will be much happier with your car.
what caused the bent wheels??
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what caused the bent wheels??
When you hit a pothole with a run flat tire, very little of the impact is absorbed by the sidewall and chances are that the wheel will become slightly out of round. I didnt know I had bent wheels until I took my car to the dealer for a slight high speed vibration. They checked bearings, ujoints, driveshaft, differential, and finally discovered that I had two slightly out of round front wheels. The SA said since BMW has started using run flat tires, bent wheels are very common. He said that more than half the cars they certify as CPO need one or more wheels replaced.

It is not just a BMW problem either. Two of the wheels on a Masarati Gransport that I take care of have actually cracked and started leaking from hitting potholes with rft's.
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When you hit a pothole with a run flat tire, very little of the impact is absorbed by the sidewall and chances are that the wheel will become slightly out of round. I didnt know I had bent wheels until I took my car to the dealer for a slight high speed vibration. They checked bearings, ujoints, driveshaft, differential, and finally discovered that I had two slightly out of round front wheels. The SA said since BMW has started using run flat tires, bent wheels are very common. He said that more than half the cars they certify as CPO need one or more wheels replaced.

It is not just a BMW problem either. Two of the wheels on a Masarati Gransport that I take care of have actually cracked and started leaking from hitting potholes with rft's.
Interestingly enough, the standard sport wheels are tough - I smashed one on a curb enough to bend the right rear hub (I wasn't used to the car yet) and it had no structural damage or bending. My RFT was OK too.

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I recently got rid of my run flats as well. Went with Continental DWS. I am amazed at how much better the car rides. The new tires dampen the bumps a lot. As for bent rims, I still have 3 bent and one cracked from this winter's potholes with run flats. I don't notice a shake but the stealership said they were bent.
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I recently got rid of my run flats as well. Went with Continental DWS. I am amazed at how much better the car rides. The new tires dampen the bumps a lot. As for bent rims, I still have 3 bent and one cracked from this winter's potholes with run flats. I don't notice a shake but the stealership said they were bent.
Mine didn't shake either but it had a slight vibration between 75-85 which is the speed range my car is at for most of the miles it is driven. Now there is no vibration at any speed.
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The run flats that came on my 328d seem really good, but I wonder how non run flats compare. So, far I have no complaints with my run flats.
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The run flats that came on my 328d seem really good, but I wonder how non run flats compare. So, far I have no complaints with my run flats.
I'm in the same boat. No real complaints with my Pirelli Cinturato P7 summer run flats. However, I will soon start looking for a set of winter tires and I am not sure if I should go for run flats or regulars.
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The run flats that came on my 328d seem really good, but I wonder how non run flats compare. So, far I have no complaints with my run flats.
Good article on why rft's suck

http://tires.about.com/od/understand...flat-Tires.htm
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I disagree with the article and that they are bad (maybe the article is dated). I think run flats have come a long way (especially in the last couple years), as I noticed no difference from the run flats and non fun flats. I have run flats on my 328d and our Mercedes GL350. Also, recently run flats have also come way down in price, where they are comparably pried to normal tires.

The article states about a spare tire and I could care less about that. Have been driving for about 30 years and knock on wood have never needed a spare yet and should never with run flats. My Uncle who is in the tire business, swears by the new run flats. But, everyone is different.

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