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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 11-08-2010, 02:32 PM
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Anyone regret their 35d diesel purchase

Just ordered a new 35d today. I've never owned a Diesel before and am still a little nervous. I drove one a few months ago, but had to place the order without test driving another one since the dealer didn't have any on the lot. Just wondering if anyone who purchased one has had any regrets...
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:50 PM
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Doubt you'll garner any public admissions of regret, considering the $$ most of us shell out for these things. That said, we have none, and that comes within context of not even a test drive. Lucky or foolish, probably both on our part!
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:51 PM
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Thanks, Sea Doom. So, was it a big adjustment to Diesel?
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:53 PM
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I love my X5 35D. It is my first diesel.

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Old 11-08-2010, 03:04 PM
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Love the diesel.

Family owned a 1972 MB 220D, a diesel VW rabbit... I currently own a diesel tractor and a Ford F250 powerstroke diesel 4x4 - along witht he 2010 35d.

I also drive diesels on occasion when I rent cars in europe for business.

So not diesel-phobic ..

The 35d is the most driveable diesel I've ever driven, including an audi A5 turbo diesel. But then again I like em all, and for fun I have other stuff

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Old 11-08-2010, 03:10 PM
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Thanks, Sea Doom. So, was it a big adjustment to Diesel?
Apparently not! First diesel, first SUV, first 4X4, and none the worst for firsts. Was GREAT in the snow during the "East Kansas Christmas Blizzard of '09" with just the stock Michelin RFTs. And that was a big ask for a couple of beach sand bums from snow-less SoSoCal.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:37 PM
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Love the diesel.

Family owned a 1972 MB 220D, a diesel VW rabbit... I currently own a diesel tractor and a Ford F250 powerstroke diesel 4x4 - along witht he 2010 35d.

I also drive diesels on occasion when I rent cars in europe for business.

So not diesel-phobic ..

The 35d is the most driveable diesel I've ever driven, including an audi A5 turbo diesel. But then again I like em all, and for fun I have other stuff

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I have a similar history with diesels. My parents owned a 1977 MB 300CD (non-turbo) and a 1985 300SD, and I have a 2003 GMC Sierra 2500HD with the Duramax/Allison powertrain. I've driven a few rental-car diesels in Europe, and after several test-drives of the X5 35d and 35i, I ordered the diesel. It looks like it will be here sometime next week, and I'm looking forward to it!

Up until a couple of weeks ago my daily driver was an e92 335i, which was traded on the day I ordered the X5. I've been driving the GMC daily on my commute, and while it's not bad for a heavy-duty pickup, it's still a pickup. It's been "chipped" with a tuneable module and I'm currently running it at around 370 HP and 700+ ft-lbs., which means it will move along nicely even though it weighs over 6000 lbs. I think that the X5 35d may be quicker, and I know that it will be a much more pleasant overall experience.

No regrets on my order, and I don't expect to have many, if any. After my 335i experience I suspect that the X5 will seem relatively trouble free...
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:02 PM
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We've had our first diesel, an X5 35d, for two weeks now and love it. We're getting about 19 mpg in pure street driving, about 27 on the highway at a steady 75, which probably will improve as it breaks in (less than 300 miles on it). It puts our old 3.0i X5 to shame in the acceleration department and the gas mileage department.

The only issue for me is the result of living in Illinois. Because of state tax credits, biodiesel is big here, and most of the diesel pumps near me are labeled with a sticker that says "contains 5-20% biodiesel," which is a problem since BMW says no more than 7% biodiesel should go in the tank. Fortunately, our local Meijer stations still sell pure petrodiesel (at the same price as the bio), so for now all is well. I understand that my fuel issue is peculiar to Illinois, though Minnesota apparently has a state mandate for 5% biodiesel (which is fine) and so does Pennsylvania. In Illinois, the tax credit only kicks in for >10% bio, so that apparently is why most of the stations here are selling B11 (11% bio) and marking the pumps 5-20% (so they can sell whatever comes off the truck). That means I can't really use one of these pumps, because I don't know if I'm getting B5 (which would be fine) or more than B5 (which BMW frowns upon).

The funny thing is that my dealer filled the car up at a pump marked 5-20% bio before delivery. Guess they hadn't read the owners' manual . . .

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Old 11-08-2010, 04:16 PM
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Thanks everyone. Starting to feel good about the order.

I've started reading the threads a bit more since making the order, and it sounds like the couple issues are making sure to get the right diesel (other than no more than 7% biodiesel, any other specs to look for) and possible cold weather issues if you don't have winter diesel at the pumps. I guess it's less plug-n-play than regular gas, but any other issues I should be aware of?
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:43 PM
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I've loved it so far - we get literally the exact same MPG as our 2007 530i under the exact same driving conditions (21.5 mpg average over 2000 miles). I consider that fairly amazing - I'm a lead foot, to keep the MPG the same while upgrading to an AWD SUV that's got at least an extra 1000 pounds is quite impressive. The acceleration power is about the same as well.

This was our first diesel. 3000+ miles and still very happy with the decision. The only thing I dislike is the sporty suspension on the X5 due to some local roads that are abysmal, but that's the tradeoff you get with just about any BMW.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:56 PM
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First diesel, 5000 miles in 3.5 months... Was there adjustment - absolutely! It is called more miles per tank and less frequent fill ups Took me a while to get used to an idea of fill ups 1.5 weeks apart ... Used to own 08 X5 4.8 prior to this, had to see the pump every 4 days! On the same daily commute, used to get 14.5 mpg, now getting 21.2... Can you adjust to that ?
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:58 PM
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I've had mine for 3 weeks and no regrets at all. I was worried too about finding the right type of diesel, stations, etc,, but its not that big of a deal. I did have some guy run out from the station yelling that I was using a diesel pump. That was great.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:44 PM
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I've had mine for 3 weeks and no regrets at all. I was worried too about finding the right type of diesel, stations, etc,, but its not that big of a deal. I did have some guy run out from the station yelling that I was using a diesel pump. That was great.
+1, similar experience once filling my dad's X5. "Are you sure your BMW takes diesel?"
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:09 PM
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No regrets but it's only been 210 miles. I'll let you know after I tow to Alabama and back this weekend.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:30 PM
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Picked-up my 2011 X5D on 8/13/10. I absolutely am enthralled with this vehicle. Now have 6,000 miles with no probelms nor regrets.

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Old 11-08-2010, 11:30 PM
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I was convinced I would never, ever own a diesel. Then my dealer gave me a 2010 X5 35D loaner while my M3 was in the shop. Took me a couple days to admit it, but that "extended test drive" sealed the deal. 550 miles on a tank - what's not to like?

The only challenge is finding diesel fuel, as unlike premium unleaded it is not ubiquitous. I have programmed one of my memory buttons to search for diesel stations at location, and find myself topping off when the tank is 1/4 empty; in the M3 and our gas X5, I have no qualms about getting to under 20 miles to go on the display.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:31 PM
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We have a 35d and a ML Bluetec. Diesel is the way to go in an SUV. At least NA is finally catching on...lol.

I would be concerned about diesel/adblue in the winter. We haven't been through a full winter yet in the X5, but our ML's Adblue pump/tank froze last winter when we got to -30 and had to be replaced.
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:03 AM
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Great feedback, folks. Thanks so much. After reading everything I can, I guess my biggest concern right now is whether the car "fits" my driving. Everything I read in the abstract says the diesels don't do well until they're warmed up. What exactly does that mean? Is it a problem if the car serves as a errand machine on the weekends? My daily commute is 45-60 minutes, so that shouldn't be a problem, but weekends can be a lot of starts and stops. Problem?
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:09 AM
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I would be concerned about diesel/adblue in the winter. We haven't been through a full winter yet in the X5, but our ML's Adblue pump/tank froze last winter when we got to -30 and had to be replaced.
I think one of the resevoirs in the 35d is passively heated so that it does not freeze. It's been a while since I looked at the diesel marketing, but that's what I recall.
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Old 11-09-2010, 08:29 AM
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I think one of the resevoirs in the 35d is passively heated so that it does not freeze. It's been a while since I looked at the diesel marketing, but that's what I recall.
Actually, the reservoir in the right fender area is actively heated.

"To introduce SCR technology in the vehicle, BMW has developed a two-tank system ensuring convenient use of this new technology with all the benefits and ease required by the customer. The amount of Diesel Exhaust Fluid required in each case is injected from the active tank (approximately 1.6 gallons in volume) by means of a dosage pump. Since the DEF would freeze at a temperature of 12oF this active tank, as well as the dosage pipes are heated.
The active tank is connected to a second reservoir, referred to as the passive tank. With its additional capacity of approximately 4.5 gallons, this passive tank offers a plentiful supply of the DEF. "
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:15 AM
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There have been a couple of threads on DEF needing refilling and issues with BMW covering it, enough to put me off. I think the 35d drives very well, but all things considered (even with the eco and tax credits) the 35i makes more sense to me - fewer things to go wrong.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:23 AM
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This was not only the 1st diesel for me, but the first SUV/SAV period. For me, the sheer bulk of the X5 did take some getting used to. However, the power, drive comfort, and handling have been excellent. The only thing I would have done differently is the wheels. I would have stayed with 19" instead of 20". Not that the 20"s are bad by any means. IMHO, they look fantastic but I prefer a tad smoother ride on uneven roads.

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Old 11-09-2010, 09:48 AM
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First diesel, 5000 miles in 3.5 months... Was there adjustment - absolutely! It is called more miles per tank and less frequent fill ups Took me a while to get used to an idea of fill ups 1.5 weeks apart ... Used to own 08 X5 4.8 prior to this, had to see the pump every 4 days! On the same daily commute, used to get 14.5 mpg, now getting 21.2... Can you adjust to that ?
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:49 AM
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There have been a couple of threads on DEF needing refilling and issues with BMW covering it, enough to put me off. I think the 35d drives very well, but all things considered (even with the eco and tax credits) the 35i makes more sense to me - fewer things to go wrong.
This is sort of my worry, but the deals on the 35d are pretty amazing right now. Hard to pass up...just worried I'll regret it. But it sounds like folks are really enjoying it.
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Just ordered a new 35d today. I've never owned a Diesel before and am still a little nervous. I drove one a few months ago, but had to place the order without test driving another one since the dealer didn't have any on the lot. Just wondering if anyone who purchased one has had any regrets...
If you have any gripes with the 35d just think of the gas bills you're avoiding!

Mileage never concerned me before. But it bothers me that it cost over $20.00 a day for my wife to putz around town in our 4.8 from the grocery store to the dry cleaners...! No performance involved, just in town low rpm chugging. Exactly what the diesel does best. I lease, and its going to be tough passing on a twin turbo 5.0 since the lease is almost the same for a 35d! But I cannot stomach $70+ fillups every 3 days...

Next SUV will be either X5 diesel or Cayenne S Hybrid (very expen$ive to lease though).

Good luck, I'm sure you'll love it. I drove one briefly and really liked it. Diesel has massive and effortless torque. That combined with the knowledge that diesel engines far outlast gas engines sort of makes the 35d a workhorse relaible member of the family, as opposed to an indulgent purchase. IMHO at least.

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