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Old 03-09-2016, 05:18 PM
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Oops! What have I done?!

I changed my transfer case oil yesterday at 79k miles. Went well. The fluid that came out didn't look terrible honestly. No idea if it had been done before.

Tired to reset adaptations using disv57. No go. Found out that it doesn't work with 2008 and newer models.

So today I plugged in my creator c310 to play with and check for fault codes. Didn't find any.

BUT in the initial menu one of the items is "CBS reset"

Hmmm....

Clicked it.

Two choices:
1. Clear adaptations
2. Engine oil reset

Okay. Sounds fun. Don't need to do an engine oil reset because I did that when I changed my oil 2k miles ago.

So I selected clear adaptation thinking it would reset the transmission and vtg adaptations.

Worked great. Went for a drive and all was well. Got rid of a slight transmission stumble ilthat had recently developed.

Parked the car and it sat for a few hours.

Just now got back in car and now I have that "4x4, brake, !" Triad. What the hell did I do?!?

These are the fault codes now present:

Transmission: CF1C no message from engine management

VGT: 1E, 81, 55, C4 No found!
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:23 PM
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Oooooo!

The plot thickens.....

After turning the car off and on a few times while sorting through my self created debacle the lights are now gone. All appears well.

I'm scared!! Haha
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:39 PM
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Yeah it needs some time to learn.
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:55 PM
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OMGWTFBBQ!!!

That freaked the bajeebuz out of me!

Seems all good now.

Haha. On my test drive after the dreaded triad showed up I was trying to figure out how far I was willing to walk home.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:34 AM
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If you don't mind me asking, how much transmission fluid did you replace? I just the flush on my '08 with 96K mile and added 5.75 quarts, does that sound about right?
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:45 AM
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Have not done the transmission fluid change yet so I can't help you with that one.

The transfer case took almost the entire bottle supplied by BMW.

Will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in the near future though so will update when I do.
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Old 08-09-2016, 04:28 PM
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The end of the story?

Q4: Now that some time has passed, how did the reset turn out? Thanks.
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Old 08-09-2016, 04:51 PM
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It may be that adaptations include the battery charging parameters, State of Charge, State of Health, et cetera.
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Old 08-09-2016, 04:57 PM
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Turned out fine. All lights reset after a few miles of driving.

However: I have zero clue what resetting the adaptations with the creator 310 does. I don't know if it actually reset the transmission and transfer case adaptations as one is supposed to do after changing the fluids or if it did something else. One would hope that it did indeed reset the adaptations to save a trip to the dealership (which is stupid and almost defeats the purpose of working on one's own car) but that almost seems too simple. I would also hope that there was a way to get a definitive answer as to whether the creator 310 can do an actual dealer type reset of these systems but I don't think anybody really knows.

In short: my car didn't explode. Other than that I have no idea what it did.
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Old 08-09-2016, 04:59 PM
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It may be that adaptations include the battery charging parameters, State of Charge, State of Health, et cetera.
VERY possible. Although the fact that resetting the adaptations using the creator 310 caused the transfer case/transmissions lights to turn on and then subsequently turn off after driving for a few miles leads me to believe that it did something a bit more in depth that necessitated these systems to readjust back to the current norm.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:01 PM
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Possibly a solution would be for one of us to actually contact the Creator people and ask them what the hell
Hitting the "reset adaptations" does on their device.

Although the chances of them speaking English are not profoundly great.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:05 PM
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If your car is still throwing a code for transfer case fluid wear, nothing was changed. If not, the. Either the reset cleared the code, or it extinguished on its own.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:12 PM
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My car never threw a code for the transfer case so there was nothing to be cleared.

I changed the transfer case oil as routine maintenance.
Hit the reset adaptations option in the creator 310 for ****s and giggles.
After doing so the triad of lights turned on
Drive around for a few miles.
The lights turned off.

I just emailed creator to see what this option on their scanner does.

Will update when/if I hear back.
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VERY possible. Although the fact that resetting the adaptations using the creator 310 caused the transfer case/transmissions lights to turn on and then subsequently turn off after driving for a few miles leads me to believe that it did something a bit more in depth that necessitated these systems to readjust back to the current norm.
Do you know what are the adaptations for the Transfer Case, and how they are affected by changing the lubricant?

I believe that the only data from the Transfer Case is the actuator motor turns from fully open to fully shut and motor current at fully shut. There aren't too many wires attached to it.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:14 PM
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Oh!!!

I just got a reply to my email!!!!

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

support@szcreator.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain szcreator.com by mx8.szhot.com. [219.133.59.236].

The error that the other server returned was:
550 Local User [support@szcreator.com]disabled. ***65533;***65533;***65533;***65533;***65533;***69 8;***369;***65533;***65533;***65533;***65533;***65 533;
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:32 PM
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Try this one: (and/or replace "support" with "sales")

support@china-creator.com


From http://www.china-creator.com
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:38 PM
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Do you know what are the adaptations for the Transfer Case, and how they are affected by changing the lubricant?

I believe that the only data from the Transfer Case is the actuator motor turns from fully open to fully shut and motor current at fully shut. There aren't too many wires attached to it.
I believe that the transfer case, just as in the transmission, adjusts tolerances (adaptations) to account for clutch wear, oil degradation and other magical stuff.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:39 PM
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Try this one: (and/or replace "support" with "sales")

support@china-creator.com


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Just sent off another email.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:23 PM
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Have relieved the following response so far:

"reset adaptations means it will clear the driving habits;
The device can reset the engine."

Sounds like it only resets the learned transmission behaviors.
Not quite sure what resetting the engine means.

Although that doesn't fully explain why the transfer case warning lights came on after using the c310 to reset adaptations
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Interesting read, I have a c310 also and have been reluctant to hit that reset. Only error code I'm getting now (after clearing a few possibly from years ago) is "1e, 81, 55, c4 No Found". I have had TF case issues in the past (the usual ones) leading me to open the case and replace the heavy chain and bearings inside and of course fluid and servo motor gear. I also replaced the control module (little silver box thing sometimes found under passenger seat or in my case in boot under floor behind battery compartment). All fixed no lights for 18 months but now I have this error code. What exactly does the error above refer too?
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It probably means it can't find a module because it wasn't installed in your car. I wouldn't worry about it.

As far as hitting that reset. Do it. It builds character and strength of will.
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Could it be a module that is there but the car has lost connection with it? It is causing the yellow 4x4 light to be on 24/7. (Unless it's the one other error code i found but that relates to fuel trim 2 (2883)

I pulled the tfcase out with limited tools or experience so you could say I like to live dangerously!

I gave that reset a go but my c310 said the feature wasn't available yet but will be soon? I'm downloading and updating it now on my pc and I'll give it a go in the next hour or so.

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Old 02-01-2017, 07:01 PM
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Just don't freak out when you do it. It will cause the 4x4 and other lights to come in but they will go off after a driving a bit.

Don't know about the module. I have codes like that to but just figured it was for things that either aren't there or just don't speak the language.
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Thanks mate ill give it a go and let you know how it went. I lived with the triad of lights for 12 months before i fixed it.. nothing on this car scares or surprises me anymore.
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Im still getting this message:
My software version is V6.4, is there a newer one?
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