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Old 11-16-2010, 08:41 AM
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I got some friends from the mid atlantic region and they've never had to use snow tires. Maybe in the northeast or new england area you need it but definitely not in Maryland where it rarely snows significantly.
I know, good point. I could probably get away with all-season tires, but if I have to go down a tire size, I was going to go with the snow tire/wheel package and flip between snows and high performance OEM tires.

We have ice here and last year was the worst winter on record (80 plus inches of snow in the Baltimore area.)
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:44 AM
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I think that 17" wheel on Tire Rack for the 535i sport doesn't look bad at all. You get to show off your big brakes.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:20 AM
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OR...I just go with my same 19" BMW rims and buy a set of 19" Dunlop SP Winter Sport
M3 tires for $249 each (245/40R19)
(and also buy a "mobility kit")

Thoughts?

Can you tell I am still undecided?? Thanks for all of your suggestions so far.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:32 AM
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I used to do that for a couple winters, then decided in the long-term it wasn't worth it and just bit the bullet with new wheels. With your lower-profile tires, even more so.

The cost of taking it to a shop to mount tires each time is going to be expensive, around $100, likely more. Each time, so that's twice a year. In a few years, that adds up to more than the cost of simply buying wheel/tires together, because you can simply swap out the wheels at home with a jack and torque wrench. Plus, you reduce the likelihood of rim damage and scratches by not constantly mounting/unmounting tires on the same expensive 19" rim.
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Old 11-16-2010, 01:31 PM
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I got some friends from the mid atlantic region and they've never had to use snow tires. Maybe in the northeast or new england area you need it but definitely not in Maryland where it rarely snows significantly.
It depends where you live, I live out in the country and when it snows my development doesn't get plowed for weeks at a time depending on how much snow we get. If you live in the city I would agree most of the time your all seasons work fine in FWD cars. RWD I wouldn't drive in the snow with all seasons your just asking for trouble.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:27 PM
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17" Snow Package

Here's an image from the configurator showing the BMW 327 rims on my 535i sport. Looks fine in the metal for winter. Ride is a little softer and handling is not as sharp as my summer 331 rims with 19" tires. Not sure this kit is still available as an earlier poster mentioned. As a followup from the earlier question, the $495 per wheel includes the TPMS sensors. BMW CCA discount helps.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:50 PM
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B_U_D,

Do you have a F10? (2011 535i) Is it a sport package with 19's? Have you put the 17" wheels/tires on the car yet? How does it look? (any pictures?)

I am surprised to see that you didn't like any of the 18" wheel choices that tirerack has...as they have 44 choices for 18" wheels and only ONE choice for 17" wheel.
Yes I have a F10 535i with sport. I haven't put on the 17" yet since the weather is still warm. You are right. Now tirerack has more choices for 18" wheels. When I ordered my winter setup, I think there were 2 cheaper 18" wheels and the rest were OZ wheels. 17" wasn't perfect but I didn't have many choices when I ordered them.

Those 18" Enkei rims look ok to me and the price is reasonable for winter setup.

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Old 11-16-2010, 07:55 PM
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my winter tire-wheel package

I just installed 4 bridgestone blizzak LM-25 RFT with MSW type 12 wheels for my 2011 550i and it cost 1900 including shipping and TPMS from Tirerack. Another 45 dollars for installation. I am quite happy with the drive so far but then we haven't had any snow yet. I was not keen to get these wheels purely because of the looks but had no other option as the other ones would not be avilable till late winter or early spring. They look much better in person though and more sportier than the original. Looks do matter bur choose the right size and fit for your car. the 17'' was not an option for the 550i. Hope it helps.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:56 AM
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I just installed 4 bridgestone blizzak LM-25 RFT with MSW type 12 wheels for my 2011 550i and it cost 1900 including shipping and TPMS from Tirerack. Another 45 dollars for installation. I am quite happy with the drive so far but then we haven't had any snow yet. I was not keen to get these wheels purely because of the looks but had no other option as the other ones would not be avilable till late winter or early spring. They look much better in person though and more sportier than the original. Looks do matter bur choose the right size and fit for your car. the 17'' was not an option for the 550i. Hope it helps.
Thanks. What size of tires did you install? Also, did you install the same size of front and rear? FYI, the MSW Type 12 wheels are now sold out at tirerack.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:05 AM
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All 4 are 245/45R-18 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 RFT Runflat. So what is avilable for wheels for this tire size at Tirerack currently?
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:07 AM
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All 4 are 245/45R-18 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 RFT Runflat. So what is avilable for wheels for this tire size at Tirerack currently?
There are quite a few:
http://www.tirerack.com/snow/WinterW...oy#results_top
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:54 AM
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For 550i, wheels that are under $350 are all made in Asia. I am thinking Italian made O.Z. Superturismo LM Silver Painted, I think they look cool and not too heavy.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:00 AM
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Hi, Anybody have recommendations on what tire to replace the stock 19's with on my 2011 BMW 535i Sport? (I NEED TO GET SNOW TIRES.) I am debating between ROF/RFT (runflats) and non-runflats (and purchasing a pump kit.)

TireRack's preferred package for snows is Blizzak LM-25 RFT with ugly wheels. (and it is $1,752 before tax and shipping.)

The Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 RFT is $254 each. Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D RunOnFlat is $270 each.

The Michelin X-Ice Xi2 (non-runflat) is $158 each.

I will be buying the package (wheels and TPMS kits) so this is getting pricey.
I am a loyal customer of TireRack.

Also, FYI, I live in Maryland so could probably get away with all-seasons (with the exception last year--we got about 80" of snow last season.) I have a set of four all season tires (Continental Extreme Contact DWS) fronts, 245-40R18 and rears, 275-35R18 sitting in my garage (that I used on my 2008 535i Sport (that is now gone.) TireRack told me that those sizes wouldn't work on my F10, but I am not 100% about that being accurate.


Help?
Eer YES they will.
It is that most winters for that car are 245/45/18 and 245/40/18 rears or 2**/45/18 rears, it just raises the vehicle height.
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I went to Radial Tire Company on Brookville Road in Silver Spring and got a nice winter tire and wheel package for about $1600.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:58 PM
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I would get Blizzaks if I had to drive in all conditions. Fortunately, I don't. My All-weather Contis and traction control have gotten me through all situations not requiring 4-wheel propulsion systems. Your milage may vary.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:17 PM
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OR...I just go with my same 19" BMW rims and buy a set of 19" Dunlop SP Winter Sport
M3 tires for $249 each (245/40R19)
(and also buy a "mobility kit")

Thoughts?

Can you tell I am still undecided?? Thanks for all of your suggestions so far.
In addition to issues of cost, there are technical issues to consider. Each time that you put a tire on and take it off, the sidewall breaks down which impacts tire function and tire life. Winter wheels and tires in conjunction with high performance tires makes sense to many of us. Another option is all season tires that are left on all year long.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:22 AM
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In addition to issues of cost, there are technical issues to consider. Each time that you put a tire on and take it off, the sidewall breaks down which impacts tire function and tire life. Winter wheels and tires in conjunction with high performance tires makes sense to many of us. Another option is all season tires that are left on all year long.

Yes you are right. After all of this discussion and internal debate, I was just advised that a friend of mine who had an M5 (2008 M5, I think) is sending me his BMW oem wheels (M Double Spoke 184 wheels with 245-45R18 tires.) Now I need to find out if the TPMS sensors will work on my F10....or I will have to buy new sensors.

I posted a question last night in the E60 forum, but haven't gotten any concrete answers. (I am not trying to SPAM; if I could figure out how to delete that post I would...)
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:51 PM
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Yes you are right. After all of this discussion and internal debate, I was just advised that a friend of mine who had an M5 (2008 M5, I think) is sending me his BMW oem wheels (M Double Spoke 184 wheels with 245-45R18 tires.) Now I need to find out if the TPMS sensors will work on my F10....or I will have to buy new sensors.

I posted a question last night in the E60 forum, but haven't gotten any concrete answers. (I am not trying to SPAM; if I could figure out how to delete that post I would...)
So anyone have any idea if the 2008 M5 TPMS sensors will work on my F10....or I will have to buy new sensors? (I have a June built 535i.)
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I think they should be the same after 2006, but this is not something I am 100% sure, email Gary@ tirerack.com
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:16 PM
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I think they should be the same after 2006, but this is not something I am 100% sure, email Gary@ tirerack.com
Thanks! Will do.
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Yes you are right. After all of this discussion and internal debate, I was just advised that a friend of mine who had an M5 (2008 M5, I think) is sending me his BMW oem wheels (M Double Spoke 184 wheels with 245-45R18 tires.) Now I need to find out if the TPMS sensors will work on my F10....or I will have to buy new sensors.

I posted a question last night in the E60 forum, but haven't gotten any concrete answers. (I am not trying to SPAM; if I could figure out how to delete that post I would...)
Had my snows put on today. Tirerack put in the old type sensors, Beru tirerack prod number S007. Builds as of 9/1 require S099 sensors. The old sensors do not work in my car. They will be replaced with the correct senors free of charge by the Tirerack including paying my dealer to put them into the wheels and mounting and balancing.

The Blizzak LM-25 RFTs seem okay. I little rougher and noisier than the OE all season Goodyears, but in a 550i the difference is barely noticeable.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:26 PM
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Had my snows put on today. Tirerack put in the old type sensors, Beru tirerack prod number S007. Builds as of 9/1 require S099 sensors. The old sensors do not work in my car. They will be replaced with the correct senors free of charge by the Tirerack including paying my dealer to put them into the wheels and mounting and balancing.

The Blizzak LM-25 RFTs seem okay. I little rougher and noisier than the OE all season Goodyears, but in a 550i the difference is barely noticeable.
Thanks for the update. I might be okay with the sensors from the M5 wheels/tires. My build was June 2010.
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Aha, that explains why they're asking if the car was produced after 9/1 or before, they changed them again. I think the new sensors are like $130 so if you got tires for free, it's worth it.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:58 PM
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Aha, that explains why they're asking if the car was produced after 9/1 or before, they changed them again. I think the new sensors are like $130 so if you got tires for free, it's worth it.
I know. tires and wheels. it is definitely worth it. (even if I have to have the sensors changes out--will be a hassle though to mount the wheels on the car and maybe have to take them off if the sensors don't work.)
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Cost by my dealer of putting in the senors and mounting and balancing with sales tax is $225.40, not including the price of the sensors themselves which the Tirerack is shipping to my dealer free of charge. Tirerack will reimburse me for the installation by my dealer.
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