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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 01-07-2011, 08:21 PM
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My car originally came with a staggered set of M Contour IIs, but the PO sold and replaced them with a squared set of Voxx wheels. The thing is that I don't know anything about these wheels (weight, offset, etc.). I'm thinking about selling the Voxx wheels, which are in absolutely perfect condition, and purchasing a set of the wheels in the following link.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=LTW5-WHEEL

If I get these wheels, should I go with a staggered or squared setup? From what I've found, staggered setups increase understeer. Plus, they eliminate the convenience of tire rotation. Is squared the way to go? I was thinking 17x8 all around. I think 17x8.5 will be too big. If squared is more desirable, why did BMW go with a staggered configuration?

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Squared is the way to go, staggard rears are for more traction. I'm sure others will chime in to help more.
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staggard= faster in a straight line (because of better traction)
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:22 AM
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Thanks guys.

Does anyone have any experience with these wheels? I couldn't find any reviews on them. Also, a rim/tire width of 8 inches should fit in the front of a '97 m3 sedan right? I heard 8.5 inches might require some underbody work.

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It all depends on offset with a rim that size.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:49 AM
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The offset for the rims in the link is 41mm. The offset for original M wheels is 42mm, so the rims I'm looking at are almost exact. Based on that, could 17x8 fit in the front? What about 17x8.5?

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You shouldn't have fitment issues with an 8 in wide wheel at that offset. As most have stated, you're better off with a square setup for the points you and others have already mentioned.
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If I get these wheels, should I go with a staggered or squared setup? From what I've found, staggered setups increase understeer. Plus, they eliminate the convenience of tire rotation. Is squared the way to go? I was thinking 17x8 all around. I think 17x8.5 will be too big. If squared is more desirable, why did BMW go with a staggered configuration?

Thanks!

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Many car makers build their cars to understeer out of concern for safety, which I think is one of the reasons why BMW eventually went with a staggered setup on the '96-99 E36 M3 ('95s were square, by the way, and were known to handle better than the later M3s). Cars that understeer are generally safer for lay drivers. I definitely recommend going with a square setup, and you shouldn't have any trouble finding 17x8.5" wheels that require no bodywork to fit. I'm a fan of the Kosei K1, which is the lightweight Spec E36 wheel of choice:
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Ive noticed that when the track on the front of the car is much wider than the rear it handles so much better...

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square setup of ds2's with 15mm spacers in the front felt perfect to me but i never tested it out on the track
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:02 PM
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Those Kosei K1s are sweet. They're cheaper and cooler looking, yet equal in weight, when compared to the other wheels I was looking at. Def. my #1 choice atm. I'm assuming they only come in silver, as I didnt see any other color options on the site. I could get them painted if I really wanted to...

Thanks for all the info guys.

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