VIP Euro Del

Originally Posted by dbs600

Boy oh boy enigma. I've called, I've asked, and one gets a full tank with VIP Delivery; think whatever you want, doesn't faze me. I'm obsessed with all and this is but one thread... fault me for prefering exlusivity in what I do; no worries. And, for the record, I've already requested Bernhard; no way I'd opt for t&a over brains, esp. on a first go at ED, no telling on the second. A little too serious, my friend.

Dude, go to the gas station or become a celebrity..those are your only choices.

Agreed. I think this question has been answered several times now the same way.

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I once heard a comedian say that we've become a society of people walking around feeling entitled to feel slighted. With all due respect to dbs, that's the sense I'm getting here. Dude, you are SO setting yourself up to ruin an amazing expericence by wondering if soemone else is getting a crumb more than you. I can just imagine your anxiety, as you wait in the lounge, complaining that your free food isn't as nice as someone else's free food, and wondering if the gas tank will be full. And what happens if it isn't? Is that going to put a damper on your day?

And as for "A private room for delivery catered with gourmet food and a sound and light show tailored to the individual, as well as dinner reservations at an ultra high end restaurant" - who the heck wants that? It's about the car - not some high-end meal.

Not trying to give you a hard time - just telling you to RELAX. There will ALWAYS be people who get more than you, and people who get less. If there is a VIP delivery, resign yourself to the fact that it's not available. Not for you, anyway, cause you're not Katy Perry, and you're not shooting a show at BMW Welt.

So just sit back, enjoy, and resign yourself now to the fact that the gas tank may or may not be full. (I don't recall, cause I really didn't care.) And, by the way, when it was redelivered in the states, it did come with a full tank.

Oh, and that "sound and light show tailored to the individual" may well refer to the one-on-one interactive computer-based intro and driving simulation your personal rep will show you before the delivery. It includes your name, and some specific features of your car.

And now, to answer your question: nope, I didn't reschedule delivery. I took delivery on Monday, and then found out that the museum wasn't open that day. So I went back the next day for that, and as noted, they welcomed me to use the free lounge (with buffet) again. They also gave me tix to go up the olympic tower next door - regularly about $10 each, IIRC.

You're gonna have a blast - if you let yourself!

Originally Posted by JSpira

I agree - your characterization of Freimann as "007" is spot on.

I'd say more like Alias.

Bond wouldn't need secret gates--he'd find some other way in, either charm or an underground tunnel.

You are picking up A CAR. You happened to decide to do it on vacation. BMW owes you what you paid for. A car. Not dinner and handjobs and unlimited amounts of petrol.

You are not a precious snowflake. Stop thinking you are so god dammed important and stop trying to impress yourself, because its not working on us. You are coming across as a whiny child, which is the antithesis of the"VIP" you picture yourself as.

To paraphrase han solo, you suffer from delusions of grandeur.

Originally Posted by enigma

You can confirm all you want, but I can tell you (as others have) from my own experience that you do NOT get a full tank of gas. BMW used to give out a full tank of gas prior to the Welt.

With VIP delivery (not available to BMW NA customers), you do get a full tank of fuel. The BMW Welt was limited by the fire dept. as to how many new cars could be in the building with a full tank and that number was, I believe, 5 or 6 at any one time.

Some good words, Pinmagic, but you have it wrong - not to mention everyone else does as well. Simply put: not once have I felt entitled in life. And, no, I'm not Katy Perry or whoever that is from the prior link. Everyone is just a bit hung up on the "VIP" name of this delivery type. It is NOT for VIP's, but for people who want something more, above and beyond (isn't that why so many of you have gone on European Delivery in the first place anyway; something more than the common delivery of your car in the states?). This is about a level of service that is POSSIBLE and can be paid for and I wanted to know if anyone here knew about getting it for the US Market (FOR A FEE or whatever the case may be) - whether there was someone special to ask, etc. Overall, once I understood that no one knows here, I should've just been on my way, instead of playing to all the hate; no need to educate you if you're not curious. Anyway, I'm going to have a ball regardless (I'm not planning to have a bad time - come on now!), and the next time you guys are up for ED, I guarantee you'll do your very best to get down to the bottom of this as I have here, or, maybe not.

My last ED was pre-Welt. Very much looking forward to seeing the Welt in Novemeber. But...

The "fire department" excuse for not filling the tanks sounds suspicious (how many German parking garages have offices and malls on top of them? They are filled with cars that are filled with gas). If BMW really wanted to give you a free tank of gas but couldn't due to some fire department regulation, they'd hand out coupons for the closest gas station to the Welt.

Originally Posted by JSpira

With VIP delivery (not available to BMW NA customers), you do get a full tank of fuel. The BMW Welt was limited by the fire dept. as to how many new cars could be in the building with a full tank and that number was, I believe, 5 or 6 at any one time.

Originally Posted by dbs600

Some good words, Pinmagic, but you have it wrong - not to mention everyone else does as well. Simply put: not once have I felt entitled in life. And, no, I'm not Katy Perry or whoever that is from the prior link. Everyone is just a bit hung up on the "VIP" name of this delivery type. It is NOT for VIP's, but for people who want something more, above and beyond (isn't that why so many of you have gone on European Delivery in the first place anyway; something more than the common delivery of your car in the states?). This is about a level of service that is POSSIBLE and can be paid for and I wanted to know if anyone here knew about getting it for the US Market (FOR A FEE or whatever the case may be) - whether there was someone special to ask, etc. Overall, once I understood that no one knows here, I should've just been on my way, instead of playing to all the hate; no need to educate you if you're not curious. Anyway, I'm going to have a ball regardless (I'm not planning to have a bad time - come on now!), and the next time you guys are up for ED, I guarantee you'll do your very best to get down to the bottom of this as I have here, or, maybe not.

If amenities are what you require then you should have done an S Class Mercedes Benz, you would have been given a voucher from the airport to a 5 star hotel where MB would have picked up the tab for the night. Then the next day you would have also recieved a voucher for the taxi ride to the delivery center in Boblingen, where you would have recieved the MB equal of the premium lounge food available, and your car would have been delivered with a full tank of gas. Oh unfortuneately that is the standard MB delivery package for all cars. Maybe there is an enhanced program but I have not experienced it in all my deliveries, and last time they recognized me as a returning customer.

As for the tours offered by the two companies MB beats BMW by a country mile.

Originally Posted by M FUNF

As for the tours offered by the two companies MB beats BMW by a country mile.

I found the BMW Dingolfing tour to be much better than the Benz Sindelfingen or Porsche Stuttgart tours. The Audi Ingolstadt tour is worse. The BMW Munich likely isn't that good either. Rule of thumb - the closer you can get, and the smaller the tour group, the better the tour. But - any tour is better than no tour.

Fair enough,dbs - it was definitely a good question to ask. I think you just came across as a little - ahem - strident. But if there is another level of service available, it'd be nice to know. Personally, I think it's just like everything else in life - there's 1 level of service for us peons, and another for the celebs.

Originally Posted by dbs600

Anyway, I'm going to have a ball regardless (I'm not planning to have a bad time - come on now!)

Well, that's all that matters.

BTW: When I went, the factory was closed for August break. I knew that going in, so I made it a point to head to the VW Glass Building factory in Dresden for a tour. They make the Phaetons there. (Those things sell for up to $180K! )

That was a pretty cool tour - I recommend it, if you're in the area.

Originally Posted by dbs600

This is about a level of service that is POSSIBLE and can be paid for and I wanted to know if anyone here knew about getting it for the US Market (FOR A FEE or whatever the case may be) - whether there was someone special to ask, etc. Overall, once I understood that no one knows here, I should've just been on my way,

I thought my post regarding its (lack of) availability from BMW NA was clear, no?

Originally Posted by JSpira

Per BMW NA, there is no super deluxe, top secret VIP Delivery program for U.S. customers. The program may be available in other markets but it is not a U.S. option.

Originally Posted by JSpira

I thought my post regarding its (lack of) availability from BMW NA was clear, no?

Yes, it was, thank you, but in light of what you said earlier...

Originally Posted by JSpira

As far as I know, BMW decided not to go the VIP route. I'm not sure if the VIP lounge was ever finished actually. I didn't even ask about it on my last two visits but I was told earlier that BMW had decided against a VIP program.

...did you reach out to and get certain confirmation from a contact of yours at BMW, as you seemed to originally believe the program was not available?

I did follow up with this...

Originally Posted by dbs600

Yes, it is available for other markets (Germany), but why not the US? Why not give US customers the ability to spend more for VIP Delivery?

...but I also felt compelled to respond to this...

Originally Posted by M FUNF

I guess the point is, you are not, a VeryIP, if you have to pay for it. VIP status is usually conferred rather not purchased.

...which resulted in the past 10+ posts.

Alright, I have now spent, and wasted, a bit too much of my time here. Case closed.

Thanks for everyones help!

Originally Posted by chrischeung

I found the BMW Dingolfing tour to be much better than the Benz Sindelfingen or Porsche Stuttgart tours. The Audi Ingolstadt tour is worse. The BMW Munich likely isn't that good either. Rule of thumb - the closer you can get, and the smaller the tour group, the better the tour. But - any tour is better than no tour.

I was not referring to the factory tours which I felt were about equal, I was referring to the 5 day tour packages offered by each manufacturer. MB is a much better deal financially.

Having done an ED, I can confidently say that the experience can't get much more "VIP" w/out chicks and blow.

Sure, not having a full tank of gas sucks, but as I understand it (JSpira can correct me) that has more to do with fire prevention requirements, than a desire to stiff us out of $80 in gas.

Originally Posted by M FUNF

I guess the point is, you are not, a VeryIP, if you have to pay for it. VIP status is usually conferred rather not purchased.

That is probably dead on. The Welt Manager showing up for a photo op while you sign the book is more of a marketing scheme than anything else.

What????? No chicks and blow during delivery????? What kind of second rate joint are they running in Munich? This. Will. Not. Do.