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Old 01-31-2011, 06:43 PM
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Engine life expectancy for 3.0i (M54B30)

Dear forum members,

I'm all new to this forum since I don't own but I'm going to get 2006 X3 3.0i. The car currently has 63.000 Miles and fairly priced. I have been doing a lot of research online regarding the M54B30 engine and what i have found is that with proper maintenance and normal driving conditions (mainly with low abuse) the engine can last easily over 150K (miles). Highest reported was 300K (miles) with no problems (various car models). What experience have you forum members had with this engine in your X3 and what is your current mileage?

Thank you for your feedback,

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Old 01-31-2011, 08:56 PM
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I have two M54B30 engines, both at ~100K kms (60K miles). I'm doing all the maintenance now with expectations that they will both get to at least 200K kms (120K miles).
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:19 PM
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2004 X3 3.0i. Currently at 148,xxx miles. Love this car!! I've owned this X3 since it was new. List of repairs include a transfer case actuator motor, starter, expansion tank, thermostat, radiator flush, brake fluid flush, a couple of sets of brakes, lots of oil and a couple of set of tires. I've done all the maintenance since the warranty expired almost 100,000 miles ago. Very easy to work on. Like I said, I love this car!! Hope this helps. Cheers.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:17 PM
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The M5X series motors have generally been quite reliable. I've seen M52TUs (which are very similar to M54s) with 300k miles on them still running strong. As long as you do the proper maintenance, the engine should really be the last thing to worry about.

My old 330i ZHP (which has an engine very similar to yours - only difference is the intake cam) was still running very strong when I got rid of it at 115k miles. I had it dyno'd at 90k miles, and it was still making as much power as it's supposed to new.
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Old 02-01-2011, 06:17 AM
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-- it is bayerische Motoren werke after all. They make their Motoren pretty well -- ok except for the high pressure fool pump N54 dealy. But still...

seriously, tho. I really love the engine in my X
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Old 02-01-2011, 06:46 AM
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I have two M54B30 engines, both at ~100K kms (60K miles). I'm doing all the maintenance now with expectations that they will both get to at least 200K kms (120K miles).
It would be shocking if they did anything less than twice your current expectations.

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Old 02-01-2011, 06:54 AM
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It would be shocking if they did anything less than twice your current expectations.

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It is just everything else you have to worry about, especially AT if you get that.


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Old 02-01-2011, 08:06 AM
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engine longevity

The engine will last many many miles, like most modern day engines IF they are properly maintained. I don't even give that a second thought. If however you are relating engine life with low cost of ownership you are making a mistake. You will have to do more than recommended general maintenance. Plus there are common failures and repairs that will have to be made at some point. Such as, CCV system, DISA valve suspension etc of which discussions all can be found here. A BMW is not a low cost of ownership vehicle but they are F U N to drive.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:48 AM
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Thumbs up thanks everyone for the input

Thanks everyone for the input and a good insight regarding this engine. My reason to be mainly asking about the engine only is because i honestly expect everything else to wear and tear with normal use. I understand that cost of ownership is there more than less, but i have been into and owned European cars (Audi, VW) and now my interest for BMW. I got rid of my 2000 Audi A6 (2.8L, 130,000 miles) with minimal problems and bought a new VW Passat 2.0t. I just love the look, feel and size of the X3 and after reading everyones input i feel much more comfortable about my decision in getting the X3. This forum has been very helpful and i have become a full time member for all of my BMW needs and info regarding my future X3.

Thanks to all of the forum members and i appreciate their feedback!!

Bring on the Ultimate driving machine...

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Old 02-24-2016, 06:24 AM
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I have a 2001 530i with 186,00 miles. I have had it three months with no engine or other problems yet. Did oil 5w30 change full synthetic ,brake fluid,cooling fluid, ATF steering change plus numerious trim =minor fixes ex. cup holders front & added rear. It is my every day car so we will see how it works out---- Infinintly better than the 2002 Ford Escort I was driving . So far all cost 5 grand. plan shocks, wheel bearings, all sensor replacement
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Old 02-24-2016, 08:28 AM
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I just had my 100K service on my 2006 X3.

My indy mechanic told me that with proper maintenance, the engine should easily go to 200K and beyond.
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:12 AM
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While I was shopping around I test drove a couple of X5's with a M54B30 with close to 300k miles out of curiosity. They were doing pretty good.
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:50 PM
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Just came across this ol' thread browsing the intrewebbers. I sold my 02 530i M Sport with 99k miles because the serp belt and a bunch of other maintenance items were due. I then bought an 00 528i with 202k miles on it, still drove like a dream. Sold it with 230k miles on it. Last month I bought another 02 530i M Sport with 176k miles. It's been very well maintained and I expect it to go to 250k miles no problem. As previously said, it's all the other problems with the car that will drive you crazy.

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Old 03-17-2016, 06:20 AM
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My 2006 just crossed 151,000 on the odometer. Up until last year it's been extremely reliable, and I'm not at all upset that it's requiring work now after many faithful years of service. Bought it in 2009 as a CPO with a 100k mile extended service/warranty.

BMW serviced several common issues as a preventative measure as my CPO 100k warranty was expiring. They addressed a valve cover gasket issue, the oil filler gasket, and shortly thereafter replaced the DISA on goodwill because was less than 1,000 miles after my last warranty service. It was extremely reliable right until recently, and I now I suspect that the DC-area's poor road conditions, the heavy snow in February, and 10 years of commuting and age have taken a fair toll.

Was recently in for "Inspection 2" at the dealership (BMW of Fairfax) and they noted the following issues. They said I have a very minor leak on the engine oil pan (I cleaned the pan off in my driveway and haven't seen any evidence of a leak in the week since). They also said the lower radiator hose is leaking at temperature (which actually appears to be an o-ring issue with the sensor). And claimed that the oil seal for the final drive input flange is seeping. I'll admit that I'm totally ignorant of the last issue, and wouldn't know where to look to verify the problem...transfer case, differential, transmission?

Anyway, I'm chasing a random thunking noise in the rear suspension still, but otherwise I've been very pleased in ownership. I'm very happy I found Bimmerfest recently, as it's a trove of useful information.

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Old 03-17-2016, 06:34 AM
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300k miles if you dont overheat it is no issue, they last until you tire of getting nickle & dimed due to the cars age
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:14 PM
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I recently purchased my 1st BMW 2 months ago for $3,000. It's a 2001 325i and by the looks of things, poor maintenance and upkeep with 183k on the motor but even so it was still running strong. Hit 90 on the highways easy and seemed to beg for more. However the CVV failed 2 days ago and my local BMW dealership gave me a list of things that were wrong, which i was completely expecting simply because of the lack of care on the car. As others have stated, these motors are great and will last 150k+ miles. The M54 series of motors have been proven to be highly durable its just everything else you have to pay attention to. In my case this is what i have to deal with in addition to my CVV:

Transmission Pan Gasket Leak
Drive Belt(s) Worn
Valve Cover Gaskets Leaking Oil
Moderate Leak - Power Steering
Front Struts/Rear Shocks Worn
Oil Pan Gasket Leaking Oil
Trans Cooler Line Leaking
Control Arm Bushing Leaking
Brake Fluid Dirty/Discolored

To be honest I never would have known about this had the CVV not failed and smoke started billowing from the exhaust. Only thing i ever noticed wrong was a single drop or 2 of trans fluid and oil sitting in my driveway over night every once in a while.

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Old 05-22-2016, 07:09 PM
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1) this is the x3 forum, not the E46 forum.

2) 150k is nothing for an M54, they are easily capable of 300k or more.

3) all those items you mentioned are usually replaced around 100k miles.

4) there's no such thing as CVV. You mean the CCV system, which degrades over time due to infrequent (factory approved) oil change intervals coupled with short driving trips. Fortunately, it is easy to replace on the M54, and relatively cheap.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:28 PM
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Ding ding ding...

Although the e83 shares so much the e46 I believe in full inclusion.

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Old 05-22-2016, 10:02 PM
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there's no such thing as CVV. You mean the CCV system, .......
Since the advent of the automobile, crankcase has always been 1-word, not 2.

Hence, Crankcase Vent Valve (CVV) is certainly correct.

You just need to think about what PCV stands for!

The power of the internet has bastardized the term into CCV for BMW forums which I have to sort of accept, but it doesn't make sense.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:27 PM
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The abbreviation may not align with the words, but if anyone were to try and do a search for "CVV" parts they'll come up empty. No need to further muddy the waters. Much the same way people refer to the rocker cover (or the cam cover) as the "valve cover."
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I wouldnt focus so much on that engine as how long... but "A" engine for how long.

i had a m20 with 476k+
i have a m52 with 214
i have a m62 with 211
i have a m54 with 156

they have no shelf life... they have a "ran it out of oil date" and a "overheated it" sell by date
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Old 05-24-2016, 02:03 AM
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actually your head gasket will fail before 520k (*with out overheating or beating)

you will need a timing job by 300k
you will need a every gasket job by 250k
you will need a bottem end in chassis around 350-400k
but you can slap a set of rods in there on the weekend and still make it to where ever you have to go
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I own a 2005 X3 that I purchased new. I am now approaching 180K miles, and it runs like a champ. Over the past 30K miles I have replaced both pre-cat O2 sensors, a front wheel bearing and 2 leaking fuel injectors. Other issues I have had past 100K miles was the valve cover gasket, oil filter housing gasket, coolant expansion tank (due to leaking), coolant temperature sensor (due to leaking), windshield washer pumps (due to leaking). At 100K miles I performed all recommend fluid changes.

I live in the northeast and recently my mechanic showed me the underside of the car on a lift, I was so impressed that there was no rust after 16 years!

Overall this has been the best car I have every owned, and I keep all of my cars past 100K miles. At this point in its life I haven't invested enough money in repairs to warrant replacing it with a new vehicle.

In closing, it uses no oil between oil changes and I think it will reach 200K miles and I would think easily reach 250K miles. I only question if the GM transmission will last that long.

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Engine life expectancy for 3.0i (M54B30)

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I own a 2005 X3 that I purchased new. I am now approaching 180K miles, and it runs like a champ. Over the past 30K miles I have replaced both pre-cat O2 sensors, a front wheel bearing and 2 leaking fuel injectors. Other issues I have had past 100K miles was the valve cover gasket, oil filter housing gasket, coolant expansion tank (due to leaking), coolant temperature sensor (due to leaking), windshield washer pumps (due to leaking). At 100K miles I performed all recommend fluid changes.



I live in the northeast and recently my mechanic showed me the underside of the car on a lift, I was so impressed that there was no rust after 16 years!



Overall this has been the best car I have every owned, and I keep all of my cars past 100K miles. At this point in its life I haven't invested enough money in repairs to warrant replacing it with a new vehicle.



In closing, it uses no oil between oil changes and I think it will reach 200K miles and I would think easily reach 250K miles. I only question if the GM transmission will last that long.



Jeff


The not using oil is a direct result of proper break-im and subsequent maintenance... at your level, you';re fine. As long as the transmissoin has had its trasmission and filter changeed with 50k miles, your also fine.
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