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Old 06-23-2011, 04:17 AM
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I think that it not only has to do with the outside temperature but the temp of the car itself. Mine will do it early in the day when it's cool, but after driving the car for awhile the noise will lessen considerably to the point where you can hardly hear it. That's why I've had a hard time replicating the noise for the BMW techs. By the time I drive my car to the dealership it's already warmed up.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:22 AM
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I think that it not only has to do with the outside temperature but the temp of the car itself. Mine will do it early in the day when it's cool, but after driving the car for awhile the noise will lessen considerably to the point where you can hardly hear it. That's why I've had a hard time replicating the noise for the BMW techs. By the time I drive my car to the dealership it's already warmed up.
I had the same behavior. My guess is that it's the temp. of the ars hydraulic oil. Oil viscosity normally changes with temp. and can possibly impact characteristics as the speed with which it flows in the system.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:38 AM
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Thanks to reading that all of you are experiencing the same issue and some have had the issue resolved.. I'm going to be bidding on a Black 550 M-spt tomorrow at auction. 2K miles and was a buyback for this exact issue. Now I'm confident that the car isn't just a bad build.. more of a common problem. Wish me luck.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:48 AM
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Thanks to reading that all of you are experiencing the same issue and some have had the issue resolved.. I'm going to be bidding on a Black 550 M-spt tomorrow at auction. 2K miles and was a buyback for this exact issue. Now I'm confident that the car isn't just a bad build.. more of a common problem. Wish me luck.
If the issue was severe enough that it resulted in a buyback - are you comfortable buying it knowing that the precise cause was never identified - or was it identified? And yes - Good Luck!
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Old 08-10-2011, 01:16 PM
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If the issue was severe enough that it resulted in a buyback - are you comfortable buying it knowing that the precise cause was never identified - or was it identified? And yes - Good Luck!
A friend of mine is selling a 2011 550iX M sport black w about 10K miles for about $58K if you are interested.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:44 PM
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Are you going to reach a point where you add something to the forum besides ranting on the steering?

Not that you don't have a right to voice your opinion, but ever single one of your posts is in some form calling out the steering on the F10. Just saying.
What a pointless remark ...can't you see this is an ultra-serious issue?
I bet if you had it in your bimmer you would be all over it...

my sports 550i also does that with DHP as well
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:36 PM
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Can anyone get the text for SIB 37 01 11 ?

Sounds like that is the bulletin for this issue...
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:47 PM
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Is there a common option in which the issue is present? i.e., DHP ARS Active Steering, etc.

I can't say I have the issue as I passed on most of BMW's electronic wizardry.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:54 PM
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You need to have ARS to be eligible for the issue under discussion...
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Old 11-27-2011, 04:24 PM
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The noise is BAAACK!

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After reviewing the posts it is clear that there are three different sets of issues going on.
a) Loud grinding/vibration that some have said can be heard outside the car too. This appears to be largely reproducible as for Solsctice.
b) A subtle, brief (1-2 seconds) scraping sound that occurs with slow turns not associated with vibration. If I had the radio on, I would not hear it.
c) Occasional sound (I can best describe this as squelching from springs) that comes when the car "bounces" on an uneven road - reminiscent of old time spring shock absorbers.

I have heard c) once and b) a handful of times. The sounds have been difficult to reproduce in my car. The car performs flawlessly otherwise. Maybe the list needs to be drawn up again with folks stating precisely what the problem is. As I have mentioned previously, I do not have DHP.
After a long lack of the noise all summer (or it was so minimal that it did not bother me), the noise b) is now back. Is it possible that this is occurring as the temperatures have dropped or is it a coincidence? If it is the temperature, what is a possible explanation? No ARS in my car.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:58 PM
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I had issues all winter with the "grinding" noise and it mysteriously went away around springtime and now the noise is back so this confirms it is temperature related.

Has anybody heard of the definitive cause of the problem as well as how it is being resolved by BMW?
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Old 11-27-2011, 08:04 PM
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Here is your solution from BMW itself;
http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/attachment...111_Slides.pdf

Go to page 10. Apparently it is the same issue for both 5 series and 7 series, X-Drive or not, and has to do with ARS...
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:12 PM
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Hi, im having the same grinding issue with my 2013 bmw 535i xdrive msport, and it got to the point where after the sound stopped the car lost control during the corner. I took it to Brian Jessel Dealer, now my 8 time going regarding the same issue, I showed them the page 10 from salamigs post, and they said i dont have the ars, so what could it be? Honestly my brand new car with only 13,000 km feels and sounds like a piece of garbage. This is my first time switching over from a mercedes and am completely dissatisfied with the service and quality of the car. Should i phone bmw canada customer service and tell them of my issues? I really think this grinding noise is very unsafe, as i had lost control of the car when turning. Please help me, as i am stuck with this horrid car as i would lose a great deal of money replacing this car with another car. Thank you for your help.

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Old 01-18-2015, 12:15 PM
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The grinding on my car was finally solved by replacing the valve block in 2012 and it has been flawless since. I still have the car now with 60,000iles on it and I can confirm the problem was fully resolved.

Without reading through the entire thread, I'm not sure the problem you have is the same as what I experienced however. I only ever had a noise. The steering never felt unsafe or anything like that. You may have a steering rack problem maybe?
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Old 07-10-2015, 10:22 AM
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Unhappy Steering Noise with Grinding Sensation

I have the noise in my 535i of 2014 (bought new). But unfortunately it makes the noise when it is hot and at very low speeds. The technician was able to reproduce it once but has not been able to for the last four days while it is sitting in the shop. The service Manager says that he cannot do anything unless he is able to exactly identify the point. It is definitely not from the steering because it is heard only when the brake is lightly pressed and the car moves at 2 to 4 miles per hour speed. I am at a loss.
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Old 07-10-2015, 10:16 PM
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Hey guys, I was finally able to get the grinding noise fixed after repeated trips to the dealer and at then end told them the issue almost put me in danger. Will post the repairs once I get home to help people
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Old 07-10-2015, 11:11 PM
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Steering noise with grinding sensation.

Do anybody now where I can get the software update? Would like to se if I can do the update my self.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:17 AM
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Hey guys, I was finally able to get the grinding noise fixed after repeated trips to the dealer and at then end told them the issue almost put me in danger. Will post the repairs once I get home to help people
What was the issue? My car is at the dealership for the second week in a row. It makes the noise only when it is hot and when it is driven for a while. And also when the brake is pressed lightly. Is it in my mind or is it really happening- I do not know.
Kris
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