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Old 01-25-2015, 04:44 PM
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After being a fan of BMW for quite sometime, I am a little sad to say that there isn't one is my garage anymore. As some of you may know, I had a heavily modified 2012 550i xDrive with pretty much all the Dinan engine and suspension mods plus other items, and it had been driving great after multiple trips to the dealer for the dreaded drivetrain malfunction errors.

With the recent N63 engine campaign, I started to think if I was driving a ticking time bomb because no one has been able to determine if the engine fixes are permanent with newly designed parts or it is a temporary fix and the same issue with surface down the road. In either case, I think it will affect resale value so I began looking for a dealer willing to pay me partially for the mods. That wasn't very hard and I believe I got a very decent trade-in value for the car.

Since I need AWD for the Chicago winters, and the car has to be faster than the Dinan stage 5 550xi, my choices pretty much came down to the E63 AMG or the RS7. Test drove the RS7 and found the nose to be too heavy, albeit being very fast. Next up for the E63 AMG and this car is what I would call a German muscle car with good enough handling. It also helped that the dealer by my house had the exact color combo that I wanted and gave me almost $10k off with absolutely no negotiations. Here is a picture of my new Steel Grey E63S AMG.



I think the timing is great because I know I will buy another BMW in the future, and when this car is 3-4 years old, the new M5 hopefully with xDrive this time, will have been out for at least a couple of years. Most of the bug should have been worked out, and the demand hopefully will have decreased. I am still interested in whatever becomes of this N63 engine and will plan on visiting quite often.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:53 PM
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How is the navigation?

Dealer near me is nearly giving away E and new C class; opening bid on an S is $14k off.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:58 PM
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Nice color combo, Josey!
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:58 PM
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How is the navigation?

Dealer near me is nearly giving away E and new C class; opening bid on an S is $14k off.
I guess the navigation works. The thing I will miss most is the HUD, but the torque on this car is simply intoxicating.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:42 PM
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I guess the navigation works. The thing I will miss most is the HUD, but the torque on this car is simply intoxicating.
Congrats on the new ride . As for navigation - while the E-class screen is small it works well. Make sure to get the MB-brace app so you can send addresses to the car easily. It is a great feature.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:51 PM
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Yes, we have the mbrace app on my wife's gl550 and it works well. Just got it setup on my car today as well.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:58 AM
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I'm confused by your new car's 1/2 "stealth" 1/2 glitzy chrome look. I don't have to like the way it looks to respect it and wish you well with it though. Many happy miles.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:07 PM
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Not a big fan of the current E class design. But its hard to argue w/ your color scheme and engine choice! or 10k off list .Makes sense. Also, some comparison tests have placed the E63 ahead of the M5 in terms of steering feel.

Are the chrome door handles standard? Dont remember seeing those before.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:39 PM
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Not a big fan of the current E class design. But its hard to argue w/ your color scheme and engine choice! or 10k off list .Makes sense. Also, some comparison tests have placed the E63 ahead of the M5 in terms of steering feel.

Are the chrome door handles standard? Dont remember seeing those before.
It's a factory option that was selected when the dealer ordered the car. I am trying to get someone to take it off without damaging the paint. Apparently it's installed with double sided tape. It is starting to bother the heck out of me too.

From what i can tell in the 150 miles of driving, i like the steering feel better than my 550i xdrive, which was still a mechanical steering if i remember correctly.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:40 PM
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Perhaps next year you could trade the Mercedes in for this:
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:40 PM
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I can absolutely see myself in a 1 or 2 year-old C63 coupe after my lease is up. Those AMG muscle-engines that have low end torque for miles are a dying breed. Seems like it would be fun to own one while I still can.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:55 PM
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I can absolutely see myself in a 1 or 2 year-old C63 coupe after my lease is up. Those AMG muscle-engines that have low end torque for miles are a dying breed. Seems like it would be fun to own one while I still can.
That was exactely my thought process with the engine. The next set of amgs with all have the 4.0tt which will probably have less tunable torque. Audi has already moved to a 4.0tt and i am thinking bmw will do the same. In 3-4 years, i may move back to a m5 xdrive once they work out all the bugs. I thought ordering the 2012 f10 was going to be ok after a year and it was quite enough time.

If you are interested in the c63, you may want to check out their european deliver program. It gets the full mb ed discount and doesn't come out of dealer allocation. The mb ed program also has a great hotel program.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:16 PM
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I can absolutely see myself in a 1 or 2 year-old C63 coupe after my lease is up. Those AMG muscle-engines that have low end torque for miles are a dying breed. Seems like it would be fun to own one while I still can.
The C63 has the non-turbo 6.2 l engine. It does not have the torque non-curve that the turbo in the E63 has.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:31 PM
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The C63 has the non-turbo 6.2 l engine. It does not have the torque non-curve that the turbo in the E63 has.
No sale. I've driven NA V8 german engines and their smaller turbocharged modern replacements. The new engines have a lot going for them but the immediate urgency of a NA V8 is its own thing entirely.
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No sale. I've driven NA V8 german engines and their smaller turbocharged modern replacements. The new engines have a lot going for them but the immediate urgency of a NA V8 is its own thing entirely.
Yeah but that is not the low end torque. It is responsiveness, much like the e46 M3 is more responsive than either same-era 330s or modern turbos.
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I guess my temporary hiatus from BMW didn't last too long. I have been itching to trade the Boxster S in for something for comfortable and I found a pretty good deal on a 2014 M6 Convertible with 11K miles at a local dealer. The car is Alpine White with full Sakhir Orange interior and carbon fiber trim. Options included are competition package, executive package, drivers assistance plus, B&O sound and M light alloy wheels. The car drives great and I am still adjusting to having to pay more attention to the throttle than my AWD E63 AMG. Don't have many pictures since I have been driving around, but here are a couple. Will post more pictures later.



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Old 05-14-2015, 08:28 AM
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I have been itching to trade the Boxster S in for something for comfortable
I also had a Boxster S for a while, when I had my E53 X5. Great combination and it did make me feel like a rock star to have both of those in my garage.

But...we really think we want a thoroughbred sports car, many of us until we own one for a while. As completely awesome as the Porsche was (and it was), there wasn't that much room for it in my life. Two seater, young kids, I have bad convertible hair, etc.

There really is a case for muscular sporty grand tourers like the 6 series. For the 99.99999% of people who don't track their cars, these provide a great driving experience along with a great daily driver experience. I think you made a good choice.
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I approve of these cars.

And I want in on the business.
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Whatever OP is doing, it can't be legal...
LOL. Don't have any kids, so more toys for the adults.
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You didn't get the wagon E63s so I never suspected otherwise, neither on the kids nor the business
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I also had a Boxster S for a while, when I had my E53 X5. Great combination and it did make me feel like a rock star to have both of those in my garage.

But...we really think we want a thoroughbred sports car, many of us until we own one for a while. As completely awesome as the Porsche was (and it was), there wasn't that much room for it in my life. Two seater, young kids, I have bad convertible hair, etc.

There really is a case for muscular sporty grand tourers like the 6 series. For the 99.99999% of people who don't track their cars, these provide a great driving experience along with a great daily driver experience. I think you made a good choice.
Exactly my sentiments. The Porsche was cool and drove great when I first got it and then it got old pretty quick after that. In the 2 years that I had it, I could never find a seating position that wouldn't hurt my lower back after 45 minutes of driving and the drone on the stock sports exhaust would give me a headache. I will miss the go kart like handling of the Boxster, but a GT car like the M6 will suit my needs much better. It still feels like a dream everytime I see AMG parked next to the M.
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