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Old 08-28-2014, 05:24 PM
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Damage on Carfax Report

I'm seriously looking at buying a 2012 750i xDrive from a BMW dealer. It's a CPO with low miles and a fair price. Everything checks out on the Carfax except there's been damage from a crash reported. No airbag deployment or anything else. The dealer said it was a minor crash as the car pulled out of a parking lot. New front bumper, repairs to both front fenders and hood.

Should I run away and not look back? I'm not in the same state as the car so I can't look for it, but this car is at a pretty big dealership with pretty good reviews. The color combo of the car is what we want and it's pretty hard to find. Is damage listed on Carfax a deal breaker for most of you all?
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:36 PM
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The issue I have with CarFax is that everything has to be reported to them voluntarily. Any frame damage? The Fact that it is a CPO is a good thing, but I would request a report of what was done at the dealer as well. My gut is to pass on this one.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:38 PM
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Dealer claims no frame damage. New front bumper and repairs to fenders and hood. No airbag deployments per Carfax.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:44 PM
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Could be 'minor' bodywork ... even a parking lot "tap" on a BMW could run $3000-$5000 with only minor superficial body damage that has no detrimental effect on the car or its critical systems. Heck, a few years back I had some acorn dings on my '07 530xi that PDR took care of but SOMEHOW one of my Xenons died while it was in their shop. The $200 paintless dent repair job turned into a $3000 repair - fortunately not on my dime since the headlights were replaced under warranty!

Most shops keep pictures of the before and after -- ask for them. And, once again, if you can get the actual repair order (ask for it - or tell them it's a deal -killer) to see what was actually done. Then decide.
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Old 08-28-2014, 06:20 PM
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Good advice guys, thanks. I can get the name of the body shop tomorrow and hit them up. The crash was in 2012 so I'm guessing they still have record of it.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:09 PM
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"New front bumper, repairs to both front fenders and hood."

Sounds pretty major to me. How much is the car listed for? There are hundreds of 7-series out there. Why do you want this particular one with front end damage?
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:20 PM
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I should clarify, the repairs to the fender were "paint blending" the salesman said. The hood had a dent that was repaired and painted, but the bumper cover was replaced.
If anyone knows of a black (not Carbon) over saddle 750i with M Sport xDrive vent'd seats cold weather 20" wheels I'd love to hear from you. Low miles and fair price also. I've been looking for months and am not seeing many.
I know I'm being really specific.


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Old 08-28-2014, 10:37 PM
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I should clarify, the repairs to the fender were "paint blending" the salesman said. The hood had a dent that was repaired and painted, but the bumper cover was replaced.
If anyone knows of a black (not Carbon) over saddle 750i with M Sport xDrive vent'd seats cold weather 20" wheels I'd love to hear from you. Low miles and fair price also. I've been looking for months and am not seeing many.
I know I'm being really specific.


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There is a bunch of black BMW for sale in the 2013 models. Go with a 2013 which as a lot more updates to the technology. If I were you, I would move on unless you are getting a super deal.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:22 PM
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My last 7 was in a significant accident that involved frame damage and required over a month of repairs, but there was no airbag deployment nor anything recorded on carfax - and it was done at a bmw collision center. I'd skip over this one. The dealer's word isn't worth it's weight in dog ****.
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:24 AM
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Unless the car is an absolute steal, I would look at a 13'.

If you absolutely have to have this car, like it has already been mentioned, request pictures and maybe have an indy look at it.

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Old 08-29-2014, 09:23 AM
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It's got a fair price on it I think. I'd love to pick up a '13, but the price difference is just too much. It's not in the budget right now.


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Old 08-29-2014, 11:04 AM
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The issue I have with CarFax is that everything has to be reported to them voluntarily. Any frame damage? The Fact that it is a CPO is a good thing, but I would request a report of what was done at the dealer as well. My gut is to pass on this one.
Same here, I had a car with $12K in damage and about a year later was also stolen yet recovered...went through insurance/DMV/police...carfax was clean.
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:32 PM
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How much is it listed for?
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:54 PM
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:56 PM
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I don't think this car should even be a CPO - I was told by the BMW dealership that if paintwork was required on more than 1 body panel that it was ineligble to be certified. I'd pass just because it will be a major hassle when you are ready to sell/trade.
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:58 PM
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SA there told me up to three panels could be painted and still be a CPO. No structural or frame damage is allowed. I'm going to check with my local dealer and see what he says.


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Old 08-29-2014, 01:09 PM
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Go on autotrader.com, search for a '12-'13 7-series, put in your zip code, set the radius to 500 miles, and you'll see tons of cars. Is the 740 or the long wheel base Li out of the question?

See if this link works: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=2012&Log=0

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Old 08-29-2014, 01:11 PM
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740 is no go, but long wheelbase is great. I'm out west and need xDrive. I've checked cars.com, aurotrader, and bmwusa.com. Can't afford a 2013.


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Old 08-29-2014, 06:43 PM
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Have it checked out by a third party. Check frame but I doubt it would have any frame damage it would of probably been totaled. A minor "fender bender" on these cars is easily 5000+. drive the car, if it drives good and isnt leaking oil all over the place and its what you really want get it. The car fax might hurt resale value a little bit but hey these cars lose value everyday.

I just bought a 2012 , 52k+ttl. car fax and auto check showed clean and the car was CPO. When I went to my insurance agent and he ran the vin it showed that there was a claim on the car for $5000. I put the car on a lift checked everything, everything was good doesnt look like anything happened to the car at all.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:49 PM
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An uber loaded 13' will be in the mid 60s. There is so many xdrive for sale, I thought people are just getting rid of it for some reasons..
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Old 08-30-2014, 09:38 AM
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I would wait to find a vehicle with a less questionable history. Does not look like that vehicle is discounted enough compared to "clean" cars to reflect the risk.


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Old 08-30-2014, 05:45 PM
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My friend,

Unless you buy a brand new car that you know there is no history in it and no defects (sometimes even brand new cars can be defectives), you should not rely only in the CarFax it is there solely to help you know what the car has been through as long as the first owner voluntarily disclosed or if there was insurance, police, etc involved. If you can't find the one you were looking for then go for it, make sure you get the car inspected before you buy it and sometimes the dealer can have the car shipped to another BMW dealer in your area. There are people that drive cars with a super clean carfax but the car has been involved in a freaking wreck and they don't even know, some unscrupulous people get into accidents were there is no insurance filed and fix the car with out-of-pocket money and then sell it like nothing ever happened. If it shows no airbags were deployed and maybe no frame damage then might be true and might also be a good buy despite of the damage. But if it is too questionable for you and you can't go to sleep with the buying decision then my friend do not buy it. Simple as that...

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