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Old 12-07-2015, 05:47 PM
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X3 2004 with 104000 miles - good car for daughter?

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I am looking at an X3 2004 with 104000 miles. I had it checked out and the oil pan has a leak. Cost to fix is 1300.00. Only a teaspoon of oil is on the garage floor in a 12 hour period. Car fax only shows oil changes and not fluid changes. I am buying this for my daughter. I reading of tire and brake charge costs. Is this the wrong car for a teenager?
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:13 PM
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I moved your question to the X3 forum, you'll get more feedback in here.
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:32 PM
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If your willing to put a lot of money into getting it up to snuff and keeping it that way. If you don't do the work yourself and have a large disposable income then go for it.
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:23 PM
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When I think of first car for a teenager the X3 does not come to mind. Expensive to maintain, gets mediocre gas mileage and you can easily get carried away with the speed and handling. On the positive side it is very safe, fun to drive and if it ever snows where she is, she is all set.

I bought my kid a 2004 Saturn Ion Quad. With the suicide doors. Cheap to keep and safe enough.
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:22 AM
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Don't get it unless she has a trust fund or is a mechanic.
A kid needs something that's essentially maintenance free and reliable.
I bought a Honda Fit for my daughter who's in graduate school. Good enough for now.
Getting a youngster a BMW is too much too soon, in my opinion.
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:16 AM
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I am looking at an X3 2004 with 104000 miles. I had it checked out and the oil pan has a leak. Cost to fix is 1300.00. Only a teaspoon of oil is on the garage floor in a 12 hour period. Car fax only shows oil changes and not fluid changes. I am buying this for my daughter. I reading of tire and brake charge costs. Is this the wrong car for a teenager?
kyjoyn....I bought my daughter a '07 X3 last year @ 131k from a local BMW dealer that had been on CPO for 100k. It's safe, good styling, good in bad weather but expensive to maintain unless you are a wrencher. Double check your oil leak. The pan gasket is pretty good on these, but valve cover gaskets, oil hsg gasket are prone to need changing. At this mileage, if cooling system hasn't been replaced, it's due.
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Old 12-08-2015, 10:45 AM
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What he said!

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If your willing to put a lot of money into getting it up to snuff and keeping it that way. If you don't do the work yourself and have a large disposable income then go for it.
Especially the part about the large disposable income.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:01 PM
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If you and or your daughter wrench and have a garage to work in, and she is ok iwth 22-24 mpg and premium only, good car.
Otherwise no.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:11 PM
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When I think of first car for a teenager the X3 does not come to mind. Expensive to maintain, gets mediocre gas mileage and you can easily get carried away with the speed and handling. On the positive side it is very safe, fun to drive and if it ever snows where she is AND SHE HAS GOOD TIRES ON IT, she is all set.

I bought my kid a 2004 Saturn Ion Quad. With the suicide doors. Cheap to keep and safe enough.
Fixed that for ya. AWD + slick worn down tires = still a deathtrap.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:17 PM
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Buy her a RAV4.
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:53 PM
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Oil leaks!! Could almost guarantee you that the oil pan isn't the only oil leak.
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Old 12-10-2015, 05:35 PM
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Oil leak probably coming from nearly everywhere on the engine's top end, lots of gasket failure points.

For first car, though, I'd suggest something like a 15 year old Honda, Toyota, or GM (Bonneville, 88, etc.). Teens shouldn't be driving something nice as it is bound to get dented or wrecked. My first car (in 1998) was an '84 Olds Delta 88 with rotted bumpers, window frames, and 180k miles. Ran like a top though, and certainly handled all the abuse a 16 year old male driver out in the sticks could throw at it!
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Old 12-10-2015, 09:34 PM
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With all due respect if she's not interested in cars and car repairs, and just wants an appliance just get a Toyota. It'll keep ticking when she doesn't change the oil for 30k miles. It'll start every time. It'll be easy to repair when she nerfs a wall in the parking garage.

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Old 12-11-2015, 06:13 AM
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Hmmm, I can go either way on this.

Both my daughters used a 10 year old Acura TSX as their first car. Handled well and was very underpowered - so perfect for a new driver. Basically an upscale Honda Civic.

I cannot stress enough that no matter how good a driver your kid is, he/she is good for a 16 year old which is not the same as being good. That Acura was in 4 fender benders over the years. My friend bought his daughter a brand new Jeep Cherokee when she turned 16 and she's been in three accidents (and is not yet 17). Almost every kid I know has gotten into some form of fender bender in the first 2 years of driving, so if it's gonna piss you off to have the side of the BMW scraped, don't get it.

My youngest, now 21, now uses our 2006 X3 that just passed 100k. She goes to school in upstate NY, so snow is an issue. Mileage is horrible, but once she makes the trip to school she probably drives 10 miles a week. Getting her stuff to and from school is easy because she can load her whole dorm room in the X3.

I guess I'd recommend a CR-V or RAV4. Reliable, probably handles okay, and in no way encourages spirited driving. Make sure that whatever you get it's recent enough that it has stability control.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:29 PM
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both my daughters first cars were manual transmission x3's. safety is my top concern, they are safe , handle well , have AWD, perform well in crash tests, and they have better visibility from sitting up a little higher than a car. our repair costs were far less then a car payment for a newer inferior Japanese car.
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Old 12-16-2015, 09:26 PM
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You don't put your kid in a beater, you put them in something safe and you drive the beater. The BMW protects them from the mistakes more likely in the first 5 years of driving.

When you are old, your BMW will be recycled as soylent Green. Your daughter will be the one taking care of you in old age, choose wisely.
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Old 12-17-2015, 01:16 PM
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Old 12-17-2015, 02:17 PM
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I bought my daughter a Yaris, good mpg, grea visibility and surprisingly comfortable. It will last forever and is as reliable as can be. She always wants to borrow the X3, but I know she drives the Yaris at 100%. In the X3 that would be much more worrying. Yaris is the way to go, or the other Japanese equivalent of your choice, IMHO.
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Old 12-18-2015, 03:17 PM
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Any kid not in a beater is spoiled. No kid should be given a car, either, but need to buy one themselves to appreciate hard work and the value of a dollar. JMHO.

17 years later, I still drive the car I drove at 16, a 1986 Olds 442. Just sayin'...
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:18 AM
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Beaters are fine in upstate NY but not in the city. I'm in both places for work ...in Buffalo you don't wait stopped for more than 5 minutes before someone pulls over and fixes your car for you...great town!

...and your kids outlook on life is determined long before cars are in The picture, btw. Did that experiment 6 times and proud of them all.
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Old 12-25-2015, 07:48 AM
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just bought this for my wife seems mint it has 107 km (65000 miles) I need awd Question what should I do maintenance wise with that low of mileage I think this car will last thanks for any help and Merry Christmas
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Old 12-25-2015, 08:35 AM
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just bought this for my wife seems mint it has 107 km (65000 miles) I need awd Question what should I do maintenance wise with that low of mileage I think this car will last thanks for any help and Merry Christmas
I would change the transfer case and transmission oils.

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Old 12-25-2015, 10:59 AM
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Old 12-25-2015, 01:28 PM
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Is this the wrong car for a teenager?
I will offer an opinion contrary to others.

It may not be wrong for a teenager. It could be a car for the teenager to learn on. Learn how to drive. Learn how to maintain a car. If equipped with snow tires, the AWD will make it a formidable machine. Being a little tall, it won't be quite as forgiving as a car.

If the teen has 6 years until finishing college and working for a year, the X3 will be 18 years old by then. It could have many problems by then. Ideally, I would favor a 6 year old car from the family for the teen to learn on. 6-7 years later, the car will still be 12-13 years old. By then, the teen may have learned many lessons and get a new car or a newer car.

On the other hand, a X3 could be a learner car, followed by a replacement in a few years.

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