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Old 12-15-2013, 05:05 PM
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Life expectancy of a 335D battery?

For theose who own 335D, how long are your original batteries lasting? My 335D was purchased on October 2011, is driven daily, and currently has 25,000+ miles and resides at night in a garage that maybe gets to 45 at night with outdoor temps at 25. Just recently, morning starts are sounding a little weak. After driving around a good 45 minutes or even longer with the car off and listening to the radio less than the length of one song (while the SO is doing her shopping) the low battery indicator comes on and the interior shuts off. A subsequent start sounds stronger than the first one of the morning. It is due for service in 1000 miles and will certainly let the Stealership know, but in the meantime I was looking for input from the owners on how long their batteries are lasting.
Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-15-2013, 06:14 PM
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My car is a 2009 with roughly the same mileage as yours with its original battery and no issues.
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Old 12-15-2013, 07:45 PM
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GreekboyD:
Thanks for the feedback. If Toronto can get 4 years out of a battery, I was hoping sunny Kalifornia can get more than 2 years out of one. My Z06(with lots of battery draining electronics) battery lasted almost 8 years and it sat in the garage way more than the D did.

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Old 12-15-2013, 08:32 PM
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My car was born in Munich April 2009, adopted by me on Monterey California in May 2009. Has been in sunny California for all of its 104k miles. I have two amps (sub 400 watts, 4-channel 500 watts) direct wired to the battery.

Sometimes within a half an hour of starting the car my radio will go dead and then come back again. I know it is the radio because I bleed the audio signal for the amps off the rear channel coming from the stock radio. I moved the front channel with all the gongs and cell phone audio to the rear channel which continues to use the stock amp. So, when the audio goes dead, ALL of it goes dead, even the back speakers which use the stock amplifier. So I know my battery is not in its prime. But I have never had a problem starting the car.

If I run the car for a while in accessory mode (pressing the start button without my foot on the brake) I get a low battery warning pretty soon. But it has been like that for at least 40k miles.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:52 PM
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it is the accessory mode that this all started. It used to be that I can run it until it times out and it shuts off. Now in accessory mode, it lasts about 3 minutes and the battery indicator +/- in the dash comes on, car dings, and then within 30 seconds everything shuts off. I can restart the car without issue and it doesnt sound weak. I guess when it goes in for service, we will see what the crack BMW mechanics have to say(probably: can not replicate the problem).
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:13 PM
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quasimodem:
it is the accessory mode that this all started. It used to be that I can run it until it times out and it shuts off. Now in accessory mode, it lasts about 3 minutes and the battery indicator +/- in the dash comes on, car dings, and then within 30 seconds everything shuts off. I can restart the car without issue and it doesnt sound weak. I guess when it goes in for service, we will see what the crack BMW mechanics have to say(probably: can not replicate the problem).
chetah45
Sure sounds like your battery. Sorry it didn't last long, but the wrenches at BMW should be able to load test it and it is still under warranty, so you are good. If they don't replace it, take it to an independent (even local autoparts stores should work) to have them test it and tell you whether it is good.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:36 AM
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I got my 2010 in Nov 2009, so just over 4 years, 65k, and original battery still going strong.

Batteries can be fickle, some lasting forever it seems, other petering out early on.

Best advise is just swing by one of those chain auto stores and have them test it for free. Battery is in the trunk by the way!

If you need a new one, get one and forget about it. Be sure they date stamp it as it should come with a warranty that is based on lifetime from date stamp, which is when it is installed.

Go with a good quality battery.
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Old 12-16-2013, 04:06 PM
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Life expectancy of a 335D battery?

5/2011 build. Currently at 32K miles. The low battery light started coming on last summer here in TX around 28K. Had the dealership recharge and check it in August. They replaced it last month under warranty. I had the same symptoms you did.


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Old 12-17-2013, 06:14 PM
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for my d - 59k miles and 3.5 years = dead battery. Had dealer replace it. Probably too expensive at $400, but battery at AZ was $180 and didn't have tools to properly vent battery conduits and "register" battery.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:40 PM
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My 2011 335d, which was purchased in July 2010, has 24K miles and its original battery with no issues.
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:11 AM
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Of our two garage mates, the 2011 335d seems to be doing better than the 2012 Forester, both bought within 5 days of each other in May 2012. I recently purchased a CTEK US 7002 battery tender. Haven't tried it out yet. Might experiment on my wife's Forester first, since she is the one doing most of the short stop and go trips.
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:46 AM
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Cool Life expectancy of a 335D battery

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For theose who own 335D, how long are your original batteries lasting? My 335D was purchased on October 2011, is driven daily, and currently has 25,000+ miles and resides at night in a garage that maybe gets to 45 at night with outdoor temps at 25. <snip>
Thanks in advance.
Chetah45
I have been experiencing similar symptoms with my DERV. I parked my 2011 335D, listening to an NPR story and after 2-3 minutes the radio shut off, at the same time the speakers crackled, the vacuum pot bled off and that was it. The next morning the temps got down to -9F and it was sluggish starting. I made an appointment to have the car looked at. They performed a load test and the battery appeared to be fine.

However, based on the capacity calculations, they elected to replace the battery under "goodwill" and provided a battery tender almost like the one for my BMW GS Adventure, free of charge. She made it clear that BMW frowns on covering battery replacements, citing driver habit as the fault. Then she went on to write up the warranty anyway!

The final diagnosis? The car's computers compile data on your driving habits (a profile). Those 1.5 mile drives every morning make a profile less flattering than i would car to admit. There is a lot of noise going on under the dash and hood of your DERV, the problem may be between your ears! The dealer, if they're on the ball, will provide all the information i mentioned and more.

The car is fine. Now, I think i'll go plug in the back of my diesel.

Cheers!
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:27 PM
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I have been experiencing similar symptoms with my DERV. I parked my 2011 335D, listening to an NPR story and after 2-3 minutes the radio shut off, at the same time the speakers crackled, the vacuum pot bled off and that was it. The next morning the temps got down to -9F and it was sluggish starting. I made an appointment to have the car looked at. They performed a load test and the battery appeared to be fine.

However, based on the capacity calculations, they elected to replace the battery under "goodwill" and provided a battery tender almost like the one for my BMW GS Adventure, free of charge. She made it clear that BMW frowns on covering battery replacements, citing driver habit as the fault. Then she went on to write up the warranty anyway!

The final diagnosis? The car's computers compile data on your driving habits (a profile). Those 1.5 mile drives every morning make a profile less flattering than i would car to admit. There is a lot of noise going on under the dash and hood of your DERV, the problem may be between your ears! The dealer, if they're on the ball, will provide all the information i mentioned and more.

The car is fine. Now, I think i'll go plug in the back of my diesel.

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Old 12-30-2013, 11:31 PM
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Update on battery issue:
Took the 335D in for the battery issue and a scheduled vehicle inspection. They connected battery charger and found" fault code 9D12" and they found "battery state of charge is at 27%". Apparently they tested the alarm system and found "defective DWA siren with tilt sensor". A diagnostic code D6575 00000000 10 002 was listed on the paperwork.
Paperwork reads: The cause of customer's complaint was a defective DWA unit that depleted battery to a low state of charge. Battery is now defective.
Parts listed:
65-75-9-243-750 ALTERN.POWER BMRRSA
61-21-2-353-810 EP BATTERY 9 BM

They replaced the parts and added one quart of oil and washed the car. Service advisor called and tried to convince me to replace the tires for $860. I advised the advisor that I would take his recommendation under consideration when I get the car back and look at the tires myself.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:43 PM
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Old 09-09-2014, 04:19 AM
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it depends on how much equipment you're running. For example a car with NAV and heated seats will probably need a newer battery sooner than a vehicle without it. Short tripping and colder weather also play a part.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:24 AM
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Which year did they switch to AGM batteries? Could have something to do with it, AGM batteries seem to be more susceptible to build up than lead acid batteries, so you short trippers would be hurting an AGM even more than usual. I have 91k on my 2010, original battery and no issue running on acc and resuming after time-out several times.
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Old 09-09-2014, 07:50 AM
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it depends on how much equipment you're running. For example a car with NAV and heated seats will probably need a newer battery sooner than a vehicle without it. Short tripping and colder weather also play a part.
I had to replace my battery a few months ago - that's on a 335d delivered in November of 2009. I was surprised (a bit) because the OEM in my '01 330xi lasted over 7 years.

My 335d has heated seats and steering wheel, which do get used during the winter. But don't forget that the fuel heater, DEF heater (in active tank), and HVAC electric heater put quite a bit of load on the electrical system regardless of option level.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:52 PM
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I had to replace my battery a few months ago - that's on a 335d delivered in November of 2009. I was surprised (a bit) because the OEM in my '01 330xi lasted over 7 years.

My 335d has heated seats and steering wheel, which do get used during the winter. But don't forget that the fuel heater, DEF heater (in active tank), and HVAC electric heater put quite a bit of load on the electrical system regardless of option level.
Well, I have 4/09 335d and most of the last five years it has had two amps (500 and 600 watts rms) powering a dual 8" sub, upgraded front speakers, and for the last two years two 6.5 drivers in speaker pods replacing the underseat woofers. The battery is still working fine, though I havent left it undriven for very long. Admittedly, I dont have heated seats or the Convenience package.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:30 PM
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69,700 on my original 2010 335d battery.
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Old 09-11-2014, 09:41 AM
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My battery is going too - I'm getting a lot of battery discharge warnings - even to the extent that the AC fan only runs on low for a few miles. '10 335D. 48k miles - car was built in 11/09.

I'm considering an AGM battery - but not sure if that's better since I do a lot of short trips. Dealer wants over $600 - I can get it replaced at an indy for less than $300 including registering the battery. I'm thinking of telling the indy to match the existing battery as close as possible to avoid reprogramming problems.

I think the hot weather of SE Florida has taken it's toll.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:04 PM
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My battery is going too - I'm getting a lot of battery discharge warnings - even to the extent that the AC fan only runs on low for a few miles. '10 335D. 48k miles - car was built in 11/09.

I'm considering an AGM battery - but not sure if that's better since I do a lot of short trips. Dealer wants over $600 - I can get it replaced at an indy for less than $300 including registering the battery. I'm thinking of telling the indy to match the existing battery as close as possible to avoid reprogramming problems.

I think the hot weather of SE Florida has taken it's toll.
Boomer, we spoke about this a month ago! Go to the Indy I recommended. He will do the registration as well for about $300 total.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:42 PM
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So anybody heard any status report on BMWhat's progress on adding Battery registration to its capabilities? There was that person who created that coding application, it required a cable, but the free version did have the battery registration capability. I forget what it was called but I did install it on my laptop and it did appear to work for me. I didnt do anything with it though.
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