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Old 12-23-2003, 11:46 AM
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I agree, these guys do a lot for us, and take the risk.

Of course, I had to practically force Ron to take a few bucks for the SS mirror screws he gave me and Edscuba at HC, (and he's given me a lot of advice) so who knows if they'd be insulted or not.

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Well I hate to sound unconcerned by it , but my biggest WANT is correct looks color and grain wise and no rattles, that is why I havent replaced mine yet
my biggest concern is looks as to the drivers and pass. side if i do not do the same on the drivers side ,
I guess since my glove box doesn't rattle or droop (amazing what a tube of high temp RTV can do, when you have the box out anyway fro mods), I haven't been too concerned, tho I'll admit the Euro box looks much better. Now in my E39, the damn glove box is just plain intrusive as hell, and that tank should have plenty of protection even with the euro dash.

Hey silber, did you get stuck with that Z3 ebay buy it now or not?

[QUOTE=On another note I was thinking, there are a few people here that spend money on checking stuff like this out, whether it is Andy buying a glove box to demo or Ron making something or designing or any of you guys
I say we make a deal up where we can go to and paypal funds to these people to help cover some of the lost cost in doing this, in the end we are the ones who benefit from there out of pocket expenses, it would be very little from each of us but would help them in doing these things
No i don't mean if someone wants to add suspension to there car that we should send them money, but when someone is buying or building something that we want and there will be a cost,.. 4 or 5 dollars from us would help them out
example: Andy said he is going to order a euro box to check it out but it is not returnable, If by chance it is a flop e.g. wrong grain doest fit due to some unforeseen reason or whatever at least he is not out the money for nothing, you get the gist
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Old 12-23-2003, 11:50 AM
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example: Andy said he is going to order a euro box to check it out but it is not returnable, If by chance it is a flop e.g. wrong grain doest fit due to some unforeseen reason or whatever at least he is not out the money for nothing, you get the gist
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At least in this particular case, I told Andy I'd pay for it and it'd be my loss if it doesn't fit. I need LeatherZ to stay in business more than I need a Euro glove box.
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Old 12-23-2003, 12:11 PM
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Hey Perry i thought I dodged that bullet from anyone hearing about that here on the fest
I still can not believe I hit that damn buy it now, But no I was able to talk with the guy and ebay and explain it, he seemed pretty cool, im still not sure if he is going to hit me with a negative feedback..
I also started to think that worst case If i had to buy it that JonM would have given me top dollar for it since it was pistachio
I am always going to double check what button I hit now on ebay though

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Old 12-23-2003, 03:04 PM
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I might be interested in both sides if they are available in beige.
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Old 12-23-2003, 04:17 PM
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looks like the under pinnings of the dash are diff. to, like the plastic parts that hook to the glovebox and then to the firewall, the same piece that the leatherz fott well lights attach to
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Old 12-24-2003, 04:27 AM
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This link will detail the parts required for the Euro dash conversion in the E39 5 series. There is another link in this site that takes you to pictures of the conversion. I have had this in my last two 5 series cars. The extra knee room is invaluable.

http://www.bmwtips.com/tipsntricks/DZ/dash.htm

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Old 12-24-2003, 08:45 AM
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To answer an earlier question,

Yes the Canadian model glovebox is the same mas the U.S. spec.
Most of our cars are identical to yours save for the 94 M3 (Eurospec) and 95 M540i. There's one of 2 others, but they're not significant.

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Old 12-25-2003, 01:00 PM
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This link will detail the parts required for the Euro dash conversion in the E39 5 series. There is another link in this site that takes you to pictures of the conversion. I have had this in my last two 5 series cars. The extra knee room is invaluable.

http://www.bmwtips.com/tipsntricks/DZ/dash.htm

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Old 12-25-2003, 11:03 PM
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not to harp on the subject but this picture gives a better look see at both side from this angle
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Old 12-25-2003, 11:44 PM
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How did you come up with that?
Sorry I just went backed and looked, I didnt catch the footnote "R" for right hand drive, I was looking at the wrong thing, sorry
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Old 12-26-2003, 05:53 AM
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Ok, once you guys get all this glove box mess sorted out, someone shoudl figure out how they got that steering wheel on that euro M coupe.

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Ok, once you guys get all this glove box mess sorted out, someone shoudl figure out how they got that steering wheel on that euro M coupe.

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I have been contemplating that to, it looks like the parts needed will be the
1. Euro wheel
2. airbag for wheel
3. clock spring
4. wheel trim w/ screw and such

the nut kicker is the airbag that is about 300.00-400.00 bucks

on the other side of it though, I have seen our 3 spoke wheels and airbags on ebay before going for 250.00-350.00 complete so that would offset the cost,
And it is available with the Matte Chrome trim
here is a pic with the matte chrome, I did notice though that the wheel does not have the thumb bulges


I still like this euro part I got from Andy, easy to change and more my price range
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Old 12-26-2003, 11:31 AM
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Well, do the newer 2001 and 2002 coupes need a new airbag? I thought we had the dual stage airbag already. What is the difference between the two?

And on an unrelated note...

The center of my steering wheel can be pushed in about a quarter to a half an inch. Like there is nothing behind it. Kinda flimsy, is it supposed to be this way?

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Well, do the newer 2001 and 2002 coupes need a new airbag? I thought we had the dual stage airbag already. What is the difference between the two?

And on an unrelated note...

The center of my steering wheel can be pushed in about a quarter to a half an inch. Like there is nothing behind it. Kinda flimsy, is it supposed to be this way?
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both are dual stage but, yours and mine is a triangluar bag and the euro one is a round bag, physically diff.
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Old 12-26-2003, 11:54 AM
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Any word on pricing yet from your guy?
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Old 12-30-2003, 08:25 PM
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not pushing
The parts department is closed until after New Years. I do know of someone that is working on the parts. His way would be easier so I am tempted to see what he comes up with.
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The parts department is closed until after New Years. I do know of someone that is working on the parts. His way would be easier so I am tempted to see what he comes up with.
Cool, just dont forget us
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Any more info on this project? I would love to get rid of the rattle box I have now.
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Any more info on this project? I would love to get rid of the rattle box I have now.
Someone here (I will let him post details when he is ready) was able to get one side through a US dealer. He was waiting on the passenger side. I was waiting to hear from him if he could get both sides and how they look. US Dollar is in the toilet and we would get killed on importing them. If it is possible to go through a US dealer it is easier for all.
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Someone here (I will let him post details when he is ready) was able to get one side through a US dealer. He was waiting on the passenger side. I was waiting to hear from him if he could get both sides and how they look. US Dollar is in the toilet and we would get killed on importing them. If it is possible to go through a US dealer it is easier for all.
The drivers side in black was in the NA system.
51 45 8 410 423 $95.00 retail.
I ordered one to see what it looks like. Since I'm always doing things on the car I thought it also might be easier to remove and install. It was supposed to arrive at the dealer yesterday, but didn't. They expected it today, but I didn't check. Will post some pics when it shows up.

The passenger side in black has been added to the NA system.
51 45 8 399 928 $184.00 retail.
I did not order one since I'm using the space in the current glovebox. It's also not a knee room issue. I have no problems with a rattling glove box. I have the Walmarts stick on foam inside and on the back. All seams in the back have been hot glued.
Most important thing on the glove box is to engage the lower support bracket when installing it. This is not mentioned in the repair info and is probably skipped by many.

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The drivers side in black was in the NA system.
51 45 8 410 423 $95.00 retail.
I ordered one to see what it looks like. Since I'm always doing things on the car I thought it also might be easier to remove and install. It was supposed to arrive at the dealer yesterday, but didn't. They expected it today, but I didn't check. Will post some pics when it shows up.

The passenger side in black has been added to the NA system.
51 45 8 399 928 $184.00 retail.
I did not order one since I'm using the space in the current glovebox. It's also not a knee room issue. I have no problems with a rattling glove box. I have the Walmarts stick on foam inside and on the back. All seams in the back have been hot glued.
Most important thing on the glove box is to engage the lower support bracket when installing it. This is not mentioned in the repair info and is probably skipped by many.
Ron,

Do you happen to have the part numbers for beige? Thanks.
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Do you happen to have the part numbers for beige? Thanks.
Beige hase some qualifiers. On the drivers sdie it varies whether you have alarm or not. For black it doesn't for some reason. Beige 2 is similar. Varies with cars too.

My ***guess*** for your 1.9 is:
drivers side up to 4/99 51 45 8 399 925.
drivers side with alarm up to 4/99 51 45 8 410 425. Euro uses a different alarm.

passenger side up to 4/99 51 45 8 399 930.

Have no idea if either is in the NA system. If not, ask your dealer to add them.
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Beige hase some qualifiers. On the drivers sdie it varies whether you have alarm or not. For black it doesn't for some reason. Beige 2 is similar. Varies with cars too.

My ***guess*** for your 1.9 is:
drivers side up to 4/99 51 45 8 399 925.
drivers side with alarm up to 4/99 51 45 8 410 425. Euro uses a different alarm.

passenger side up to 4/99 51 45 8 399 930.

Have no idea if either is in the NA system. If not, ask your dealer to add them.
That's odd concerning an alarm. I take it that Beige 2 is for after 4/99. Thanks, I'll check with my dealer.
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That's odd concerning an alarm. I take it that Beige 2 is for after 4/99. Thanks, I'll check with my dealer.
Odd that there is no alarm concern with black. Beige 2 is from 4/99.
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