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Old 02-20-2014, 02:20 PM
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Had to jump start

I have a 2002 BMW x5 and unfort the battery was weak and died during a cold night 2 nights ago i had to get a boost from another car to get to work. When i got to work i noticed my doors wouldnt lock when i turned the key only the drivers door locked. I then noticed my wipers wouldnt turn on nor would it spray windshield fluid also i cant get my hatch door in the back open either, all this after getting a jump start.

i checked all the fuses in glove department fuse #40 for wipers is good as well as all others , i went to the back and checked those fuses which turned out good.

IS THERE ANY RELAYS I MAY HAVE TO CHECK ? PLEASE IM STUCK AND NEED SOME HELP/ADVICE. APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE IN ADVANCE - THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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Old 02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
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ANY FUSIBLE LINKS ON THIS CAR THAT COULD OF POPPED FROM JUMP START?
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:35 AM
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First, can we assume that you jumped started using the terminals in the engine bay, right? Or did you hook directly to the battery?

Second, a deeply discharged battery may not be fully charged (even though you got the vehicle started)...if the vehicle's battery still has low voltage, it can't perform as it should and some electronic gremlins can occur.

Have you checked the battery's voltage? Let the car set for approx 2 hours (or perform some of the other tips below that will remove any surface charge from the battery)...then perform OBC TEST 9 (with ignition in position 1 & door closed)...or use a multi-meter and check the battery. If the voltage is at 11.89 volts...the battery is at 0% state of charge...and may perform some functions but will not have enough "juice" to perform at its optimum:


Again, I'd make sure that the problem isn't a discharged or damaged battery (from being discharged) that's the culprit.
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:02 AM
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Unfort I jumped it direct to the battery because how I was parked , this battery has gave me this problem twice before and I did this with no problems . I'm guessing I might of blew something this time , or like you say first step is get a new battery . Any past experiences appreciate it
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:59 PM
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Battery may have a bad cell n it will do crazy things. My experience it is best to have a new battery. I buy mine at autozone so I get the 3 year warranty. I just replaced mine under warranty after a cold spell in ohio. The old battery tested fine but only 65% charge which caused crazy issues.

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Old 02-21-2014, 07:16 PM
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you should never jump start directly from the battery, you could get voltage spikes to valuable modules and fry them.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:25 AM
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Unfort I jumped it direct to the battery because how I was parked , this battery has gave me this problem twice before and I did this with no problems . I'm guessing I might of blew something this time , or like you say first step is get a new battery . Any past experiences appreciate it
If you find that the battery is not keeping a charge, or is damaged from deep disharge, or is old and time to be replaced...as been discussed across multiple BMW forums (at least the 8 I'm on) since the Polar Vortex made it's journey this way mid December...the replacement battery class size to look for is 49/H8 or 95R/H9.

There are 3 big battery manufactures in the USA that make most of the major battery brands:
  1. Johnson Controls
  2. Excide
  3. East Penn (DEKA)

You can find prices ranging from around $100-$300...and the specs are mostly the same regardless of which brand name (or mfg)...but the warranty and prices are across the board.

My (repeated) suggestions for battery replacement is to shop around for what's available in your area in the 49/H8 battery class size. If you have specific requirements due to increased need for electrical power...you may want to spend more for a 95R/H9 battery. Also consider the warranty & availability to take advantage of the warranty (how many locations and if they have a national database in case you're out of town and need to replace your battery). This is why many BMW owners mention the Autozone Duralast 49/H8 Platinum (AGM) or Duralast H8 Gold...they're almost in every state and have a national database.

But you also have Costco (Kirkland brand) or Sams Club (Duracell brand) which are national as well. But Advanced Auto, Pep Boys, O'Reilly's, NAPA, Walmart (Everstart Maxx), Interstate, Sears (DieHard)...and many more vendors sell 49/H8 or 95R/H9 batteries. Again, it's your choice as to how much you want to pay etc.

Below is an East Penn battery class size chart...you can see the 4 major specs (highlighted columns at top of chart:Reserve Capacity/Cold Cranking Amps/Amp Hour/Cranking Amps) and the 49/H8 & 95R/H9 battery class size...as well as the next step down (48/H6 & 94R/H7) battery, and what their specs are in comparison:

(Johnson Control, Exide, and East Penn batteries will all have the same basic specs when comparing battery class size)

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Old 02-22-2014, 12:07 PM
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nice info again qsilver7 ,im getting the h8 battery from walmart at the end of the summer ready for winter ,plus i like the warranty 3yr over the counter free replacement and 108 month prorated warranty. whats your input on the walmart battery?
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Old 02-22-2014, 02:04 PM
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...whats your input on the walmart battery?
Edit: also check the battery's manufacture date...and get the freshest one.

I got over being a battery ( snob ) decades ago as I began to learn more about the few battery manufactures that make 98% of all the batteries sold in the USA...and that the BMW branded battery sold at the BMW dealership was not the VARTA brand battery that came over from Germany on the 3/5/7 series that I'd previously owned.

The EverStart Maxx battery sold at Walmart is either mfg'd by Johnson Controls or Exide (depending on who gets the contract based on what Walmart wants). Just make sure that they hook up the battery vent tube by making them aware that you know that they should. Also take note of if the battery vents from the top or from the side (like the orig battery). If the battery vents from the top...they will need to use the battery vent kit (should be included free) that extends over to the side to hook up with the X's vent tube. If the battery vents from the side, make sure they pierce the hole and use the little elbow (from the original hook up) to poke into the side vent hole on the battery.

Below is a list of battery brands mfg'd by Johnson Controls and Exide...again, some of these may have changed over the last decade due to acquistions by the various battery manufacturers...which have been whittled down to the big three (JC/Exide/East Penn) and a few "boutique" battery mfg's:

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Old 02-22-2014, 07:23 PM
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walmart in my area doesn`t have a garage anymore so i`ll be installing the bat myself and the everstart batt does have the vent holes on the side and they give you plugs to plug the 1 side you don`t use and for the date codes I always check those and take the freshest battery possible. I know where there located because I deal with gel batteries for scooters/power chairs all the time from east penn, I would get 1 from my suplier but they can`t give me a good warranty like walmart go figure.
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Old 02-23-2014, 12:02 PM
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