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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016)
The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 04-11-2017, 02:25 AM
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Don't like the sensation when putting in Drive

When I put the car in Drive and continue to hold the brake, the nose of the car rises and the back lowers. I find this bothering as I haven't seen in Audi or VW.

Have you also noticed this? Could it be just in my car? The car is out of warranty now.
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:19 AM
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When I put the car in Drive and continue to hold the brake, the nose of the car rises and the back lowers.

You mean like a boat?
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Old 04-11-2017, 04:03 AM
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Something similar. I can feel the Drive mode engaging, trying to push the car forward and because I'm holding the brake it doesn't. However the front of the car seems to rise and the back to lower. As I'd be leaning back in the seat.
I don't feel this with an audi.
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Old 04-11-2017, 04:40 AM
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Something similar. I can feel the Drive mode engaging, trying to push the car forward and because I'm holding the brake it doesn't. However the front of the car seems to rise and the back to lower. As I'd be leaning back in the seat.
I don't feel this with an audi.

A BMW can be eager.....rpm?
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Old 04-11-2017, 04:51 AM
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Our 1993 E34 did that. I always loved it, reminded me of a sprinter getting ready for a race. But it was subtle, only passengers would have known.
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A BMW can be eager.....rpm?
+1. Sounds like the engine baseline rpm is high. Is this when the car is cold and rpm may be temporarily a little higher?
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:44 AM
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It's more like a shock or wave felt through the car for a second. No noise. The engine vibrates a bit stronger though.
Rpm is constant, idling, under 1000. I'm refferring strictly at the moment D is engaged.

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It's more like a shock or wave felt through the car for a second. No noise. The engine vibrates a bit stronger though.
Rpm is constant, idling, under 1000. I'm refferring strictly at the moment D is engaged.
Depending on the mileage and age of your car, maybe it's time to get your transmission fluid flushed? Have you checked the transmission fluid level?
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I am thinking about the engine/transmission mounts. I have never flushed the fluid. Car has 100k miles. Changing from 1st to 2nd gear is usually rough if the acceleration is slow. If I'm accelerating hard, the shift is not noticeable. Like being rearended if the rpm is higher. But no noises.
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Old 04-11-2017, 08:21 AM
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My 07 E60 does that but that usually when it's first started. I wait till rpms drop below 1000 and then I wait a couple more minutes before driving. I had the 2nd to 1st jerk when stopping but I hooked up INPA and reset transmittion and I never feel the down shift now and my shifts are smoother and seem a little quicker.

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I am thinking about the engine/transmission mounts. I have never flushed the fluid. Car has 100k miles. Changing from 1st to 2nd gear is usually rough if the acceleration is slow. If I'm accelerating hard, the shift is not noticeable. Like being rearended if the rpm is higher. But no noises.
I'd guess mounts too. I'm not sure how visible they are in your car, but ordinarily you can roll under and check them out.
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I'd guess mounts too. I'm not sure how visible they are in your car, but ordinarily you can roll under and check them out.

n8s 330xi, you are very, very, very, very slender.

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Depending on the mileage and age of your car, maybe it's time to get your transmission fluid flushed? Have you checked the transmission fluid level?

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The first thing to check.
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When I put the car in Drive and continue to hold the brake, the nose of the car rises and the back lowers. I find this bothering as I haven't seen in Audi or VW.

Have you also noticed this? Could it be just in my car? The car is out of warranty now.
Is this happening at a cold start? It's normal for engine RPMs to be slightly higher than when at operating temperatures. In cold start instances, at a slightly higher engine RPM, the car might seem to lurch forward (nose rising). But, IMHO it should not occur at normal operating temps and correct engine idle RPM (~750rpm or so).

IF it happens at every instance (hot or cold) something might be amiss. I'd start with ensuring the engine is running at the correct RPM ... if there are no additional transmission issues (slipping/jerky shifts, etc) you should investigate loose or worn parts as previously posted - mounts, struts, etc.
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n8s 330xi, you are very, very, very, very slender.

And agile! Getting that shield off w/o a lift requires dexterity
Drive-on ramps, man. One of the best tools I've ever invested in.
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The torque converters in the transmission work as a pump for the car, they also engage and disengage the transmission from the gear sets. On a cold start with a higher rpm this will be more noticeable as they are producing more hydraulic pressure and therefor trying to move the car forward. The car seeming to squat in the rear is because even In the X drive the car is basically a rear wheel drive car and the torque applied to the rear axle under brake drives the read end of the car down. Watch a drag car launch and you'll understand what I'm talking about. An Audi on the other hand for most of their models are primarily a front wheel drive car that in the all wheel drive variants use a transfer case to power the rear wheel. This set up in the Audi really doesn't produce the squatting like a rear drive does. Coming from primarily front drive cars to a rear drive such as the BMW will make this sensation feel much more pronounced. You might just want a good mechanic to give his opinion as to what your feeling if it is excessive or not.

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Old 04-12-2017, 06:45 PM
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normal... its an electronic system and the transmission design is different from the typical auto box.
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