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Old 09-29-2010, 05:23 PM
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Can I sue BMW for sensors not working?

So I have sensors on the rear bumper of my car. I was backing out of the parking space and a car was stalling. My sensors didn't even pick anything up, I heard no beeping sound or anything and now I have a dent in my car. Can I sew my dealership or anything?
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:28 PM
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i dont think so... its still up to the driver to look back and make sure he's clear of any obstacles...
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:09 PM
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I'm not sure if you want to "sew" your dealership, they may laugh at you, but you certainly can sue them....if you'd like. You can sue pretty much anybody for anything you'd like...winning on the other hand, is a different story. Good luck, but I'd let this one go...or make a calm, cool, plea to the dealership or BMW, IF the sensors didn't work.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:17 PM
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just because your car takes the idiot out of driving, it doesnt take the idiot out of the driver. That being said, you do the driving, not your car. Look back next time.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:21 PM
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So I have sensors on the rear bumper of my car. I was backing out of the parking space and a car was stalling. My sensors didn't even pick anything up, I heard no beeping sound or anything and now I have a dent in my car. Can I sew my dealership or anything?
You can sue but it's unlikely you would win. The owners manual also contains the following:

"Even with PDC, final responsibility for estimating the distance between the vehicle and any obstructions always remains with the driver."

When I first read this I thought to myself "Who would need such a warning?" Now I've got my answer.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:31 PM
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I would think that with the engine stalling it would have made the PDC inoperable. Why was your engine stalling? Do you have the manual transmission? If you were stalling the car because of your use of the clutch, there is no way you could "sew" or sue BMW.
Ultimately the driver is responsible for the safe operation of the vehicle. Sorry, mate.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:32 PM
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You can sue but it's unlikely you would win. The owners manual also contains the following:

"Even with PDC, final responsibility for estimating the distance between the vehicle and any obstructions always remains with the driver."

When I first read this I thought to myself "Who would need such a warning?" Now I've got my answer.
It's the same reason there are stickers on electric irons that say "Do not iron garment while wearing it."

btw sunny - you owe me damp towel to clean the wine off my computer monitor.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:37 PM
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btw sunny - you owe me damp towel to clean the wine off my computer monitor.
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So I have sensors on the rear bumper of my car. I was backing out of the parking space and a car was stalling. My sensors didn't even pick anything up, I heard no beeping sound or anything and now I have a dent in my car. Can I sew my dealership or anything?
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:40 PM
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So I have sensors on the rear bumper of my car. I was backing out of the parking space and a car was stalling. My sensors didn't even pick anything up, I heard no beeping sound or anything and now I have a dent in my car. Can I sew my dealership or anything?
No. You can't sue. The guy you hit can sue you though. Guess what for.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:44 PM
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It's the same reason there are stickers on electric irons that say "Do not iron garment while wearing it."

btw sunny - you owe me damp towel to clean the wine off my computer monitor.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:46 PM
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:13 PM
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Isn't anybody going to bring up the urban legend about the guy setting the cruise control? Seems to fit in this thread somehow.

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:17 PM
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I understand you are upset, But I think you have to let go and think of it as a new bumper for your car.
I'm sure the old one got some rock chips and maybe bird poops.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:18 PM
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Isn't anybody going to bring up the urban legend about the guy setting the cruise control? Seems to fit in this thread somehow.

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:34 PM
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:38 PM
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:53 PM
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My grandmother says sewing is very theraputic. Maybe a nice quilt will help you get the dent off your mind.
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When I first read this I thought to myself "Who would need such a warning?" Now I've got my answer.
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It's the same reason there are stickers on electric irons that say "Do not iron garment while wearing it."
All these warning labels truly take away the common sense of man.
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Old 09-29-2010, 09:57 PM
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All these warning labels truly take away the common sense of man.
I love the warning on the windshield sun visors that say do not drive while visor is in place.
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This is what worries me about things like pdc and those new auto stop features that MB is advertising...people start to rely on them rather than their own sense of self preservation.


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we are past that tipping point as people will rely on anything but their own sense of common sense or self preservation. if they did that they would have to take self responsibility. we know that most people avoid that like the swine flu.
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