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Old 09-05-2015, 03:05 PM
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Should 5 series need foot on the gas to advance in D?

This may sound silly --

On a smooth flat surface when I power on my 535 and engage either D or R it does not advance until I press down on the gas. Releasing my foot of the gas will basically bring the car to a stop.

I thought this was the expected behavior till I drove someone else's BMW the other day (Same model) and noticed that just releasing my foot of the brake is enough for it to advance without me even touching the gas (Either in D or in R).

Which behavior is the correct one?

Any idea what's going on?
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Old 09-05-2015, 03:31 PM
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This may sound silly --

On a smooth flat surface when I power on my 535 and engage either D or R it does not advance until I press down on the gas. Releasing my foot of the gas will basically bring the car to a stop.

I thought this was the expected behavior till I drove someone else's BMW the other day (Same model) and noticed that just releasing my foot of the brake is enough for it to advance without me even touching the gas (Either in D or in R).

Which behavior is the correct one?

Any idea what's going on?
On a smooth, flat surface the car should move forward/reverse until the engine's torque can't overcome whatever drag the torque converter encounters; such as a grade. The 535 (i or d) should have enough torque to move the car at least at 5ish mph.
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:07 PM
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Depends on engine idle speed.
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:22 PM
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Depends on engine idle speed.
Which should be high enough to move even a little.......
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:44 PM
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Which should be high enough to move even a little.......
From a cold start, yes. But from a warm engine it should be right on the threshold. If the OP's car idles smoothly, he should just count it as a plus.
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:52 PM
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Should 5 series need foot on the gas to advance in D?

Back in the day, when the cars were simple and easy to work on, you could adjust the idle throttle level easily...wouldn't even know where to start looking on our cars.
Anyway, your car should start moving after releasing the brake without the need to depress the gas pedal. Just like every other car with automatic transmission. What you are describing is similar to a SMG or double clutch tranny behavior.
Have the dealer take a look at it, unless you prefer it this way of course.

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Old 09-05-2015, 04:54 PM
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Thanks -- well mine doesn't actually move -- checked my friends again and his does on the very same street.

Defect?

Any thoughts what could be wrong?
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:57 PM
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I agree with everyone. Your car should move forward and back just using the idle speed.
I use Auto H and the car will not roll at all until gas pedal is pushed but I don't think that is your problem based on your question.
Another possible cause would be a stuck brake caliper. Just a thought
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Old 09-06-2015, 11:03 AM
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This may be obvious and the poster above me mentioned it, but are you sure your "AUTO HOLD" is not engaged? That behavior sounds exactly like its engaged.
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Old 09-06-2015, 03:46 PM
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Agreeing with others, smooth flat surface when releasing break your car should crawl forward unless Auto H is in play.
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Old 09-06-2015, 07:03 PM
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This may be obvious and the poster above me mentioned it, but are you sure your "AUTO HOLD" is not engaged? That behavior sounds exactly like its engaged.
Best first post I've ever seen. n00b schools a whole page of vets.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:49 AM
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Best first post I've ever seen. n00b schools a whole page of vets.

Indeed!
Such n00bs are always welcomed

(I do hope that the OP knows about the feature and didn't have auto hold engaged)
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Old 09-07-2015, 01:43 PM
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Why don't you just take it to the dealership service folks and get it examined? I do that whenever in doubt and it makes for less stress.
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:19 AM
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Thanks -- well mine doesn't actually move -- checked my friends again and his does on the very same street.

Defect?

Any thoughts what could be wrong?
How many miles on your car?
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:52 AM
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Best first post I've ever seen. n00b schools a whole page of vets.
Auto Hold doesn't retain its setting through restarts, or so I thought: does it?
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Old 09-08-2015, 09:01 AM
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Doesn't stay on after restart on my 2015.


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Old 09-08-2015, 09:09 AM
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Doesn't stay on after restart on my 2015.
It didn't on my 2011, but wasn't sure if things had changed.

So it's either idle speed or perhaps an issue with the torque converter.
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Old 09-09-2015, 09:47 AM
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Best first post I've ever seen. n00b schools a whole page of vets.
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Indeed!
Such n00bs are always welcomed

(I do hope that the OP knows about the feature and didn't have auto hold engaged)
Thanks for the warm welcome guys .
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