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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 12-01-2014, 03:55 PM
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After searching around for a couple hours and just about having a heart attack over the stealer's prices for a set, I decided on getting the Victor Reinz VCG set at Auto Zone. One problem... it doesn't come with the 15 grommets that are "required."
Does anyone know the part number for the grommets? I can't seem to find it on RealOEM and the dealer didn't give me one. I figured I could find them for a bit cheaper than the $17 the dealer quoted me for the full set.
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:18 PM
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Autozone should have them...if they have the gasket,,they should have the rest of what ya need.
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Old 12-01-2014, 04:26 PM
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I think ECS Tuning has a set. Don't remember the price but I think it was pretty reasonable. I believe this is the part number for the grommets alone. 11121437395

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Autozone should have them...if they have the gasket,,they should have the rest of what ya need.
I'll have to look a little more or ask when I call about the part. As far as buying them online, I need them this week so I can take care of it this weekend, which is why I'd be buying it at Auto Zone.
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As for those 15 grommets... I have to buy new ones or can I reuse the ones there? I'm going to assume I need new ones, but I just wanted to make sure before I drop almost 20 bucks on screws. I went to Autozone today and bought a VCG set, and contrary to what the guy told me, it didn't come with the grommets.
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I'm having the same problem purchased from the same place. Going to check ECS to see if they sell the grommets separately. I don't think they are the mjr source of leakage and do think I could get away for a bit reusing the old ones. But this is before I have gotten the covers off. After seeing the condition of the old ones i may have to rethink this. I'll let you know if I find a set at a reasonable price. By the way, I don't think the kit includes the screws, the $1 something ea is I believe, for the rubber only

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As for those 15 grommets... I have to buy new ones or can I reuse the ones there? I'm going to assume I need new ones, but I just wanted to make sure before I drop almost 20 bucks on screws. I went to Autozone today and bought a VCG set, and contrary to what the guy told me, it didn't come with the grommets.
Depends on their condition, but they’re in all likelihood flat and need to be replaced. Would recommend new grommets, as they’re crucial in maintaining a proper seal.

There also appears to be a switch from Buna to Viton for the OEM valve cover gaskets/grommets. Gloeckler is the OEM and isn’t usually available aftermarket, so this may be an occasion to purchase Genuine BMW.

Here’s some more information on the switch: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=41.
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Bad practice I know, reused my grommets w/o any issues. That was near 12 months ago, car has 190K miles on the clock. Get new set, it's really the right way to go.
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As for those 15 grommets... I have to buy new ones or can I reuse the ones there? I'm going to assume I need new ones, but I just wanted to make sure before I drop almost 20 bucks on screws. I went to Autozone today and bought a VCG set, and contrary to what the guy told me, it didn't come with the grommets.
You can always replace the grommets when you have to replace the Victor Reinz VCG, which will be less than one year. Haven't done much searching about the "best" VCGs, and the ones to avoid . . .?
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As for those 15 grommets... I have to buy new ones or can I reuse the ones there? I'm going to assume I need new ones, but I just wanted to make sure before I drop almost 20 bucks on screws. I went to Autozone today and bought a VCG set, and contrary to what the guy told me, it didn't come with the grommets.
If you don't change the grommets don't bother changing the valve cover gasket. Those grommets are what apply the pressure to the gasket.
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Found 2 sets at ecs, one bmw the other aftermarket. Apparently there are 2 types of grommets at least for the m62tu, 8 top and bottom and 3 up front that are a different variety. I'm ordering a set right now, 22 in all for the m62tu and I'm going aftermarket for bout .75 ea. The bmw ones run over 1.25 ea., I believe. I'm not that impressed with German rubber and don't think aftermarket can be much worse than the stock ones are.

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Bad practice I know, reused my grommets w/o any issues. That was near 12 months ago, car has 190K miles on the clock. Get new set, it's really the right way to go.
I'll probably go to the dealer Saturday morning and pick up some new ones. I know, it's the dealer, but I'm just going to get it done. I've been putting the whole job off for long enough.

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You can always replace the grommets when you have to replace the Victor Reinz VCG, which will be less than one year. Haven't done much searching about the "best" VCGs, and the ones to avoid . . .?
I looked through some stuff about the VCGs, and from what I've read Reinz isn't too bad. I ended up getting Fel-Pro instead, because that's what they had in stock.
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This pretty much says it all regarding VR VCGs: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/what...termarket.html
I used one in conjunction with a vanos job about three years ago, and the VR gasket was leaking in 9 months.
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I've found FelPro to be outstanding gaskets. Never had a problem with them at all.

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This pretty much says it all regarding VR VCGs: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/what...termarket.html
I used one in conjunction with a vanos job about three years ago, and the VR gasket was leaking in 9 months.
That is why I went with the OE gasket when I did the VCG on my 540 this . That isin't a 5 minute job so I didn't want to revisit that anytime soon.
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This pretty much says it all regarding VR VCGs: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/what...termarket.html
I used one in conjunction with a vanos job about three years ago, and the VR gasket was leaking in 9 months.
Good to know. Glad I went with Fel-Pro even though it was 15 bucks more.
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- How to replace the E39 V8 valve cover gasket (1) & how to replace the E39 I6 VCG (1) & which VCG brand to buy (1) & what VCG lubricants to use (1) & what can go wrong when replacing the VCG valve cover gasket which may cause subsequent plastic engine cover leaks (1)
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You can always replace the grommets when you have to replace the Victor Reinz VCG, which will be less than one year. Haven't done much searching about the "best" VCGs, and the ones to avoid . . .?
Just have +1 on the VR gasket having had ongoing leaks- went with the dealer's kit this last time and swear I couldn't see any difference, but sure do hope for better results. Now in all fairness, getting the VCG to seat properly all around, especially near the firewall, has to be done by feel and not sight. At any rate after just 3 years VR gasket reminded me of the original gasket - hard and brittle and came off in pieces.
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