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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 01-07-2011, 08:21 PM
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My car originally came with a staggered set of M Contour IIs, but the PO sold and replaced them with a squared set of Voxx wheels. The thing is that I don't know anything about these wheels (weight, offset, etc.). I'm thinking about selling the Voxx wheels, which are in absolutely perfect condition, and purchasing a set of the wheels in the following link.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=LTW5-WHEEL

If I get these wheels, should I go with a staggered or squared setup? From what I've found, staggered setups increase understeer. Plus, they eliminate the convenience of tire rotation. Is squared the way to go? I was thinking 17x8 all around. I think 17x8.5 will be too big. If squared is more desirable, why did BMW go with a staggered configuration?

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Squared is the way to go, staggard rears are for more traction. I'm sure others will chime in to help more.
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staggard= faster in a straight line (because of better traction)
squared= better handling

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Old 01-08-2011, 05:22 AM
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Thanks guys.

Does anyone have any experience with these wheels? I couldn't find any reviews on them. Also, a rim/tire width of 8 inches should fit in the front of a '97 m3 sedan right? I heard 8.5 inches might require some underbody work.

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It all depends on offset with a rim that size.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:49 AM
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The offset for the rims in the link is 41mm. The offset for original M wheels is 42mm, so the rims I'm looking at are almost exact. Based on that, could 17x8 fit in the front? What about 17x8.5?

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You shouldn't have fitment issues with an 8 in wide wheel at that offset. As most have stated, you're better off with a square setup for the points you and others have already mentioned.
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If I get these wheels, should I go with a staggered or squared setup? From what I've found, staggered setups increase understeer. Plus, they eliminate the convenience of tire rotation. Is squared the way to go? I was thinking 17x8 all around. I think 17x8.5 will be too big. If squared is more desirable, why did BMW go with a staggered configuration?

Thanks!

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Many car makers build their cars to understeer out of concern for safety, which I think is one of the reasons why BMW eventually went with a staggered setup on the '96-99 E36 M3 ('95s were square, by the way, and were known to handle better than the later M3s). Cars that understeer are generally safer for lay drivers. I definitely recommend going with a square setup, and you shouldn't have any trouble finding 17x8.5" wheels that require no bodywork to fit. I'm a fan of the Kosei K1, which is the lightweight Spec E36 wheel of choice:
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Ive noticed that when the track on the front of the car is much wider than the rear it handles so much better...

example

square setup of ds2's with 15mm spacers in the front felt perfect to me but i never tested it out on the track
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I love K1s.

But I'm not sure if they would look right on my car.
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Those Kosei K1s are sweet. They're cheaper and cooler looking, yet equal in weight, when compared to the other wheels I was looking at. Def. my #1 choice atm. I'm assuming they only come in silver, as I didnt see any other color options on the site. I could get them painted if I really wanted to...

Thanks for all the info guys.

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