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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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System Too Lean Error Codes and Others

P0171 - System Too Lean (Bank 1)
P0174 - System Too Lean (Bank 2)
P0300 - Random/Multiple Misfire Detected
P0301 - Misfire Detected (Cyl 1)
P1344 - Misfire During Start Cylinder 2
P1349 - Misfire Cylinder 4 With Fuel Cut-off
P1353 - Misfire Cylinder 6 With Fuel Cut-off

Got all that?!

So basically the car, after warming up, acts like it is about to die at idle (sitting at a light, for example).

I did a bunch of searching and came up with the following possibilities:
  1. Vacuum Leak (smoke test)
  2. Engine Control Temp Sensor (where is this?)
  3. Thermostat
  4. MAF
  5. O2 Sensor
  6. Fuel Filter
  7. Fuel Rail Pressure check
  8. Crankshaft Position Sensor
The car is a 2001 530i with 101k miles on it. Before a long 3k mile holiday trip over Christmas break (it ran beautifully, BTW), I replaced the following:
  • Cooling System - pretty much everything
  • Crankcase Ventilation System and all hoses
  • VANOS Seals
  • Spark Plugs
  • Fuel Filter
  • Oil Filter Housing Gasket
  • Valve Cover Gasket
  • Air Valve (that connects to SAS Air Pump)
  • Intake Rubber Boot
SO!

1 is something I can do although I've heard of the smoke test, not sure how to do it or if there is some kit at the local auto part store. I can Google as well.

2 is probably easy if I understood where it was...I did replace temp/level sensors while revamping the cooling system

3 was replaced with the cooling system revamp

4 I can buy some special cleaner for the MAF and try that

5 Not sure what to do about the O2 sensors...how to test?

6 Replaced recently

7 Sounds like semi-special equipment for this?

8 Not sure how to test this...but easy enough to replace

I did clear all those codes above about a week ago but the problems persist and 2 of the codes (P0174 and P1349) repeated themselves. I failed a recent smog test because like an idiot, I spaced clearing the codes. I'm kinda hoping to clear the codes before being retested just so I can get my tags and then concentrate on figuring out what the problem(s) is/are. Of course, it may throw a code during the retest and then I'm SOL again.

Thanks for any thoughts!!
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Try this. I found the vacuum leak in a matter of seconds. I know you have the I6, it may still work.

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Could you have a failing fuel injector?

You might also check your new air intake boot where it slides onto the piece near the throttle housing. I've removed mine two or three times over the past few months and always seem to have trouble getting it back together snug and tight.
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My brothers e46 has the same problem and almost 95% same codes. Im in the process of replacing the CCV with 3 different hoses. All of the hoses where brittle and spongy + im replacing the intake boots (2 of them). Waiting for 2 out of 3 hoses to be shipped to me...

I'll keep you posted if it fixes the problem.
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We really should pool our combined resources as what you're asking, I've been asking ... which is ... specifically for misfires or rough operation ... for every potentially culpable part ... point to a simple DIY test for operation of that part.

Here's a start of that:
- How to diagnose a BMW E39 engine misfire (1)

Here's one of the diagnostic trees in that post:
  1. bad fuel [air:fuel ratio]
  2. clogged fuel filter [air:fuel ratio]
  3. bad fuel pump [air:fuel ratio]
  4. clogged engine air filter [air:fuel ratio]
  5. vacuum leaks in hoses [air:fuel ratio]
  6. bad coil packs [spark]
  7. bad coil boots [spark]
  8. bad or ill fitting spark plug valve cover seals [spark]
  9. worn or fouled spark plugs [spark]
  10. bad mass air flow (MAF) sensor or meter [air:fuel ratio]
  11. bad DISA valve flap [air:fuel ratio] (1)
  12. bad DISA valve o-ring [air:fuel ratio] (1)
  13. worn fuel injector seals (o-rings) (1) (2)
  14. bad fuel injectors [air:fuel ratio]
  15. bad 02 oxygen sensors [air:fuel ratio]
  16. cracked rings [compression]
  17. bad camshaft position sensor CMP, aka CPS [spark? timing?]
  18. bad crankshaft position sensor CKP, aka CPS [spark? timing?]
  19. bad ground wires [spark]
  20. bad fuse or relay [gas, spark, timing]
  21. bad electrical wiring [gas, spark, timing]
  22. bad engine computer DME, aka ECU [spark]
  23. intake manifold gasket leak [compression, air:fuel ratio]
  24. bad crankcase oil separator valve CCV, aka PCV [air:fuel ratio]
  25. bad idle control valve ICV [air:fuel ratio]
  26. bad throttle position sensor TPS [air:fuel ratio]
  27. bad VANOS seals [compression, air:fuel ratio]
  28. head gasket leak, or a cracked block [compression, air:fuel ratio]
However, that list above is NOT a debugging algorithm!

What we need is an E39 engine misfire debugging algorithm (here's a start):
When you notice a BMW E39 engine stumble ... it's always either gas, air, spark, compression, or timing; so concentrate on factors that affect those 5 requirements!
  • If you're misfiring, immediately shut off the ignition
  • Wait 30 seconds before restarting the engine (this resets emissions-related fuel cutoffs)
  • Note the presence or absence of a yellow solid or blinking SES light
  • Scan for diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs)
    • Write down and DTC and Google that DTC for hints
    • Clear all stored DTCs to see if they return in time
  • Reset engine electronics by disconnecting the battery & crossing the cables (with a wrench) for 10 minutes (1)
  • Fill your fuel tank with gasoline from a different gasoline station
If you have a specific-cylinder misfire code:
  • Swap ignition coils between adjacent cylinders (8)
  • Swap spark plugs between adjacent cylinders.
    • If the misfire moves, replace the spark plugs
  • Swap the spark plug boots between adjacent cylinders
    • If the misfire moves, replace the spark plugs
  • Swap the fuel injectors between adjacent cylinders
    • If the misfire moves, clean or replace the fuel injectors
    • Replace the fuel-injector seals (aka o-rings) (1)
  • Check compression differences between cylinders (1)
    • If the misfire cylinder is lower than the rest, squirt heavy duty oil in the cylinder to check the rings
At this point, we're no longer dealing with specific cylinder misfires.
Now we start handling specific component tests, repairs, & replacements:
  • Temporarily remove the engine air filter
    • If the stumbling problem disappears, replace the engine air filter
  • Temporarily disconnect the MAF & drive the vehicle (1)
    • If the misfire changes, clean the MAF (replace if necessary)
  • Clean the MAF & check the hose from the MAF to the engine for leaks
  • Check for a cracked "T-connection after the MAF sensor"
    • If bad, replace the T connection
  • Test the fuel pump by jumping 30 & 87 & feeling hoses for fuel delivery (1) (8)
    • If bad, replace the fuel pump
  • Clean (or replace) the mass air flow sensor (1)
    • An overly rich fuel:air ratio can cause the ICV to stick (1)
    • A sticking ICV can lay a coat of soot on the O2 sensors (1)
  • Check for vacuum leaks
    • Run the "intake manifold vacuum leak test" (1)
    • Visually inspect all vacuum hoses
      • If any are bad, replace
      • Cracked CCV hose vacuum leaks often affect cylinders 1, 2, & 3 (1)
  • Test or clean the CCV (aka CVV oil separator valve) and its hoses (1)
    • If bad, replace the CCV
  • Test the CMP (aka CPS) camshaft position sensor (1)
    • If bad, replace the CMP
  • Test the CKP (aka CPS) crankshaft position sensor ...
    • If bad, replace the CKP
  • Test the TPS "throttle position sensor" ...
    • If bad, replace the TPS
  • Test the I6 VANOS seals (by disconnecting the harness connector)
    • It's not a bad idea to replace the I6 VANOS seals anyway
  • Test fuel delivery pressure
    • If low, replace the fuel filter
  • Clean the MAF and check the hose from the MAF to the engine for leaks or tears
  • Check for a cracked "T-connection after the MAF sensor"
    • If bad, replace
  • Check the "valve cover gaskets (VCG)
    • If bad, replace
  • Check the "intake boot" for cracks
    • If bad, replace
  • In addition to pious pleas to the Lord Jesus, go ahead, add a bottle of Seafoam or Techron concentrate to the fuel
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Double check the connection of the hoses you replaced. Maybe by mistake you left a lose connection somwhere? Maybe it even came undone?
Easy stuff first.
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Yes, that is a good first step to go over previous work. The car did run fine (excellent, actually) over the 3000 mile trip during Christmas break. Several weeks later I'm having these issues now....
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Yes, easy and cheap stuff first, mine used to do something similar until I clean the MAF. Problem solve.
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Well I took the car on a 30 minute trip last night and everything was fine...no codes thrown. I'll have a chance to do more investigative work this weekend. I'm going to TRY for the smog retest and see if she'll hold together enough for me to pass that silly thing....
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Just for curiosity, how cold was it when you got the bothering codes? And was it warmer yesterday when she run good?
Because vacuum leaks are more pronounced when the engine compartment is cold. Once warmed up, the rubbers expand and close the gaps.
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It wasn't very cold at all (I'm in the SF Bay Area). When the car is warmed up and running high speed/rpms...all seems fine. At idle when warm, things can go awry. Cold start up and cold running seem fine.
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When the car is warmed up and running high speed/rpms...all seems fine
Interestingly, here in San Jose, as you know, it was about 65 to 70 degrees a couple of days ago and now it's down in the fifties and drizzly wet ... and I got a slight stumbling ... yesterday and this morning ... but no SES (will check pending codes).

So, the anecdotal evidence of the changing temperature fooling with the computers is gaining a bit of credence with me. ...
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Random misfire code usually points to a single problem that affects the entire engine - often a vacuum leak or faulty/sluggish Oxygen sensor(s) or one of those pesky sensors for temperature or crank or cam shafts. But you have no code for them, so I would focus on vacuum. Good luck.
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Well, I didn't find any vacuum leaks as far as I could tell. All the work I did appears to be fine.

I disconnected the MAF but that didn't seem to change anything. Interestingly, if you reconnect the MAF while the engine is running, it kills the engine.

I don't really have any more time to dick with this as I'm a little bit under a SMOG test crunch (I failed it...so I have 30 days for a free retest and I'm 9 days into that) so I'm going to turn it over to my trusty indy mechanic and see if they can do better.
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If you removed the MAF clip and ran the engine--it reverted over to limp home mode--now with the codes cleared you need to drive the car for about 60 miles or so --then you can have the smog test done--
The reason it failed is the monitors that need to be checked won't come back on board until the 60
road trip has reset the computer for the monitors to start their funtion again--when ever you reset codes
you'll have to drive the car 60 miles for everything to come back up again--Hope that helps
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SMOG test crunch .
Hi Ågent99,
Can you post your before/after smog test results here:
- E39 emissions smog test results

We'd all benefit from the comparisons.
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If you removed the MAF clip and ran the engine--it reverted over to limp home mode--now with the codes cleared you need to drive the car for about 60 miles or so --then you can have the smog test done--
The reason it failed is the monitors that need to be checked won't come back on board until the 60
road trip has reset the computer for the monitors to start their funtion again--when ever you reset codes
you'll have to drive the car 60 miles for everything to come back up again--Hope that helps
Yes, this helps a lot...wasn't sure what kind of miles I need to put on the car to have everything ready for the smog test.
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Hi Ågent99,
Can you post your before/after smog test results here:
- E39 emissions smog test results

We'd all benefit from the comparisons.
You bet!
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Problem apparently solved!!

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...11&fg=40&hl=14 Item #7: Adjuster Unit, 11 61 7 544 805.

This little baby helps regulate the air into the air/fuel mixture. It simply has a "flapper" valve that spins to whatever air intake amount is called for.

Using a smoke test, it was found that the factory "weld/seal" on the rectangular box was leaking pretty decently.

The shop printed out several diagnostic reports from the DME and it was found to be adding a lot of extra fuel to the air/fuel mixture in order to provide the appropriate mixture and this caused all kinds of misfire codes and fuel cut-offs. After replacement, the fuel is back to normal.

I've actually noticed an increase in power from the engine and I expect gas mileage to increase as well.

Now I need to put ~75 miles on the engine to get all the various systems ready for a smog retest.

I paid $187.50 in shop diagnostic time, $246.87 for the part, and $71.23 to install it for a total of $528.44 (including tax).

So in a nutshell: vacuum leak.
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I paid $187.50 in shop diagnostic time, $246.87 for the part, and $71.23 to install it for a total of $528.44 (including tax)
DISA = dual resonance intake system (closes in midrange, open otherwise) to get more mid-range torque

Well, the "good" news is that the DISA valve is one of the items on the misfire diagnostic tree to check (along with unspecified "vacuum leaks").
- How to diagnose a BMW E39 engine misfire (1)

We all should be checking our DISA valve because, under the worst circumstances, the thing can ruin your engine!
- DISA VALVE FLAP BREAKS: the DISA valve flap breaks (1), sometimes with parts sucked into the intake manifold (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) or the disa valve o-ring fails (1) (2) & where to get just the DISA valve o-ring (1) & when the DISA valve flap closes (1) (2) & an example of how this can ruin your engine (1)

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I've actually noticed an increase in power from the engine and I expect gas mileage to increase as well.
Hmmmmm... only in the midrange should you notice a difference.


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Smog Test of California officially PASSED!

So numbers from the FAILED test in which my DISA valve was allowing extra air into the system:

---------------%CO2--%O2-------HC (PPM)-------------CO (%)-----------NO (PPM)----
Test ---RPM---MEAS--MEAS--MAX--AVE--MEAS---MAX--AVE--MEAS---MAX--AVE--MEAS
15 mph 1570---15.2---0.0-----51----4-----13----0.48---0.01--0.06----419---16-----4
25 mph 1706---15.3---0.0-----35----4-----06----0.46---0.01--0.01----706---18----21

Now from the PASSED test with fixed DISA:

---------------%CO2--%O2-------HC (PPM)-------------CO (%)-----------NO (PPM)----
Test ---RPM---MEAS--MEAS--MAX--AVE--MEAS---MAX--AVE--MEAS---MAX--AVE--MEAS
15 mph 1582---15.3---0.0-----51----4-----03----0.48---0.01--0.01----419---16----22
25 mph 1665---15.1---0.3-----35----4-----01----0.46---0.01--0.02----706---18---108
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Oh, it took about 90-95 miles for the CAT to be ready for the smog test. I had to take it out for a spin this morning...scan...drive some more...scan....
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Smog Test of California officially PASSED!

Hi Ågent99,
Thanks for posting those numbers; I've added them to the smog test thread.

One question ...

Looking at your numbers, NONE seem to be failures (either before or after the DISA valve replacement).

What was the "stated" reason for the California smog test failure?
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I'm not sure yet why Ågent99 failed the smog test (because all the numbers seem to be a PASS); but here are just the California comparisons copied over from the other thread (since they're all tested the same way).

Note: The "limits" in California are not only based on the engine specifics, but also the locale where you are registered (some have more stringent limits than others).

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- Northern California (bluebee), 2002 525i, 87 AKI (just after rebuilding the ABS control module)
- Northern California (bluebee), 2002 525i, 91 AKI (after clearing P0500 code & driving for two weeks)
- Northern California (Ågent99), unknown E39 (before and after replacing DISA valve which caused failed smog tests)
- Southern California (Gian), 2002 530i
- Southern California (bugratu), 1997 528i
- Southern California (bugratu), 1997 528i (after adding CRC "Guaranteed to Pass Smog Test", plugs, engine air filter)
- Southern California (+moulin), 2002 530i 5-spd 105K
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HYDROCARBONS:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0 ppm (limit = 52 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 9 ppm (limit = 52 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 13 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 3 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 58 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 9 ppm) FAIL
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 90 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 9 ppm) FAIL
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0 ppm (limit = 51 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0 ppm (limit = 36 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 2 ppm (limit = 36 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 6 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 1 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 34 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 7 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 35 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 7 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0 ppm (limit = 35 ppm, avg = 4 ppm), PASS
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Carbon Monoxide:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.00% (limit = 0.49%, avg = 0.01%), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 0.01% (limit = 0.49%, avg = 0.01%), 97AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 0.06% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 0.01% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 0.01% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 0.14% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.02%), PASS
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 0.28% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.02%), PASS
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0.00% (limit = 0.48%, avg = 0.01%), PASS

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.00% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), 97AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), Bad DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 0.02% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), New DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 0.01% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 0.14% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.03%), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0.07% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.03%), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0.00% (limit = 0.46%, avg = 0.01%), PASS
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Nitrogen Oxides:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 21 ppm (limit = 424 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 53 ppm (limit = 424 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 4 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 22 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 14 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 354 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 57 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 161 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 57 ppm), PASS
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 3 ppm (limit = 419 ppm, avg = 16 ppm), PASS

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 25 ppm (limit = 711 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), 87AKI, PASS
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 63 ppm (limit = 711 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI), PASS
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 21 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), Bad DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 108 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), New DISA, PASS
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 1 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 72 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 50 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 50 ppm), PASS
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 5 ppm (limit = 706 ppm, avg = 18 ppm),PASS
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Carbon Dioxide:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 15.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 15.1% (no limit provided), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI)
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 15.2% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 15.3% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 14.9% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 14.88% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 14.4% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 15.0% (no limit provided)

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 15.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 15.1% (no limit provided), 91AKI (worse than 87AKI)
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 15.3% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 15.1% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 14.9% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 14.90% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 14.5% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 15.0% (no limit provided)
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Oxygen:
- 15mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 15mph (2445 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 91AKI
- 15mph (1570 rpm): Ågent99: 0.0% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 15mph (1582 rpm): Ågent99: 0.0% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 15mph (1757 rpm): gian: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1784 rpm): bugratu: 0.03% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1798 rpm): bugratu: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 15mph (1540 rpm): +moulin: 0.0% (no limit provided)

- 25mph (2400 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 87AKI
- 25mph (2393 rpm): bluebee: 0.0% (no limit provided), 91AKI
- 25mph (1706 rpm): Ågent99: 0.0% (no limit provided), Bad DISA
- 25mph (1665 rpm): Ågent99: 0.3% (no limit provided), New DISA
- 25mph (1279 rpm): gian: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1718 rpm): bugratu: 0.02% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1767 rpm): bugratu: 0.0% (no limit provided)
- 25mph (1717 rpm): +moulin: 0.0% (no limit provided)
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