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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 02-07-2011, 06:29 PM
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Speaking of the P-car... this is from a post over on Planet 9 Porsche forum. The subject from the OP was about still being in love with his Porsche after 30 days. Here's an additional post in that thread:

"Re: Day 30 of owner ship... Still smitten
Enjoy in the best of health. I have had my car for more than a year and still feel the same way I felt a year ago; it must be the manual transmission"

So - it ain't just BMW's! Even though the PDK is quickly becoming quite popular on ALL Porsche models, the MT still has a strong place, and the good folks from Stuttgart definitely get it!

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Old 02-08-2011, 09:30 AM
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If any other manufacturer could challenge the "Ultimate Driving Machine" slogan it would be Porsche!
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:40 PM
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If any other manufacturer could challenge the "Ultimate Driving Machine" slogan it would be Porsche!
Maybe. But I'd say Caterham gets to take that title.
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:56 PM
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I thought they were just kit car knock offs of the lotus 7? Course the new SP100 might be interesting, if they can get it running.
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:07 AM
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Maybe. But I'd say Caterham gets to take that title.
Only on sunny days --- would not be the ultimate anything in bad weather, but misery.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:21 AM
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Kind of driving a old Mog trike with a big hairy twin Matchless cycle engine hanging on the front end I guess.

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Old 02-10-2011, 12:08 PM
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I never said it was a practical purchase. :P

But if I had the luxury of living the life of a track rat, I'd be driving a Caterham.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:38 AM
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And what would your tow/support vehicle be? I'm guessing, but probably a big domestic SUV/crew cab P/U.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:55 AM
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And what would your tow/support vehicle be? I'm guessing, but probably a big domestic SUV/crew cab P/U.
My ancient Land Cruiser of course.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:58 AM
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That would do nicely, as long as the cooling system holds up (you did say ancient).
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Old 02-12-2011, 06:33 AM
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Maybe. But I'd say Caterham gets to take that title.
Actually it's a tie between the Ariel Atom, Superformance S1 and the Donkervoort, but only on a dry, sunny day.
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:46 AM
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I love it! The more obscure the better. They all seem to be based on the Lotus in some way too. I vote for the Allard J2x Mk II.
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I got to drive an Atom at PIR last July. Pure fun.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:22 PM
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I have a Q about Porsche Cayenne with manual transmission.
Does it still have hand parking brake or some kind of button like new X3?
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Old 02-15-2011, 09:46 AM
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Good question, I would bet it still has the hand brake.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:51 PM
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Good question, I would bet it still has the hand brake.
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:12 PM
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Has anyone here actually driven a Cayenne with the base engine? I have and instantly eliminated it. It is a VW engine and is pretty crude (agricultural even) compared to the Porsche powerplants.
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Old 02-17-2011, 06:44 AM
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good pickup mhrir. Still I'd rather have the oldfashioned stickshift in the middle of the console than the oldfashioned handbrake -- if I had to choose. Nice thing is I dont have to on my manual E83. Theyre both right there.

About that engine -- I think it is different from the one in the base panamera. The panamera's has been praised for being worthy of the porsche marque. Output is the same I think. There is an audio file on the configurator each different model. The cayenne's six sounds pretty good I thought.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:15 AM
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The Panamera V6 is the V8 minus 2 cylinders and is a "real" Porsche motor. Porsche didn't have a V6 when the Cayenne came out which is how they got stuck with the VW motor. I have read that Porsche wants to put the Panamera V6 in the Cayenne but have a contract with VW for their engine for a couple more years.

The VW V6 is not a good unit and has been repeated panned by the automotive press. It makes no sense to buy the V6 for the manual when you should be buying a Porsche for its dynamics.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:23 AM
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Since Porsche is now part of VW I suspect that the "contract" to provide the V6 (which is supposed to have been "breathed upon" by Porsche -- 300 hp) would be easy to abrogate if they could produce enough Panamera V6's to fill the much greater quantity needed for the Cayenne.

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Old 02-18-2011, 08:46 PM
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Has anyone here actually driven a Cayenne with the base engine? I have and instantly eliminated it. It is a VW engine and is pretty crude (agricultural even) compared to the Porsche powerplants.
Agree with this. I too, test drove a V6 with MT and it did nothing for me. Was quite unimpressed.
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:48 AM
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You are talking about the '11 Cayenne here? Granted previous years were almost slugs but the new lightened, up powered, Cayenne V6 is different.
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Old 02-19-2011, 09:32 AM
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Yes, I have driven the 2011. The V6 does have a bit more power but your missing the point that it is an unrefined engine compared to any Porsche engine. Go drive one and find out for yourself.
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Old 02-19-2011, 11:06 AM
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I have and I like it a lot. I don't find it "unrefined" rather it is very much like the Audi V6 which is quite smooth IMHO. Is it the Porsche Canamera V6? No, but that is an exceptional engine IMHO and I am sure that it will make an appearance in the Cayenne sooner rather than later. Perhaps since they are all in the same family now Porsche will allow VW/Audi to produce it on their much larger engine line.
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Or what about a Touareg as an alternative? Or is VW too plebeian? I am 50/50 on that.... The Cayenne has more "it" appeal then the X3 that's for sure.
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