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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 10-21-2014, 11:07 PM
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What to tell people who fix their "breaks" instead of their "brakes"

It hurts my eyes to read poor grammar, and, particularly, when I see people REPEATEDLY misspell their "brakes" as their "breaks".

I can't fathom that particular mistake, as, just having seen the words ONCE in print, anyone would know the difference (you'd think).

Of course, sometimes, it's simply a typo (but not when it's repeated time and time again in a thread).

Anyway, on this forum, we are what we write, so, I open this thread to (gently) point others to when they (repeatedly) misspell "brakes", as "breaks".

Whatever your opinions are on this topic, please add them, so that the folks referred to here may benefit from your wisdom.

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Old 10-21-2014, 11:56 PM
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Bluebee I love the pictures! I totally agree. The written word is important. We have words because they mean things. Therefore, we should use the correct word.
Some people are uneducated, and may truly not know the difference. However, many more just can't be bothered to use the proper word.

Just a final thought...

The only opinion we have of each other, (for most of us) is that which we develop by reading posts. I don't wish to be thought of as a fool, so I do my best to use proper grammar and to type sentences which accurately communicate my thoughts.
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:42 AM
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Agree with all of the above.

Haven't been in a school classroom lately: Do they still teach grammar, punctuation, and spelling?

Texting encourages sloppy writing.

One of my faves is the use of car's (singular possessive), for cars (plural).
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For some people, English is not their mother tongue, so one can give them some slack.
For people whose English is their 1st language, well they need to see their English teacher...
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Old 10-22-2014, 07:57 AM
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Dyslexia is a b!tch... The Break Brake mix up is actually one of my most common especially here on an automotiv forum.. Its not lack of education just a mental mix up. Hand writing for me is much worse than typing. My B, D, P, and Q are always messed up. But if all the letters are there it looks right in my head no matter the order. Now I'm going to take a break from working on my brakes...
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:18 AM
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LOL, Would seem Rachael's only problems isn't spelling! "Breaking up" with a guy who has never taken her out on a date, and hasn't talked to her in 3 months??? "Klingon ain't just a planet full of large ugly people!"
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:50 AM
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Well I beg to differ...

Sometimes poor grammar can come from a lot of things that you have to take consider of..

One could be that a person just doesn't know how to type that well or try to type too fast.

Another can come from auto correction I'm sure everyone has experience this at one point if u have a "smart phone". Lol

As well as, one can be from a different country and how they pronounce thier words is how they type them...

Just because you didn't stay in school doesn't mean you can't type correct grammar, these are computers and they can correct them selfs, it's the laziness which causes a person to type or have poor grammar.

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Do not enable

If you put up with bad grammar, you are only enabling it. We all should learn something new every day. We come to this board to learn something new. Don't make excuses for the bad 'garmmarians'. No one on this board would let bad mechanical practices slide.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:41 AM
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If you put up with bad grammar, you are only enabling it. We all should learn something new every day. We come to this board to learn something new. Don't make excuses for the bad 'garmmarians'. No one on this board would let bad mechanical practices slide.
Apples and oranges, my friend. True, we come here to learn, but not to correct other's grammatical errors. I'm a technical editor by profession. Where it matters, yes, English has to be grammatically correct. On this board, communication is the key. As long as you're able to convey your question or answer with some degree of comprehension, your objective has been accomplished.

Get over it. I marvel at anyone who knows more than one language and can write and speak it to any degree. We Americans are backward in this regard.

And by the way, since we're being critical, this should have been posted in the Off-topic section, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with BMWs.

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Apples and oranges, my friend. True, we come here to learn, but not to correct other's grammatical errors. I'm a technical editor by profession. Where it matters, yes, English has to be grammatically correct. On this board, communication is the key. As long as you're able to convey your question or answer with some degree of comprehension, your objective has been accomplished.

Get over it. I marvel at anyone who knows more than one language and can write and speak it to any degree. We Americans are backward in this regard.

And by the way, since we're being critical, this should have been posted in the Off-topic section, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with BMWs.
And certaintly nothing to due with the E39 96-03 5 series. Oh well I once started a thread here about hobby kits, also is a mispelling technically bad grammar? Sense you're an editor I thought I'd ask. If used grammatically correctly but spelled wrong, its a spelling error and not grammatical. Or is grammar just the umbrella word for all things language
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Perhaps if we work on our carma and our breaks will fix themselves.

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Perhaps if we work on our carma and our breaks will fix themselves.

(I just cringed a little when I typed that)
My dogma ran over my carma.
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Well damn we might as well add heard and herd. Any of the god damned homophones,
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Apples and oranges, my friend. True, we come here to learn, but not to correct other's grammatical errors. I'm a technical editor by profession. Where it matters, yes, English has to be grammatically correct. On this board, communication is the key. As long as you're able to convey your question or answer with some degree of comprehension, your objective has been accomplished.

Get over it. I marvel at anyone who knows more than one language and can write and speak it to any degree. We Americans are backward in this regard.

And by the way, since we're being critical, this should have been posted in the Off-topic section, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with BMWs.
For good or for ill, we all judge or evaluate each other on some level in our daily interaction, using whatever evidence is at hand. Here the primary evidence is the written word. Everything else, we have to deduce or infer from the writer's perceived intent, making allowances for variations in the writer's background or potential disabilities.

In journalism school I was taught that you shouldn't make your readers work to understand what you're saying. It's almost a matter of respect for them. That's why grammar, spelling, and punctuation are important.

Having said that, I'm not going to make a point of correcting other members' English grammar or spelling, and I'm willing to do the extra work to help them out. I may tease someone from time to time, but at worst, I'll ignore the post.
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For good or for ill, we all judge or evaluate each other on some level in our daily interaction, using whatever evidence is at hand. Here the primary evidence is the written word. Everything else, we have to deduce or infer from the writer's perceived intent, making allowances for variations in the writer's background or potential disabilities.

In journalism school I was taught that you shouldn't make your readers work to understand what you're saying. It's almost a matter of respect for them. That's why grammar, spelling, and punctuation are important.

Having said that, I'm not going to make a point of correcting other members' English grammar or spelling, and I'm willing to do the extra work to help them out. I may tease someone from time to time, but at worst, I'll ignore the post.
bobdmac, I would really love to see you turn your "Around the country..." thread into a book. IMO, it leaves "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance," in the dust.
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Well I beg to differ...

Sometimes poor grammar can come from a lot of things that you have to take consider of..

One could be that a person just doesn't know how to type that well or try to type too fast.

Another can come from auto correction I'm sure everyone has experience this at one point if u have a "smart phone". Lol

As well as, one can be from a different country and how they pronounce thier words is how they type them...

Just because you didn't stay in school doesn't mean you can't type correct grammar, these are computers and they can correct them selfs, it's the laziness which causes a person to type or have poor grammar.

Just my .02 cents
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I can get past bad spelling. What is unforgivable is when someone posts a paragraph with absolutely no punctuation, as if the entire paragraph is one sentence. I want to tell them, "Wait! Stop! Take a breath!"
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I can get past bad spelling. What is unforgivable is when someone posts a paragraph with absolutely no punctuation, as if the entire paragraph is one sentence. I want to tell them, "Wait! Stop! Take a breath!"
You mean "Wait! Stop, take a brake!"? Lol.
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You mean "Wait! Stop, take a brake!"? Lol.
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Is anyone else wondering if Shawn ever got married?
Sean did finally end up getting married a couple of months back and moved to Vermont.
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