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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 12-20-2014, 07:53 AM
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Lost of smoke/steam.. No check engine light?

Hey guys rookie owner/mechanic here. But I followed the instruction sets from that pelican website as perfect as possible while I just installed new radiator, hoses, Wp. As well as an oil change with new filter. My temp gauge works as normal as it did before it overheated last month. No check lights. But when I drive I put off and extraordinary amount of white smoke which I think is steam. My obd isn't set to the correct date or time. So I'm assuming my sensors could be reading wrong if the cpu isn't configured right? I havent the slightest where to begin. Thanks ahead of time to all helpers for time and patients.

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Old 12-20-2014, 07:58 AM
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Also I have the TIS bmw installed with VMPlayer on my pc so if you spit numbers this was I'm sure I can decipher them?Click image for larger version

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Annnnnd I want to apologize ahead of time if my etiquette is sloppy,my post lacking facts, or my predicament unclear. this is my first forum post so please forgive me! Thank you again!

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Old 12-20-2014, 08:29 AM
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The date/time on your on board computer does not affect how the car runs at all. It is only info for the driver, so you can tell what time of day it is.

When you say that you are giving off lots of steam, are you talking about from under the hood, or from the tailpipe?
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Old 12-20-2014, 09:21 AM
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Hey guys rookie owner/mechanic here. But I followed the instruction sets from that pelican website as perfect as possible while I just installed new radiator, hoses, Wp. As well as an oil change with new filter. My temp gauge works as normal as it did before it overheated last month. No check lights. But when I drive I put off and extraordinary amount of white smoke which I think is steam. My obd isn't set to the correct date or time. So I'm assuming my sensors could be reading wrong if the cpu isn't configured right? I havent the slightest where to begin. Thanks ahead of time to all helpers for time and patients.
I think he means from the tail pipe, and the clue as to what it is is highlighted above. Those dreaded two words: head gasket. I have a feeling the cooling system refresh was done post-overheat, i.e., too late.
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Old 12-20-2014, 09:37 AM
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Out the tail pipe for sure, I'm sorry for leaving out that important detail. I hope it's not the HG, it's not idling rough and there doesn't seem to be loss of power when I drive? When do drive it next what else can I look for that would confirm the Hg?

And the date and time comment was more towards does it have to be set for me to get diagnostic codes?

Thank you for your patience and sorry for my inexperience
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Old 12-20-2014, 09:39 AM
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Lost of smoke/steam.. No check engine light?

Also no indicator service lights are on and temp gauge works fine ie from blue on a cold start to the vertical pos when warmed

So I guess my question is what are standard tests I can do so I can get some sort of point of reference vs me blinding solve a problem by playing darts blind folded?

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Old 12-20-2014, 09:50 AM
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If you have excessive steam coming from your tailpipe which does not go away, you have a blown head gasket which is likely due to the engine having been overheated in the past. You can confirm this by performing a cylinder compression test, but so far the evidence is pretty conclusive. It's about a $1200 repair. Also, do not continue driving the car with a blown head gasket, even if it seems to run fine. You are mixing water/coolant with the engine's oil, which will destroy the bearings inside the engine. The car needs to be parked until it is fixed.

The date/time will not affect anything related to diagnostic codes, etc.
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Old 12-20-2014, 11:34 AM
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Cool beans, I bought the car for a grand. And I'm assuming your quoting parts plus labor? I'll do some shopping ha So I'll probably do it my self. I like figuring out how things work and I learn best by trial and error. so besides the basics any tips trick advice? Any tools/test kits you'd recommend? Like which one makes your life easier, or handy go to kinda thing if you catch what I'm trying to imply? Orrrr how would you beat prepare for this situation yourself?
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Old 12-20-2014, 12:17 PM
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Yes, the price mentioned above is for parts & labor, and is a ballpark figure. Keep in mind that you'll want to have the head checked for flatness and cracks (the aluminum head can warp or crack when overheated), which may necessitate either machining or replacing it. There are DIY tutorials available online for E36 BMW head gasket replacement, but if you are just getting your feet wet with working on cars, I can't say that I'd recommend starting out with a head gasket replacement. The interest in learning how to work on cars is certainly respectable, but one does not want to perform a head gasket replacement by "trial and error". There's just too much at stake.
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Old 12-20-2014, 01:19 PM
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I just thought about it the initial overheating was about two months ago started with a burst upper hose. So after the first month I switched the radiator checked the water pump which had crusty deposits I cleaned off. But after she still showed high temps too fast but I never let it get to the red or near it again. So then I said eff it and pulled/reseated ch clef for every leak. And found I fudged up the Wp rubber ring. I just grabbed a new pump with seal and used some silicone packet to seat it. And that's when I completely drained the fluids oil and coolant and replaced the oil filter. Only then vapor/smoke/showed up. Would any of that change your opinion?

Either way I just wanna physically see the warpage or damage. What would I look for to pinpoint it? What colors or by what other parts?

I appreciate how informative you've been. Your one stellar individual Thank you for being awesome!
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Old 12-20-2014, 01:26 PM
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Thanks for the concern too, but I've nothing to lose here. This car poorly treated before me and run to hell n back I just grabbed it for an A to B kinda car. When I moved out on my own. But honestly if you knew what knew you'd say whatever other mech tech said "just get rid of it, you'll put more money in then get back" but since I don't have the slightest how to get ride of a broken vehicle I figure it just poke around and gain some knowledge on the way. But worst come to worst I'll just sell the good parts for what they're worth and recycle the rest
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First thing you need to do is download this and start getting familiar with the disassembly of the engine.

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...orums&txt=This
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