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Old 11-20-2010, 08:08 AM
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Does anyone know exactly what brake fluid is recommended for a 2007 328xi? I want to have my indy dealer replace my brakes and flush the fuild. I want to provide them all of the material and was curious where to purchase the best fluid for the job.

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DOT4 I believe. I would get some ATE Gold (the blue tends to permanently stain the reservoir). Amazon has it and so does Bav Auto.
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Old 11-20-2010, 09:33 AM
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Look up the Mike Miller maintenance schedule

Search Mike Miller BMW his schedule has a list of all fluids and why to use them
I would use the BMW Fluid you can order it from Tischer BMW or pick it up at
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I like to alternate between the ATE blue and the gold, so you know when the old fluid is flushed out. The staining of the reservoir has not been a significant issue for me.
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DOT4 I believe. I would get some ATE Gold (the blue tends to permanently stain the reservoir). Amazon has it and so does Bav Auto.
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It is DOT 4
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Castrol LMA and BMW fluid have the same spec. Castrol LMA is available almost any corner parts store. As mentioned, ATE 200 is the other popular choice but takes a bit more effort to locate.
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for all the replies! Last question, does anyone know what the capacity is to replace all the fuild?
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If you are changing the fluid, you should probably bleed the clutch too if swapping brands/types. The brake reservoir supplies the brake system and the clutch. I am a generous 'flusher' and use between 500mL to a liter as I use Ate Gold, and it comes in 1L bottles, and I don't store the unused fluid (hydration) for more than a week or so. I carry it in case I feel I need to bleed the brakes at track days, and then toss it after the event.
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I like to alternate between the ATE blue and the gold, so you know when the old fluid is flushed out. The staining of the reservoir has not been a significant issue for me.
be careful though, superblue is not DOT4 (only because of the color). in the volvo s60R realm i heard of a guy getting denied warranty on a clutch slave cylinder failure due to the fact super blue is NOT dot 4. (dot spec for brake fluid is yellow or amber)
its a technicality, but it might be an expensive one.

i used typ200 and just flush each line a little longer
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Good point - but I don't start doing my own brake fluid flushes until after warranty.
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I like to alternate between the ATE blue and the gold, so you know when the old fluid is flushed out. The staining of the reservoir has not been a significant issue for me.
I used blue once and the colour leached into the system and made flushing more difficult as it wasn't a quick transition from blue to yellow, more like a lot of green shades. When I first used blue, I marked my catch bottle, and use that as an approximate guide for the volume.

Interestingly, my SA knows I track the car and asked if I wanted my fluid changed, rather than just doing it. Once he figured out that I tracked the car, we had a discussion about what I was doing and what was not acceptable for warranty purposes. He kind of liked the fact that the car gets driven (somewhat) how it was designed! I am a little lucky!
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Old 11-21-2010, 06:21 AM
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Hello,

Does anyone know exactly what brake fluid is recommended for a 2007 328xi? I want to have my indy dealer replace my brakes and flush the fuild. I want to provide them all of the material and was curious where to purchase the best fluid for the job.

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Recently got flush the FLUID for my brakes & damn there's this squeeking noise comes now as I brake from 40-zero as I approach a light :-(

What to do ? Causes ?
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DOT4. If you want to get in the habit of changing it every 6 months to a year, you can go with RBF600.
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I used blue once and the colour leached into the system and made flushing more difficult as it wasn't a quick transition from blue to yellow, more like a lot of green shades. When I first used blue, I marked my catch bottle, and use that as an approximate guide for the volume.

Interestingly, my SA knows I track the car and asked if I wanted my fluid changed, rather than just doing it. Once he figured out that I tracked the car, we had a discussion about what I was doing and what was not acceptable for warranty purposes. He kind of liked the fact that the car gets driven (somewhat) how it was designed! I am a little lucky!
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I read that the ATE racing fluid isn't good for cars with DTC. So used BMW brake fluid. The Parts guy said two bottles would do it and he was right ( I would need more for the clutch ). I paid $4.45/bottle
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I read that the ATE racing fluid isn't good for cars with DTC. So used BMW brake fluid. The Parts guy said two bottles would do it and he was right ( I would need more for the clutch ). I paid $4.45/bottle
Where did you read that?
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I've read it various places but here is the top google result. This is what JamesM3M5 says for those who don't want to click
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Modern BMWs and most other cars require a low viscosity fluid due to the traction control and ABS systems, and blue/typ 200 are not. I don't have a supplier that sells the ATE SL.6, so we've gone with Motul 5.1 and RBF 600.
Also, during one of the NJ BMW CCA meetings in the summer, they had a brake fluid presentation. The presenter explained the benefits of super blue and I was very excited to start using it then he dropped the bomb about traction control and all my dreams where shattered
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Also, during one of the NJ BMW CCA meetings in the summer, they had a brake fluid presentation. The presenter explained the benefits of super blue and I was very excited to start using it then he dropped the bomb about traction control and all my dreams where shattered
Interesting. I haven't "felt" any issues with traction control when at the track, running in M3 MDM mode or full nannies on (by accident). It seemed to work fine. This is the first I have heard of this and haven't seen it brought up in "track" threads before. Anything more recent than 2006?
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Not that I know of. I have no track experience ( though I hope to some day ) so I'm not very educated on the subject. However, that presentation I went to was from summer 2010.
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IIRC BMW recommends DOT 4. ATE 200/Blue meets or exceeds DOT 4 Spec (except for the blue dye). And looking at the ATE website the viscosity is thinner than the DOT 4 SPEC. So it is surprising that the statement was made that ATE 200/Blue may be too thick for BMW ABS/Stability Systems.

Marketing-wise ATE is pushing SL.6 for modern ABS systems and as a substitute for cars requiring "SUPER DOT 4". I have a car that specifically calls out this fluid type - which is also considered the newer spec of DOT 5.1

My point is, if BMW says DOT 4, then ATE 200 works. Like ///M-Rated, I don't understand why someone is saying it doesn't.
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Marketing-wise ATE is pushing SL.6 for modern ABS systems
Yeah in the description on tire rack they mention that SL.6 works with all the fancy new technologies
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How do i check the brake oil?
Brake oil is very very expensive and difficult to apply, most often used in planetary exploration rovers. Recommend you leave that to the dealer - if you inquire, please let us know [post here] how dealer responds.

Brake fluid, on the other hand, is most often glycol based and can be checked by looking at the level in the reservoir. Brake fluid is best replaced yearly as a PM. DIY's abound, easily searched for.

If you mean testing brake fluid for water; integrity of constituents, don't bother. If in question, simply replace w/new DOT 4 fluid - much less expensive and very easy to do.


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The official BMW fluid (found HERE) is DOT 4 with a Boiling Point Dry of 446*F and Wet 311*F. Now that being said any of the fluids found HERE are compatible with your E9X. My personal go to brake fluid is Motul 600.


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