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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 12-08-2014, 08:47 PM
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Mirror research is hitting a dead end.

Alright, I'm probably looking at it all backwards and sideways, so I'll tell you my problem. I have. 97 528i Auto, with premium package, this may give some info on the mirror type. I don't have auto dimming ones. But they are heated.. Well the passenger side is heated, the driver side is kaput. How to do fix the heaters in the mirrors? I'm only seing DIYs for the glass or entire mirror. I can't even find it one realoem.. Is it not really heated and my passenger just seems to defrost faster?
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:52 PM
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Arrrrrghhhhhh!!!! I am the worst reasearcher in the world!!! Guys.... I found it... The elements are in the glass bit its self.. My glass is 4 on the real OEM diagram. Sorry for wasting your time.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:13 PM
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Buy a convex mirror, instead of the flat one, for the blind spot.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:19 PM
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Why Sir Ed? I've driven with flat mirrors all my life I don't think I want to change it up now.. Do they make ones that just flare out on the outside? That may be ok.
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:27 PM
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Also, sorry for asking this question. But I don't feel like going outside right now. Is there maybe a fuse that may have blown? I don't see how a simple element could just go out.. So maybe the connection is corroded or the fuze has blown.
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Use a multimeter!
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Old 12-09-2014, 07:10 AM
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Use a multimeter!
I lent mine to someone who stepped on it.. He'll never get to use my tools again. But yeah.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:45 AM
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:48 AM
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Motors work which means fuse is good. Element must be bad due to process of elimination
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:06 AM
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Does a convex mirror defrost faster?
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Does a convex mirror defrost faster?
I don't believe so, but a new mirror certainly clears faster than old glass. I got the wide angle mirrors for both sides.
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...35&hg=51&fg=07
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:03 AM
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I found these the other day. One of my mirrors is delaminating so I'm thinking about doing the blind spot mirrors as a replacement. ECS has both types and they even have an instal video! Looks really easy
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E39-540...Mirrors/Glass/
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Old 12-10-2014, 09:33 AM
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I found these the other day. One of my mirrors is delaminating so I'm thinking about doing the blind spot mirrors as a replacement. ECS has both types and they even have an instal video! Looks really easy
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E39-540...Mirrors/Glass/
Its just 4 tabs and a locking ring right?
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I'm not too sure I haven't done it myself but from what I can see in the video it just pops off and disconnect the wires.
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Its just 4 tabs and a locking ring right?
No locking ring on my 05/2003 530i.
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Its just 4 tabs and a locking ring right?
Ditto post above...the only mirrors with a locking ring are the ones that are auto-dimming...and they are obvious because they have a thick black band around the mirror glass...and a small bayonet that you push to the side that you can see/feel along the bottom of the glass:

(bayonet and locking ring on the back side of an EC (auto dimming) side mirror)



(thick black band around the circumference of the EC (auto dimming) mirror)

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Another cause of heating element failure can occur if you have a faulty ambient temp sensor. If your car has had this condition for a long period of time where it displayed -40° ...then it meant that the heating element in the mirrors was on constantly.

The side mirror heating is an automatic function based on ambient temps:

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Old 12-11-2014, 10:09 AM
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My ambient sensor is fine as far as I know. It reads ±4° but never -44 and the passenger side works but has some slight delamination. So I'll be getting me a new set of mirrors. Think I'll get wide angles and try them out.
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Ok quick question, I'm looking at ECS mirrors, the blind spot mirrors say " for vehicles with a production date of 09/97." I've got an 04/97 will they retrofit? Or is my mirror connection some how different?
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I've done the live chat with them a few times now and they usually have answer for me.
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Ok quick question, I'm looking at ECS mirrors, the blind spot mirrors say " for vehicles with a production date of 09/97." I've got an 04/97 will they retrofit? Or is my mirror connection some how different?
Different shaped mirror glass is called for per BMW on early E39s. The early E39 mirror glass shares it's shape with the E36. HERE is a link to the Euro blind spot heated mirrors for early E39s.
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Different shaped mirror glass is called for per BMW on early E39s. The early E39 mirror glass shares it's shape with the E36. HERE is a link to the Euro blind spot heated mirrors for early E39s.
Thanks much! I guess I could have done a PN search though as RealOEM actually has the pn for my mirrors. Mine are most deffinatly squared not D shaped.. Now I won't order the wrong parts!! And while I'm in there I'm probably going to CF wrap my mirror caps see how that turns out. This time I'm gonna try it on a vaccum table.
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why do we need heated mirrors again?

do we drive that fast in reverse that are side mirror's get snowed over?
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why do we need heated mirrors again?

do we drive that fast in reverse that are side mirror's get snowed over?
Just like any glass surface...they can fog over in the right climatic conditions...and having the heated option clears them or keeps them clear. They are not just for snow and ice...again humid conditions can fog them up...also freezing rain can coat them and give them a 3D appearance...which is impossible to view anything with them in that condition...and if you use an ice scraper...you can scratch the coating that some mirrors have...those scratch marks get annoying to look at.


Not sure where you live...but perhaps you don't get conditions like some areas of the world that can make the side mirrors ineffective if it wasn't for the heating element.
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