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Old 06-20-2015, 07:57 AM
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New tires for 2008 X3

I have a 2008 X3 with 15K miles. Current tires are OEM. Ties are 18" and the body line is sport but I don't think it is the sport version.

After 8 years the original OEM Scorpion tires are showing wear and tear. I live in NM where snow is not too much of an issue but occasionally need to drive on snow. The snow performance of the Scorpions has been horrible unless the snow is very light.

I am looking to replace them with either a Continental ExtremeContact DWS or Pirelli P Zero Nero All Season. Any suggestions / ideas on these tires as well as others? I am looking for all season tires.

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Old 06-20-2015, 09:33 PM
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I have the Pirelli P Zero Nero and they have been fantastic for the first 10K miles. No issues whatsoever and highly recommend them. Good price too.
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Old 06-20-2015, 09:42 PM
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Thanks! Any issues with the Tire Pressure Monitoring System?

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Old 06-21-2015, 04:23 AM
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No issues with TPMS. bought the set of tires from Discount Tire and they reinstalled the TPMS parts
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:40 AM
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I had the scorpions and they were terrible, changed to the Continental ExtremeContact DWS and it was night and day difference. The problem you may have is that DWS are hard to come by, I think they've been discontinued. I'm so happy with them that I'm thinking of finding another set and have on reserve if they're in fact discontinued. It's a much softer ride compared to the worn out scorpions.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:35 AM
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I live in MN and I will tell you the OEM Scorpions have been awesome in the snow and ice. My tires have always been less than two years old.
I can say with a degree of confidence that the poor snow performance you experienced was a result of your rubber being hardened by age. Soft rubber does MUCH better in slippery conditions.

Nevertheless, I had the Conti's on a Maxima I owned. They were awesome, albeit not nearly as good as the snow tires I run in winter.
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:08 AM
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Is there a reason you're not considering Michelins?
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Old 06-22-2015, 01:51 PM
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I have the Pirelli P Zero Nero and they have been fantastic for the first 10K miles. No issues whatsoever and highly recommend them. Good price too.
+1 very happy with mine.

Do not deviate from the tyre sizes shown on the door sticker and change all 4 tyres at the same time.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:17 PM
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Is there a reason you're not considering Michelins?
Nothing against Michelins. In fact Michelin and Pirelli are my top choices for tires. Any suggestions?
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:21 PM
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+1 very happy with mine.

Do not deviate from the tyre sizes shown on the door sticker and change all 4 tyres at the same time.
Thanks! Will do that.

A friend also suggested Cinturato P7 All Season Plus. I am not too familiar with the touring tires. Tire rack rates them better than Neros for snow/ice handling.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:46 PM
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I live in MN and I will tell you the OEM Scorpions have been awesome in the snow and ice. My tires have always been less than two years old.
I can say with a degree of confidence that the poor snow performance you experienced was a result of your rubber being hardened by age. Soft rubber does MUCH better in slippery conditions.

Nevertheless, I had the Conti's on a Maxima I owned. They were awesome, albeit not nearly as good as the snow tires I run in winter.
Thanks for the detailed reply. Man, you really drive in MN snow with all seasons? !!!!!

In my case I do not put more than 2- 3 K miles per year on the X3. So my tires are more likely to be impacted by age.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:29 AM
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Man, you really drive in MN snow with all seasons? !!!!!

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In the X3 yes. With the xdrive and 4000 lb curb weight and 50/50 weight balance, it does well.

I run snow tires on my cars.

Most peeps run all seasons. Bear in mind the Minnesotans are some of the slowest (dumbest) drivers in the nation whether the weather is good or bad.


I'm a bit surprised at this thread. Past threads have resolved that only the Scorpions and Conti DWS were good options for the X3.

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Old 06-24-2015, 04:01 AM
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I'm a bit surprised at this thread. Past threads have resolved that only the Scorpions and Conti DWS were good options for the X3.
Wow, I need to return my P Zero Nero's immediately and perhaps I should seek a refund on the very excellent Michelin MXM4's that lasted >50K that preceded the Nero's. With so many options out there, I didn't realize this forum has determined there were only 2 viable choices.
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Old 06-24-2015, 08:47 AM
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many on this forum might be surprised to hear, but I run General G-Max AS-03 on mine because I am cheap and don't feel like spending a bundle on Pirelli's or Continentals.
I live in NY and went through last winter with them on. They seem to have great contact and rarely slips in the snow. So I would recommend General G-Max AS-03 if you don't feel like spending alot of money!

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Old 06-25-2015, 02:39 PM
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I run factory Pirelli Scorpions, which have been fantastic in the snow/ice of the Hudson Valley, NY. Took the car through 18" unplowed roads, no problem. I'm willing to spend a little more on tires (got them installed by the dealer) to avoid guessing games with tires, treads, and the transfer case.
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:26 PM
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I agree that the Pirelli Scorpion STR is the best all-round tire for the E83 X3 from a handling and overall performance perspective, including use in moderate snow (when tread depth still good and rubber not aged).

Not surprising as Pirelli collaborated with BMW engineers on developing that tire while they were designing the suspension, and was the primary supplier.
(Homologation is a big thing in Europe and Mercedes, VW/Porsche/Audi do the same as BMW.)

Not to say that BMW got the suspension right the first year, nor that Pirelli might have done better to make the tire slightly more compliant for American tastes.
(The Scorpion STR-A was their other version intended for large domestic sedans as opposed to SUVs, and had less-rounded shoulders and a somewhat different tread pattern.)

Some came with Michelins and were appreciated by those owners for longevity, and performance nearly as good as the Pirellis, but maybe better suited to a sedan.
Not many owners that received Dunlops or Bridgestones were too happy with them. In fact, those Bridgestone EL42s were almost universally despised on any new car.

For the record, here's the list of factory tires with Part nos. (the infamous Approved, Homogolated or * tires)

Notes:
- not all these tires are/were available in N. America (e.g. the Michelin Diamaris?)
- the P Zero Rosso is a quite different tire to the P Zero Nero
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Old 06-26-2015, 07:34 AM
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I agree that the Pirelli Scorpion STR is the best all-round tire for the E83 X3 from a handling and overall performance perspective, including use in moderate snow (when tread depth still good and rubber not aged).

Not surprising as Pirelli collaborated with BMW engineers on developing that tire while they were designing the suspension, and was the primary supplier.
(Homologation is a big thing in Europe and Mercedes, VW/Porsche/Audi do the same as BMW.)

Not to say that BMW got the suspension right the first year, nor that Pirelli might have done better to make the tire slightly more compliant for American tastes.
(The Scorpion STR-A was their other version intended for large domestic sedans as opposed to SUVs, and had less-rounded shoulders and a somewhat different tread pattern.)

Some came with Michelins and were appreciated by those owners for longevity, and performance nearly as good as the Pirellis, but maybe better suited to a sedan.
Not many owners that received Dunlops or Bridgestones were too happy with them. In fact, those Bridgestone EL42s were almost universally despised on any new car.

For the record, here's the list of factory tires with Part nos. (the infamous Approved, Homogolated or * tires)

Notes:
- not all these tires are/were available in N. America (e.g. the Michelin Diamaris?)
- the P Zero Rosso is a quite different tire to the P Zero Nero
I agree as well. I'm at 154,000 and on me second set of Scorpion's (17's). They are quiet, wear evenly and keep their shape. I see no reason to switch.
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