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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 12-12-2010, 05:50 PM
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M3 is the most reliable model in BMW lineup?

I was just reading this month's Roundel, and there is an article about Consumer Report's reliability report on BMWs. It was pretty pathetic, thanks to all the turbo engines. The M3 is the apparently the most reliable car in the lineup, while the 135i is the least.
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I read the same information. For me the M3 seems reliability after 12 months 10K miles
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:02 AM
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I'm at 87K miles and mine has been reliable. Only issues I'm having are a really rough idle(frequently stalls) immediately after EVERY fill-up (always premium, different brands) and the key fob won't charge. I had it in the caddie for two 12 hour drives in a row (Saturday and Sunday) and it still gave me the dash light to charge it on Monday... Other than that, rock solid.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:37 AM
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I'm at 87K miles and mine has been reliable. Only issues I'm having are a really rough idle(frequently stalls) immediately after EVERY fill-up (always premium, different brands) and the key fob won't charge. I had it in the caddie for two 12 hour drives in a row (Saturday and Sunday) and it still gave me the dash light to charge it on Monday... Other than that, rock solid.
If you have comfort access it won't charge.....you'll have to change the battery.....Phil
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:07 PM
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I was just reading this month's Roundel, and there is an article about Consumer Report's reliability report on BMWs. It was pretty pathetic, thanks to all the turbo engines. The M3 is the apparently the most reliable car in the lineup, while the 135i is the least.
Now I'm really curious as to how the new 1 Series M turbo will compare in reliability versus the M3
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Now I'm really curious as to how the new 1 Series M turbo will compare in reliability versus the M3
Sure hope there is no HPFP fiasco
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If you have comfort access it won't charge.....you'll have to change the battery.....Phil
Thanks a lot Ryder! The dealer told me to charge it in the holder but, now that you've said that, I looked closer at the fob and popped the cover off. There's the battery right there!
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If you have comfort access it won't charge.....you'll have to change the battery.....Phil
Good to know, I've never charged it and now never will.

By the way, 18K and flawless.
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I've had my M for 2 years now and had zero problems. I add a quart of oil about every 4 months but that's it. This is my fourth BMW and it is the only one that I haven't had at least one trip in for service to fix something.
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Take CR's reliability report on the M3 with a grain of salt. It only uses one year of data. CR doesn't even say which year. CR is a damned joke......
yet I want an M3..... BAD!!!!
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:29 AM
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If you have comfort access it won't charge.....you'll have to change the battery.....Phil
Off-topic, but I never understood why my fob won't charge with the Comfort Access option. While you don't have to put the fob in to start the car, why not just charge it while inserted? Another "option" that no one has asked for (like the start-stop feature).
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:15 AM
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I just had a HPFP go wrong on my 08 335i. Now that I'm trolling around the M3 forum, I am starting to really adhere to the idea of getting an M3. Obviously, there are less postings for the M3 forums, but I was wondering how you guys feel about the overall quality of your car. Would you do it again, or just lease it for the fun of the first 3/4 years? I am really interested in an ED trip for an M3, but need that push in the right direction. =)
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Old 12-19-2010, 10:21 AM
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Mine is almost two years old with 20k miles and I have had no major issues. Minor issues wise I have a burned out angel eye and comfort access is flaky. I am leasing it for 3 years and still thinking about whether I want to buy it at the end of the lease. Reading the tech section at the end of roundel makes me nervous about long term ownership.
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I wouldn't either
I tend to agree with you all. We are already hearing about HPFP issues on the new N55, which means it's not an isolated case with the N54.

The N63 (V8) seems to be the most reliable turbo engine although to be fair, it isn't as widely used as the I6 counterparts (N54/55).
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I'm relieved to hear the M3 is the most reliable- I had fuel line issues with my '09 Z4 35i, with the N54 engine, & tired with the problems, I've traded it in for a new M3. There was a reason for BMW not take the turbo charged route for a long time- but now it has to keep in line with new emissions restrictions, and satisfy our "go faster" performance addiction, and really that's why they must go for forced induction, which means a sharp learning curve in terms of getting the reliability/cost balance right for them. My 2011 M3 Competition pack is stuck in our wonderful British snow...last I heard it was buried in 3ft of snow at the port holding area...

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Great feedback! Now, saying that the 335 can be faster/more powerful that the m3 (with a simple dinan factory upgrade), what is the drive for getting an M3 anyway?
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Great feedback! Now, saying that the 335 can be faster/more powerful that the m3 (with a simple dinan factory upgrade), what is the drive for getting an M3 anyway?
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Might sound like a stupid question, but its really not. Same body with a few more dents and holes, just a NA V8 engine. The 335 has an extremely tunable engine that can exceed the M3's engine in a blink. Add some suspension components and its hard to deny it. Don't get me wrong here, it is an honest question.

And I am looking to get an M3, but I must first justify its cost...(?)
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Might sound like a stupid question, but its really not. Same body with a few more dents and holes, just a NA V8 engine. The 335 has an extremely tunable engine that can exceed the M3's engine in a blink. Add some suspension components and its hard to deny it. Don't get me wrong here, it is an honest question.

And I am looking to get an M3, but I must first justify its cost...(?)
you test drive on yet?

here is good read

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Great feedback! Now, saying that the 335 can be faster/more powerful that the m3 (with a simple dinan factory upgrade), what is the drive for getting an M3 anyway?
The new M3 will likely be turbocharged and when tuned more powerful than the 335. There is no need to get the current M3 now if all you are after is HP and can wait. It'll also likely be better in many respects than the current car.

If you need a car now, and value bang for the buck more than other criteria, lease the M3 or get a tuned 335.
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Wow, if i ever wanted to tear down an m3, i'd use this guide hahahaha. My friend just got the newer M3, ill ask him to give me a test drive so i can feel the differences. I am just worried that I would get less than i already (potentially) could have... Not to mention M3 reliability doesn't echo 5 stars from the past.
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you test drive on yet?
That's what I was wondering as well. I drove the hell out of a 335i during a 1 day driving school at the BMW Performance Center. The M3 is a different animal. The 335i is quick as hell but that V8 power just goes on and on and on.... Now whether it is worth it to you might depend on where you live and whether you have roads that allow you to really have fun with it.
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Chris,

Thanks for the reply! I see you have done quite a few ED trips. I only have one under my belt, but it was a blast. Good call on the lease. Depreciation scares the heck outta me (I'm not rich enough to not be bothered by it). I usually buy my cars, and pay them off quickly. Of course the next gen will always be better right? That is scheduled for what 2013? Given a 3 year lease, that would land me square into the second generation of the car. Seems like a good idea! I have the current gen 3, but I am deathly afraid of it falling apart after its warranty..... To the test drive!

(Sorry, didn't mean to thread jack....guess this is still on the OP's topic though)
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