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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:44 PM
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Steering question

I sort of like regular steering but now I hear the electronic assisted steering will be non-optional.

Does anyone know if it can be turned off?

I had two situations yesterday where I made quick moves with the steering wheel...one at medium speed and one at high speed. You never know what crazy thing other drivers will do.

It becomes instinct after a while. I am concerned that with the new electronic assist, you won't be able to adapt quickly to something (because it makes it so you have to turn more at higher speeds). It could be that when you hit the break it disengages. Maybe it can be turned off or maybe when you get used to it your instincts will make you turn a lot quickly to adjust rather than a little.

Does anyone have any experience with it?

Do you see my points? If you have tried it, how is lane shifting at high speeds?

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Old 10-21-2010, 04:21 PM
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You can turn the steering assist off. It turns off with the rest of the car.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:28 PM
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You can turn the steering assist off. It turns off with the rest of the car.
lol. You got me excited for a half a second. lol

Anyway it must be fine. I'm sure if it was causing accidents we'd hear about it. You'll just need to keep your distance at fast speeds (like we are supposed to do anyway)...but you never know with crazy drivers out there.
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Servotronic is standard on all new X3s. The steering assist system is Electric.

In other markets, there is a cheap option, Variable Steering (2VL) that probably is a different programming of the steering response. With the trend of BMWs lately, I would highly recommend ordering this option.

Thesedays, it seems more like BMW engineers design the car to be more enjoyable with many of the options. The basic stuff just doesn't cut it anymore.

Back on topic, I have never had a problem with BMW steering systems. The Servotronic simply varies assist based on road speed as opposed to engine speed. The Electric Power Steering is exactly that: instead of assist being drawn from the engine, it will be operated by electricity. This reduces fuel consumption and emissions. I know BMW can make a decent system because the 118i I drove years ago in Germany had decent steering, and that one had all the EfficientDynamics equipment including the electric power steering.

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Old 10-21-2010, 09:46 PM
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Servotronic is standard on all new X3s. The steering assist system is Electric.

In other markets, there is a cheap option, Variable Steering (2VL) that probably is a different programming of the steering response. With the trend of BMWs lately, I would highly recommend ordering this option.

Thesedays, it seems more like BMW engineers design the car to be more enjoyable with many of the options. The basic stuff just doesn't cut it anymore.

Back on topic, I have never had a problem with BMW steering systems. The Servotronic simply varies assist based on road speed as opposed to engine speed. The Electric Power Steering is exactly that: instead of assist being drawn from the engine, it will be operated by electricity. This reduces fuel consumption and emissions. I know BMW can make a decent system because the 118i I drove years ago in Germany had decent steering, and that one had all the EfficientDynamics equipment including the electric power steering.
OK Cool. Did you ever have to make quick moves on the highway? Is it a pain to change lanes in heavy traffic(too much steering required?)?
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:11 AM
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OK Cool. Did you ever have to make quick moves on the highway? Is it a pain to change lanes in heavy traffic(too much steering required?)?
Never noticed a rproblem with it.

The steering ratio is what determines how much steering turn is required for a given change in the steering angle. The E83 had a slow steering ratio, 18:1 something like that.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:23 AM
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Electric power steering is actually quite good. I've had it in my RX-8 for five years now and it's never failed me and always been very responsive.
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Electric power steering is actually quite good. I've had it in my RX-8 for five years now and it's never failed me and always been very responsive.
VW and Audi have been using electric power steering for awhile also, with great success....
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:32 PM
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Never noticed a rproblem with it.

The steering ratio is what determines how much steering turn is required for a given change in the steering angle. The E83 had a slow steering ratio, 18:1 something like that.
Cool. Thanks. I guess my concerns were all theoretical...since they said it takes more to turn at higher speeds (I understand the concept of this for fine tuning).

Thanks to the others that have chimed in as well.
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