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Old 12-20-2003, 10:11 AM
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Really low miles on your new car - not! (m)


This message will shake your faith in the existence of the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus. My oldest son works at a mid to high end European new car dealership here in California. My son was detailing a brand new car for a customer pickup later that afternoon. When he moved the car from the storage lot to the main lot he noticed the odometer read 3 miles, but the trip odometer read 4.3 miles.

Not much "gets by" my son, so he asked one of the mechanics what the deal was. After a bit hesitation the mechanic said that every European car he knows of permits that the odometer can be reset *once* to ZERO. This capability is intended for dealer trades, etc., where the car is possibly driven a couple hundred miles to another dealership, or for the miles that inevitably get racked up by prospective buyers test driving it 15 miles at a pop.

So, how do *you* really know that your brand new BMW had just 11 miles on it when you took possession? When I special ordered my 2003 330Ci I warned my BMW dealer that I'd refuse delivery if it had more mileage than required to get it on and off boats, etc. Based on what I know now, the fact that my car appeared to have just 10.6 miles on it.....well, who knows.

So, what do you think of that? I am beyond surprised, I'm shocked.

Have a great Christmas,

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Old 12-20-2003, 10:16 AM
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Wow, thats the first I have ever heard of that. Not good.
Old 12-20-2003, 10:31 AM
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when i pick up my car, it had 0.6 miles on it. thanks to ED. when I took delivery at dealer, it was almost exactly same when i drop it off in munich.
Old 12-21-2003, 05:56 PM
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I think it's a violation of federal law to rollback an odometer under any circumstances. When the vehicle is sold, the seller must provide a statement of the vehicle's actual miles and any known variation from what's displayed on the odometer, for example, if the instrument was replaced for some reason.
Old 12-21-2003, 06:26 PM
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During the factory tour in Munich, the last step was having a tech test drive the car on rollers hooked up to diagnostic computers. I asked how many miles they run it and if they reset the odometer back to zero. The tour guide said they usually take 5-6 miles to test and they account for this by starting the ODO at something like 999,995 when built. At ED pickup, my car had 3 miles on it.

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Old 12-21-2003, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jh
I think it's a violation of federal law to rollback an odometer under any circumstances. When the vehicle is sold, the seller must provide a statement of the vehicle's actual miles and any known variation from what's displayed on the odometer, for example, if the instrument was replaced for some reason.

I thought this was the case too. Maybe the cars are put through a quick road test, and then most are reset as they leave the test?
Old 12-21-2003, 07:29 PM
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I don't know what capabilities BMW has at their factories or processing centers, but I can assure you that I have never heard of anything this absurd happening at a dealer. In fact, the mere thought of it happening made me laugh, because I know it is that unlikely.

If someone can provide real proof of even one case where this was done, then I'll change my position. Aside from that happening, I have no reason to believe that something like that would be done.
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Old 12-21-2003, 10:44 PM
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Welcome to the board (BTW, I spent five years at Cal Poly!).

I have never heard of anything like that - and I don't believe a word of it. I'll consider it a lie (from the mechanic) until I hear otherwise.
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Old 12-22-2003, 12:52 PM
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Karl Bimmer had 14, count 'em, 14 miles when picked up on 9 December 2002. I figured it was cool, considering his Rosslyn-Bremerhaven-Port Hueneme trip - a lot of unloading and loading, etc.

Considering that I'm -30 miles past Inspection I (30,600+ miles), and 2003 has 8 days left, the first 14 miles don't seem so significant . Crevier's first service appointments aren't until 30 December - I wanted them to do the Inspection I when I was in for the brake pads, but at the time, I was only 1200 miles away from Inspection I, and the requirement is that there must be 200 or less miles to go.

1200 miles for me is about 2-3 weeks!

I do keep an eye out on the odometer when having the car in for service, but the guys at Crevier have been very, very good (don't want to piss off all those rich Orange County people ); I haven't had any problems with someone deciding to take Karl up the 55 to the 5 to Lost Angeles and back!
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