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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 11-22-2010, 02:01 PM
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I got it for 300 over the invoice (if there is any Maco fees then it was not paid by me) in NJ.

So "Published Invoice" minus $3500 eco minus $2500 holiday cash, plus $300?

If a cash price, very good deal.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:13 PM
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I got it for 300 over the invoice (if there is any Maco fees then it was not paid by me) in NJ.
That's a remarkable deal. Be careful with the hidden charge though.

I got $1000 over invoice with no document fee, which I am pretty happy with it.
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:03 PM
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So "Published Invoice" minus $3500 eco minus $2500 holiday cash, plus $300?

If a cash price, very good deal.
The $2,500 holiday credit is from BMW finance, so you need to finance at least part of the X5 to get it (ie: technically not a cash deal).

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if there is any Maco fees then it was not paid by me
The MACO, if it exists in your area, is included IN the invoice price. If there was a MACO fee, and you paid invoice plus $300, then you paid the MACO. Same for the $200 training fee and $875 delivery fee.
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:35 PM
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The $2,500 holiday credit is from BMW finance, so you need to finance at least part of the X5 to get it (ie: technically not a cash deal).
Good point, but just pay it off.



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The MACO, if it exists in your area, is included IN the invoice price. If there was a MACO fee, and you paid invoice plus $300, then you paid the MACO. Same for the $200 training fee and $875 delivery fee.

Who knows WHAT "invoice" means any more!!

Yes, most definitions of "invoice" are really "what it costs the dealer to get the car on the lot ready for you to buy" (not including holdbacks, etc,etc)

So yes, usually invoice includes those items...but someone runs an Edmunds calculator and maybe they don't include maco and training in their "invoice calculations"

This has been beaten to death, and I suspect you and I are on the same page- I just bring this up so newbs don't read "wow, a deal of _______ over/under invoice, what am I doing wrong"
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:14 PM
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Invoice

Invoice attached for anybody interested. Shows the MACO fee and Training fee as part of the "invoice". Maybe I'm beating a dead horse here but there seems to be a lot of confusion around what the invoice includes.
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:31 PM
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Think you will receive the lashing rails and lashing points as part of the storage pkg?

I'm doubtful. Will find out on 12/2 at the PCD.

CA assures me that the cargo cover will be present.

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Old 11-22-2010, 07:05 PM
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Invoice attached for anybody interested. Shows the MACO fee and Training fee as part of the "invoice". Maybe I'm beating a dead horse here but there seems to be a lot of confusion around what the invoice includes.
sorry to go off-topic but do you have invoice pricing for the X5 50i?
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:01 AM
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The $2,500 holiday credit is from BMW finance, so you need to finance at least part of the X5 to get it (ie: technically not a cash deal).



The MACO, if it exists in your area, is included IN the invoice price. If there was a MACO fee, and you paid invoice plus $300, then you paid the MACO. Same for the $200 training fee and $875 delivery fee.
No the MACO was not part of the invoice I calculated. I just paid flat 300 more over the invoice.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:14 AM
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No the MACO was not part of the invoice I calculated. I just paid flat 300 more over the invoice.
Again, which "invoice"? The one you calculated, or the invoice like ckwinter posted? And did you pay 300 over invoice but the dealer kept the incentives? And was it a cash price or a finance/trade in?

You simply cannot declare that "I didn't pay MACO" unless every single component of the deal is identified! They can hide $300 a lot of different places.....
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:43 PM
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Again, which "invoice"? The one you calculated, or the invoice like ckwinter posted? And did you pay 300 over invoice but the dealer kept the incentives? And was it a cash price or a finance/trade in?

You simply cannot declare that "I didn't pay MACO" unless every single component of the deal is identified! They can hide $300 a lot of different places.....
I built the car on edmunds which lists the invoice price. I paid 300 more then that.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:38 PM
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I built the car on edmunds which lists the invoice price. I paid 300 more then that.
LOL

Edmunds doesn't include MACO and/or svc fees.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:25 AM
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X5 35D price

Placed order last week for 2011 X5 35D with following options...
Premium Package, Rear Climate, Sport Activity, Tech Package, Cold Weather, Premium Sound, Roof Rails

MSRP: $64775
Bought For: $57300
Plus DMV/Doc fees: $720
Plus getting an additional $2500 credit towards financing.
Can't Wait!
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:00 AM
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ok purchase price $ 55,270.00 is that with or without $1800 tax credit? so are u saving $ 10,305 or $10,305 plus $1800 = $12105.00 ?
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:12 AM
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So we have been going back and forth with a few dealers. Some won't even bother to quote until you have physically been to see them. They are off the list.

The best quote so far:

MSRP $65,575.00
Invoice $60,270.00

Purchase Price $ 55,270.00
Tax $ 3,868.90
Registration $ 439.50
Doc $ 239.00
Total $ 59,817.40

So that should break down to 1k over invoice. then the 3500 ECO credit and 2500 holiday financing credit.

Is there anything else I should be aware of?

The Doc fee changes depending on the dealership. One was 349.00 and another was 165.20.

I'm also considering the road hazard (tire and wheel) insurance - got a quote of 1900 and maybe the extended warranty. I've been reading up on everyone other posts and am still ambiviant about it.

I forgot to mention that we are trading a car. I'm sure that will be part of the negotiations. Any suggestions on how to handle that? Its a VW R32 2008 with over 60k.

Any help appreciated!

Options on the X5 in case anyone wanted to know\:
Active ventilated seat package
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Premium Sound Package
Rear Climate Package
Technology Package
Comfort Access keyless entry
Roof rails$
ok purchase price $ 55,270.00 is that with or without $1800 tax credit?
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:03 AM
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ok purchase price $ 55,270.00 is that with or without $1800 tax credit?
Without. Porkchop is my wife.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:59 AM
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so you will save around $12000 off msrp is that correct?
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:01 PM
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Without. Porkchop is my wife.
so total saved $12000 off msrp is that correct with the 1800 tax credit?
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:57 PM
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so total saved $12000 off msrp is that correct with the 1800 tax credit?
I guess. I wouldn't count the $1,800 against the MSRP, but if you want to, I guess it is around there.

1098 huh? I had one of those. Great bike. I sold mine to buy a second 749R though.
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:03 AM
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We haven't confirmed about the 1800 tax credit yet, but on the website and when we asked our accountant, she confirmed that its on the list. I hope it will be 1800. Its much more than the Toureg, which I think was only 450.

We are waiting to hear word on the date of our delivery! I can't wait!
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:56 AM
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Just ordered the X5 D in Maryland yesterday.

500 over invoice (included maco and training all other fees)
plus eco,holiday credit
buy rate MF
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:00 AM
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Just ordered the X5 D in Maryland yesterday.

500 over invoice (included maco and training all other fees)
plus eco,holiday credit
buy rate MF
if you don't mind my asking, which dealer?
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:28 AM
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We haven't confirmed about the 1800 tax credit yet, ....

We are waiting to hear word on the date of our delivery! I can't wait!
You should check, but my read is that the tax credit expires on Dec 31, 2010.... unless you take delivery before then, no credit on 2010 taxes.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:40 AM
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You should check, but my read is that the tax credit expires on Dec 31, 2010.... unless you take delivery before then, no credit on 2010 taxes.
I believe this is true. Maybe, just maybe, if you buy/take delivery of the X5d in 2011, you can get a credit on your 2011 taxes.
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Old 11-29-2010, 12:15 PM
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. Maybe, just maybe, if you buy/take delivery of the X5d in 2011, you can get a credit on your 2011 taxes.
Not according to the published law that defined the tax credit!
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Old 11-29-2010, 12:25 PM
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Not according to the published law that defined the tax credit!
Ok, last thing I'm going to do is argue. I plan to get my X5d in 2010, so its a moot point for me.
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