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Old 01-09-2004, 05:57 PM
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Mein Auto: S54 M Coupe x2, M52 Z3
New fog light kit for M Coupe/Roadster

Hey everyone...

Just to give you a bit of an update. I have taken it apon myself to create a fog light kit for the M coupe/M Roadster. I was going to copy the ACS kit, but that could be very dangerous legally. So, I have decided to create an entire new kit!

I have ordered a BMW factory kit, and I will be using the harness etc for reference. Plan is to continue to use the factory fog single or dual button. Also, quality will be equal or better than the factory kit.

I have a design done in AutoCad, and will be taking it to the shop to create a prototype. The general idea is to use Hella fogs, and to have them in a cutom fit housings in the brake ducts similar in location to the ACS kit. It should be a simple do it yourself installation. I am considering a double sided tape application with hardware support. I do not like the idea of drilling into the painted areas of my car, but may do so if it is the best solution.

Cost is expected to be at or below $300. If there is any interest, please let me know. b@bmwmpire.com.

I will update everyone when I have a working prototype.

Contact me if you have any questions. Current development estimates are around $2000, so I need at least 3 people interested to make this cost effective to just purchasing the ACS kit.

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Old 01-09-2004, 07:48 PM
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I applaud your ambition

Personally, I've never been a fan of fog lights. Seems that most people (at least here in Ohio and when I lived in Louisiana) feel they must be on all the time...

I might be interested though, if Hella makes a "pencil beam" driving lamp that fits in your same housing. Can you check this with your source(s)?

Frankly, it has been so long since I've looked into adding driving lights (typically 5000-6000 foot range) that I don't even know if they're still available (or legal).

They're a big advantage when touring country roads (at night, naturally) as you won't be out-driving your headlights.

I'll tell you this though, when an oncoming car doesn't dim their highbeams when you flash your brights at them, they sure as hell will when you flash a pair of driving lamps!
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Old 01-10-2004, 07:48 AM
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when I'm driving and have difficulty seeing, for whatever reason, I have the ACS white fogs ON + PIAA Driving ON + HID High beams and I hold the stalk so the HID low beams are ON also.

I just picked up one of those 1 Million candlepower handhelds so I could roll the windown down, stick the light outside and point it with my left hand!

Thinking those military phosphorus flare guns might be a good addition too.

I like seeing at night. If you have trouble seeing when I'm coming your way turn around and follow me!


( I do start turning things off If I see you will be in my line of fire for a while)
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Old 01-10-2004, 01:34 PM
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I just picked up one of those 1 Million candlepower handhelds so I could roll the windown down, stick the light outside and point it with my left hand!
LOL! I had to do this when wrecking my the front end of my first car, a '90 dodge shadow. My friends referred to it as my "white-trash" headlight!
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:39 AM
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You should buy this kit to study how BMW does it.

Might be able to get it for a good price too.
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:54 AM
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I have a new kit ordered. Ordered it with my car cover.

But I might as well bid on this one too.

How much are they? I think it was like 200 bucks or so.

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Old 01-12-2004, 09:31 AM
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I have a new kit ordered. Ordered it with my car cover.

But I might as well bid on this one too.

How much are they? I think it was like 200 bucks or so.

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I guess I will bid on them since I have none on order. Hope they don't go too high.
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Old 01-12-2004, 10:07 AM
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They dont appear to be a complete kit. I dont see those goofy looking triangles.

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Old 01-12-2004, 06:25 PM
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They dont appear to be a complete kit. I dont see those goofy looking triangles.

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You aren't serious, I hope.

The OEM factory fog light kit (P/N 63 17 0 008 734) contains a hell of a lot more parts then the lights and the "goofy triangles."

In fact, it includes a new headlight switch wired for the new fog lights switch on the dash, and a interior and exterior wiring harness assembly. All together, a pretty complete kit.

If you're going to make a kit that isn't a sloppy PEP BOYS install, I'd suggest sticking with the factory design. It's unfortunate that the actual fog light brackets look so "goofy," but that's where your design should focus on.

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Old 01-12-2004, 07:02 PM
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You aren't serious, I hope.

The OEM factory fog light kit (P/N 63 17 0 008 734) contains a hell of a lot more parts then the lights and the "goofy triangles."

In fact, it includes a new headlight switch wired for the new fog lights switch on the dash, and a interior and exterior wiring harness assembly. All together, a pretty complete kit.

If you're going to make a kit that isn't a sloppy PEP BOYS install, I'd suggest sticking with the factory design. It's unfortunate that the actual fog light brackets look so "goofy," but that's where your design should focus on.

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Dean,

You have my word that it will be every bit as good as the BMW factory kit, and it will INCLUDE the FACTORY FOG LIGHT SWITCH. So it will look professional 100%.

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Old 01-12-2004, 09:33 PM
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Dean,

You have my word that it will be every bit as good as the BMW factory kit, and it will INCLUDE the FACTORY FOG LIGHT SWITCH. So it will look professional 100%.

Mpire
Just to throw out an idea here: you could take the factory kit and just add 2 ready-to-paint fairings that can accept the factory lights. Then no electrical liability on your part. The factory kit uses Hella Dynamic Energy lights, which are very nice units. I had the same ones on my VR6.
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