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Old 09-15-2010, 08:00 PM
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Sport wheel durability

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I'm about to place my order for a 535xi (P1, P2, sport seat, Black Sapphire/Oyster) and have been debating the addition of the sport package. I have driven a sport package equipped and non-sport 535 back to back and prefer the slightly firmer ride of the sport (I imagine this is from the larger wheels and lower profile tires, as I understand that there are no differences in the tuning of the suspension). My question--are the 19 inch rims with the lower profile tires less durable? Are you more likely to damage a rim on a pock-marked road? Here in Detroit we are accustomed to heavily damaged road surfaces. Furthermore, is the wider tire a detriment in snow? Thanks!
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Old 09-15-2010, 08:20 PM
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19" are more prone to damage from bad roads. Wider tires better for snow ( more contact).
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:24 PM
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I also live in suburban Detroit and in my experience I rather have the 19 inch rims with air suspension as opposed to the normal steel suspension to help absorb the impact to prevent damage to the rims. My Audi A8L has 19 inch wheel with low proifle rims and it has not had any damaged rims for 4 years as compared to my 2006 Lexus GS300 with 18 inch rims and my 2008 BMW 335xi coupe with 17 inch rims. The reason is that the Audi has air suspension that makes the ride more supple and prevents all the road imperfection and pot holes damaging the rims. The steel suspension in the BMW makes the force on the rims harder causing small bends and vibration on the highway. So far, I had 3 damaged rims on the BMW 335xi coupe and 2 damaged rims on the Lexus GS and 0 damaged rims on the AUdi in the last 4 years. So with the 19 inch rims I will be ordering the dynamic handling package.
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I'm scandinavian and trust me, wider tires are worse in snow. You get more pressure per sq/inch on a narrower tire which is a plus when friction is low. In deep snow a wider tire will also "float" more and reduce friction. So, fat low profiles are a drag in snow.
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:02 AM
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I'm scandinavian and trust me, wider tires are worse in snow. You get more pressure per sq/inch on a narrower tire which is a plus when friction is low. In deep snow a wider tire will also "float" more and reduce friction. So, fat low profiles are a drag in snow.
+1 Go to Tire Rack and read up on winter snow tire packages.
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19" are more prone to damage from bad roads. Wider tires better for snow ( more contact).
Wider tires are definitely not better in snow - narrow is best.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:26 AM
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19" are more prone to damage from bad roads. Wider tires better for snow ( more contact).
You must be from Texas
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:10 AM
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Hi All,
I'm about to place my order for a 535xi (P1, P2, sport seat, Black Sapphire/Oyster) and have been debating the addition of the sport package. I have driven a sport package equipped and non-sport 535 back to back and prefer the slightly firmer ride of the sport (I imagine this is from the larger wheels and lower profile tires, as I understand that there are no differences in the tuning of the suspension). My question--are the 19 inch rims with the lower profile tires less durable? Are you more likely to damage a rim on a pock-marked road? Here in Detroit we are accustomed to heavily damaged road surfaces. Furthermore, is the wider tire a detriment in snow? Thanks!


The sport package does give you the option to tighten the suspension. Take the RF tires off and save them for the summer and return car with them at lease end. Use 1 for a spare (get a rim at tire rack for $80). Get the conti extreme contact DWS tires. Best all weather tire on the market. There great. $950 for a set of 4.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:56 AM
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I'm from Buffalo NY, wider is not better.
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I'm from Buffalo NY, wider is not better.
Unless the tires are studded?
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wider tires better for snow ( more contact).
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i'm scandinavian and trust me, wider tires are worse in snow. You get more pressure per sq/inch on a narrower tire which is a plus when friction is low. In deep snow a wider tire will also "float" more and reduce friction. So, fat low profiles are a drag in snow.
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wider tires are definitely not better in snow - narrow is best.
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you must be from texas
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i'm from buffalo ny, wider is not better.
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:19 PM
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Right you are. Not much snow in TX. I did spend 4 years in Ann Arbor and drove quite a bit but honestly used the same size tire the entire time. I guess common sense didn't prevail here. I stand corrected and I should be more careful before adding my 2 cents in in the future.
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The sport package does give you the option to tighten the suspension.
Not on the xi models. It is the same suspension with or without sport package.
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Old 09-19-2010, 04:18 AM
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Is it a different suspension when you order the sport package on the non-xi model?
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Old 09-19-2010, 07:16 PM
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Is it a different suspension when you order the sport package on the non-xi model?
No it isn't, you just get the option to tighten on the non xdrive. He's probably mistaken on the x drive but I'm not totally sure.

You also get the option to speed up the linkage.
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