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2011 3 series sedan production end?

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My salesperson mentioned something about the 3 series sedan ending production soon. It was in a voicemail so I haven't had a chance to clarify. But does anyone know when the scheduled end of production for the 2011 MY is for the sedan (and coupe) 3 series?
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I think that is right but it won't probably be available until the 2013 models come to the US. I read that somewhere.
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Hi-

My salesperson mentioned something about the 3 series sedan ending production soon. It was in a voicemail so I haven't had a chance to clarify. But does anyone know when the scheduled end of production for the 2011 MY is for the sedan (and coupe) 3 series?
The 2011 MY end for the 335i is with the September, 2010 production. Thus, the 2012 MY will begin with October, 2012, production. **Or so I've been told; I could be wrong.**

Interestingly, that will mean the 2011 3 Series sedan (and coupe?) will have been made for a very, very long time: March of 2010 through September of 2011. That's a really long model year!

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EOP for E90s is 12/11 for E92s is 8/11
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Coupes are ending sooner? Isn't it usually the other way around?
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EOP for E90s is 12/11 for E92s is 8/11
You mean for the 2011 model year? I'd find it hard to belive that those are the final dates for the e90/92 before the F30 begins production--seems too soon.
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You mean for the 2011 model year? I'd find it hard to belive that those are the final dates for the e90/92 before the F30 begins production--seems too soon.
MY12 is still going to be the E92/93s
MY12 will be the F30s = sedans


EOP for MY11 1 Series, 7 Series and X5s is 03/11

...what is so hard to believe?

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MY12 is still going to be the E92/93s
MY12 will be the F30s = sedans


EOP for MY11 1 Series, 7 Series and X5s is 03/11

...what is so hard to believe?
Guess it makes sense. They introduced e90 sedans in the spring of 05, so 7 years later would be spring of 2012, so an e90 EOP of 12/11 makes sense. 2011 is going to be one of the longest model years on record for sedans.
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EOP for E90s is 12/11 for E92s is 8/11
I think you made a minor mistake you mean to say...

EOP E90/E91 = 12/11
EOP E92/E93 = 8/12

as the coupe conv. always runs on Aprox 1 MY behind the Sedan/wagon.
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I think you made a minor mistake you mean to say...

EOP E90/E91 = 12/11
EOP E92/E93 = 8/12

as the coupe conv. always runs on Aprox 1 MY behind the Sedan/wagon.
No, I did not make a mistake...EOP for MY11 E92/93 is 08/11
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The E-92 Coupe will end its 2011 production in August 2011, and the E-92 Coupe 2012 will begin production in September 2011. The only question is what types of modifications will be made, and the color selection. Does that clarify it?
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MY12 is still going to be the E92/93s
MY12 will be the F30s = sedans


EOP for MY11 1 Series, 7 Series and X5s is 03/11

...what is so hard to believe?
JW, are you saying the 2011 E90 is going to have a long model year that runs until this December and then the F30 will come out in early 2012 as a 2012 model? That would be a significant change to the norm for BMW. It would be expected that this fall the 2012 E90 would come out as usual and then have a short model year with the F30 coming out in early (March/April) 2012 as a 2013 model or possibly the E90 would have a regular 2012 model year and the F30 would come out in the fall of 2012 as a 2013.
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JW, are you saying the 2011 E90 is going to have a long model year that runs until this December and then the F30 will come out in early 2012 as a 2012 model? That would be a significant change to the norm for BMW. It would be expected that this fall the 2012 E90 would come out as usual and then have a short model year with the F30 coming out in early (March/April) 2012 as a 2013 model or possibly the E90 would have a regular 2012 model year and the F30 would come out in the fall of 2012 as a 2013.
Based on what I have heard JW's info is correct. I guess it does not make sense for BMW to introduce a 2012 E90 this year (in 2011) and then introduce a 2013 F30 in early 2012. Hence the 2011 E90 gets produced until the end of 2011 and then BMW starts off 2012 with the new 2012 F30. I am glad I got a last year production E90 myself. My 135 coupe, built in October 2007 was one of the first off the assembly line headed for North America, was riddled with issues. I loved the car, but it had constant annoying little problems. I would never "buy" a new production car, but would "lease" if I had to get something that just came out. I have already told Adrian I am getting the 535d when it makes its way over here, but I ll wait until 2016/2017 when the F10 is getting ready to be phased out and then pick one up.
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JW, are you saying the 2011 E90 is going to have a long model year that runs until this December and then the F30 will come out in early 2012 as a 2012 model? That would be a significant change to the norm for BMW. It would be expected that this fall the 2012 E90 would come out as usual and then have a short model year with the F30 coming out in early (March/April) 2012 as a 2013 model or possibly the E90 would have a regular 2012 model year and the F30 would come out in the fall of 2012 as a 2013.

What BMW could do in that scenario is to build full-volume until the end of the year as a 2011 model, which creates enough stock in the pipeline to last 3-4 months until they launch the new model in the late spring. They build the 3-series sedan in a few different factories, so they could start the changeover in one while still producing E90s for a few months in another.
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Based on what I have heard JW's info is correct. I guess it does not make sense for BMW to introduce a 2012 E90 this year (in 2011) and then introduce a 2013 F30 in early 2012. Hence the 2011 E90 gets produced until the end of 2011 and then BMW starts off 2012 with the new 2012 F30. I am glad I got a last year production E90 myself. My 135 coupe, built in October 2007 was one of the first off the assembly line headed for North America, was riddled with issues. I loved the car, but it had constant annoying little problems. I would never "buy" a new production car, but would "lease" if I had to get something that just came out. I have already told Adrian I am getting the 535d when it makes its way over here, but I ll wait until 2016/2017 when the F10 is getting ready to be phased out and then pick one up.
That still is a significant departure from how BMW has introduced new models in the past. BMW has a seven year model cycle. The E36 came out as a 1991 model and ended as a 1998 model, the E46 sedan/touring came out as a 1999 model and ended as a 2005 model, with the 2005 model year being a little short.

The E90 came out in April 2005 as a 2006 model and ran as a 2006 model for a year and a half until the 2007 model was introduced in the August/September time frame of 2006.

I have seen nothing from BMW that leads me to believe in any way that they plan to carry the 2011 E90/91 until the end of this year. Everything I am aware of indicates they will have a 2012 model E90/91 and then sometime between spring and fall 2012 they will bring out the F30 as a 2013 model, as is their custom.
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That still is a significant departure from how BMW has introduced new models in the past. BMW has a seven year model cycle.

I have seen nothing from BMW that leads me to believe in any way that they plan to carry the 2011 E90/91 until the end of this year. Everything I am aware of indicates they will have a 2012 model E90/91 and then sometime between spring and fall 2012 they will bring out the F30 as a 2013 model, as is their custom.
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