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7 Series - F01 / F02 (2009 - 2015)
The 5th generation F01/F02 BMW 7 Series flagship forum. The redesigned 7 series leads off the BMW Fxx chassis code, offering an 8 speed automatic transmission and all turbocharged engine options.

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Old 07-28-2015, 01:05 PM
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What Failed in your 7er

What components, specifically, failed in your 7er either under or out of warranty? Not all extended warranty are created equally. What typically fails, major components, minor components, or minor components that is part of the major components? I suspect that extended warranty companies will not cover minor components that make the major components work properly.

For example, Steering. They cover manual or power, and list all the parts they cover. But if your car has ARS those components not listed, is it covered or not covered?

I know it sounds vague, but so are the extended warranty companies.

After reading the contracts, I am left wondering, "Do they cover parts not listed but also not excluded?"
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:21 PM
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I'm going to say that; aftermarket warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on.


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Old 07-28-2015, 03:19 PM
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I'm going to say that; aftermarket warranties aren't worth the paper they are written on.


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I disagree. I paid 6k for my full bumper to bumper, exclusion warranty (pretty much everything but brake pads/rotors). To this day, they have replaced 2400 in parts, and that was are just 2 rims and 1 tire. The car itself has been solid though, but if they already paid out over 1/3 in tires and rims alone, I have no doubt they would cover the rest.
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I agree with aom, my extended warranty (non-BMW) that I paid $4200 for has paid out on my claims with no issues. My only major issues have been an axle issue, a fuel injector/spark plug problem and then another fuel injector issue. all in all, not too upset with this car. Love it actually. Best BMW I've had by far. My e65 had many more problems.
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:17 PM
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Drivetrain malfunction (injectors) - twice
Brakes warped
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Sunroof squeaky (replaced)
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Bumper trim loose
2 bubbles on tires (20" wheels)
Washer fluid bottle leak
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guess I'm lucky or the 2011s were more solid than the other years. I'm telling you, best BMW I've owned.
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:19 PM
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I disagree. I paid 6k for my full bumper to bumper, exclusion warranty (pretty much everything but brake pads/rotors). To this day, they have replaced 2400 in parts, and that was are just 2 rims and 1 tire. The car itself has been solid though, but if they already paid out over 1/3 in tires and rims alone, I have no doubt they would cover the rest.

Plus1 had great results with after market. Too bad company that covered my E92 doesn't cover my F02
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My transmission has fail. Bmw replaced under CPO
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:28 PM
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70k so far. Except the customer care package I have not had to do anything... yet. Hoping it will stay this way, I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:19 AM
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I gather that the F01/F02 (aside from the drivetrain/injector issues that are covered by CPO) is quite reliable in the terms of no major component break down. The break downs appear to be tire/rim and some minor (not in the sense of low cost) components that a general extended warranty would not covered.

It seems that when we buy extended warranty, we are playing with statistics that we have limited knowledge over (compared to the extended warranty companies). I suspect that we pay for some of that "peace of mind."

From a personal experience which I acknowledge is not conclusive of all warranty and car reliability matrix, I bought a 05 545i new, and purchase an extended warranty for about $2800. I used $300 of that warranty. Supposed I had bought a $5000 policy (complete coverage) which would have taken my car to 85K miles. I totaled all the bills I paid up to 85K miles, and it was around $3300 excluding components that would not be covered (wear/tear). In hindsight, the cost of the risk was $1700.

As for the 7er, isolating the outliners such as lemons and garage queens, suppose I purchase a complete coverage extended warranty for $6K. Given that BMW is covering the expensive repairs under CPO, and that the car does not get into an accident, plus a few other assumptions searching for break downs on this forum, my hunch (not conclusions) is that the 7er (F01/F02), in worst case, breaks even when buying a complete coverage extended warranty.

There are many more factors that come into play when purchasing extended warranties, and I haven't even scratched the surface.

One thing that is certain. An Extended Warranty will give you a "peace of mind" feeling because you pay for it upfront. Just like stepping into a casino, the house makes the rules, and they always win in aggregate.
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Old 07-29-2015, 04:26 PM
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the following failed in my bnew 740Li acquired in 2009 which covered only 20,000kms from date of delivery

Front Active Stabilizer Bar
Valve Block
Both Turbos
Alternator
Transmission Assembly
HPFP
Idler Pulley
Control Arm Bushings

Total warranty bill was around US$25k++
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Old 07-29-2015, 05:40 PM
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If only BMW would stop using inadequate materials they do in our cars: the wood trimming in my car is already covered with swirl marks and that's with my being careful - I gather most got on there from actually cleaning and dusting off.

My 2014 F02 has been great, if a little boring.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:48 PM
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Bruno, you bring up an interesting point about repairs under warranty. After the fixes, did you keep the car long enough to see if those same parts, related, or other parts break down. I hesitate to classify it as a lemon, but that is a lot of broken parts for 20km on the odo.

My front steering motor was "clicking' and it was replaced. My passenger LED headlights died and was replaced. They have attempted to fixed my Frontal Collision Warning error that comes on/off intermittently, and the car consumes oil every 2k miles. I do drive aggressive and regular visits to triple digit. All have been fixed under warranty.

Elan, I think BMW does use quality parts in line with other luxury manufacturers. However, I think it is the "engineering" that makes degree of reliable more so than the quality of parts used. If you look at the aftermarket parts compared to OEM, OEM parts are almost always better quality.
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Old 07-30-2015, 05:16 AM
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elan, if you think the car is boring, my guess is you don't have a PedalBox - get one!!!!!! Seriously, takes away almost all of any turbo lag. Car shoots off the line. If it's boring for other reasons, can't help ya there...
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:14 AM
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Also, do you have the ARS and IAS on your F02? These two driving nannies, while it won't make it a GTR like ride by now stretch, will give you more fun when you utilize all 445 HP. The nannies can only do so much for a 4700 heavy weight. I think these options are call the Autobahn Package in the new 7Ger.
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It is a big heavy comfortable barge. Yes, it is boring to drive. Yes, it is relaxing and pleasant to drive, great place to be in to and from work or traveling. That's why we drive it.
For fun one plays with sports cars, or sport bikes, or flies airplanes, or horse riding or something along those lines.
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One trip to the dealership and my aftermarket warranty paid for half of itself. My starter was grinding and my window wash pump was inop.
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