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Old 10-13-2009, 07:01 AM
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Help diagnose my problem...starting problems on 328i sedan

So last night I'm playing musical cars in the driveway and go to start my '09 328i sedan with 6,300 miles on it. I had last driven it just 2 days prior. Never had any previous issues with it. I push the start button and it just makes a whining noise like it's trying to turn over but doesn't. I push the button again and it continues. Weird. I finally got it to stop by pushing it again.

I try again to start it and it just makes the same sound. I've got the clutch engaged. Then I wait a minute and give it some gas and it turns over. I drove it around the block and it was fine. I started it this morning (it was outside and about 45 degrees) and it started fine.

Any ideas? Should I worry or take it in. The onboard computer says it's not due for service until 10,000 miles.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:17 PM
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You sure it was a "whining" sound, or was it really a grinding sound? I just had my 330's starter replaced under warranty due to grinding noises it was making. The starter would crank, but right when the engine fires, the starter is still turning and overcranks, producing a grinding noise for like 1/2 a second. With the new starter, no more grinding.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:16 AM
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You sure it was a "whining" sound, or was it really a grinding sound? I just had my 330's starter replaced under warranty due to grinding noises it was making. The starter would crank, but right when the engine fires, the starter is still turning and overcranks, producing a grinding noise for like 1/2 a second. With the new starter, no more grinding.
I wouldn't say it was a grinding sound....just the sound it makes right before the engine turns over and fires...it just kept doing that. Like when you've got a dead battery.

Car started up fine today. I'm just a bit worried and don't want to get stranded. The starter shouldn't go bad so soon should it?
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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X5 Starting and 1st Gear Issues

My X5 seems to be having similar problems as yours. I took it to a BMW repair shop (not a dealership) just to get the codes checked, and the mechanic told me it was a Thermostat issue. HOWEVER, it's not overheating, the heat is fine, the engine temp is perfect - so I'm skeptical about this guy's diagnosis now...

Ocassionally on start-up it will take a few extra seconds than normal. Giving it a little gas seems to expedite the process. The outside temperature seems to make no difference whatsoever. The worst part is that I'll be at a stop light / stop sign / or MOST DANGEROUSLY pulling out of a parking lot across a lane of traffic and it will just stall right out unless I really rev up the engine / give it extra gas than normal. Then I'll have to restart the engine, and when this happens, afterwards it ALWAYS needs a push on the gas peddle to turn over. And when this happens, it's only in first gear. And it doesnt always happen - I'd say it's getting more frequent, which concerns me, but it's still intermittent. Once it gets running - 2nd, 3rd, 4th... - I've got no problems at all - she runs beautifully.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks. - Travis
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:30 AM
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So last night I'm playing musical cars in the driveway and go to start my '09 328i sedan with 6,300 miles on it. I had last driven it just 2 days prior. Never had any previous issues with it. I push the start button and it just makes a whining noise like it's trying to turn over but doesn't. I push the button again and it continues. Weird. I finally got it to stop by pushing it again.

I try again to start it and it just makes the same sound. I've got the clutch engaged. Then I wait a minute and give it some gas and it turns over. I drove it around the block and it was fine. I started it this morning (it was outside and about 45 degrees) and it started fine.

Any ideas? Should I worry or take it in. The onboard computer says it's not due for service until 10,000 miles.
Take it in. Have them check the battery. That happened to me with my 2005 545i.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:07 AM
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Mine is due for service in 2000 miles. I'll probably wait until then. It hasn't done it since.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:10 AM
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Mine is due for service in 2000 miles. I'll probably wait until then. It hasn't done it since.
Do you have i Drive? Might help to go through the service screens to make sure everything lists as "okay".

Even if you don't, you can use the turn signal buttons to scroll through and make sure everything is okay.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:19 AM
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Do you have i Drive? Might help to go through the service screens to make sure everything lists as "okay".

Even if you don't, you can use the turn signal buttons to scroll through and make sure everything is okay.
No idrive. I did the self diagnostic check and got the all OK.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:22 AM
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No idrive. I did the self diagnostic check and got the all OK.
Then I wouldn't worry about it. When I had sluggish turnover in my 545i, an icon for weak battery appeared on my dash.

However, if it happens again-warning icon or no warning icon-I would take it in.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:34 AM
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You sure it was a "whining" sound, or was it really a grinding sound? I just had my 330's starter replaced under warranty due to grinding noises it was making. The starter would crank, but right when the engine fires, the starter is still turning and overcranks, producing a grinding noise for like 1/2 a second. With the new starter, no more grinding.
I have a 2006 330i as well. I have noticed that it takes an extra second or two to crank over in the morning (just on the first start of the day). The extra force that it takes to fully start is sometimes accompanied by a metalic rattling noise. All other starts for the day are very smooth. Car runs great - it is just the starting in the morning I am worried about. Car still under warranty for another 7 month and I want to get this fixed. Does this issue sound like a starter problem???
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:32 AM
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I have a 2006 330i as well. I have noticed that it takes an extra second or two to crank over in the morning (just on the first start of the day). The extra force that it takes to fully start is sometimes accompanied by a metalic rattling noise. All other starts for the day are very smooth. Car runs great - it is just the starting in the morning I am worried about. Car still under warranty for another 7 month and I want to get this fixed. Does this issue sound like a starter problem???
You are getting intermittent starter 'oveerrun'. That metallic noise you describe is a grinding sound, the same sound you'd get if you attempt to start a car (with a key ignition) whose engine is already running. Take your car in overnight to your dealer so they can diagnose a cold start the next norning. Got a new starter (actually a remaufactured one) out of it.
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Grinding Noise on Cold Startup

I am the original owner and have approximately 56,000 miles on the clock and i experienced the same problem. I was under suspect that it was the starter; however, i paid the dealership to "diagnosis" the problem and sure enough it was a bad starter. The dealer ship quoted me 960.00 to replace.

I opted to have the work performed by another place in town "German Auto Service" with an estimate of only 599, wow what a deal.
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I have a 2006 330i as well. I have noticed that it takes an extra second or two to crank over in the morning (just on the first start of the day). The extra force that it takes to fully start is sometimes accompanied by a metalic rattling noise. All other starts for the day are very smooth. Car runs great - it is just the starting in the morning I am worried about. Car still under warranty for another 7 month and I want to get this fixed. Does this issue sound like a starter problem???
I am currently experiencing this same issue however it has only been the last 3 days albeit 3 days in a row now. I was hoping it was a one time thing and it would go away but 3 days in a row, means it's here and it's likely staying. I do have a bit of difference though. I get the start after about 2-3 secs of cranking after pushing in the button on the first try of the day in the morning, weather is not a factor in So Cal, nothing freezing or anything like that, and up until 3 days ago, it would start the instant i pushed the start button with no issues. It's only the first start attempt of the day, I do not have this problem at any other times or subsequent attempts for the rest of the day. No issues with idling rough or shifting issues either, just purely at the first start up attempt when I push the button in, it has to crank 2-3 secs before it ignites...I am puzzled.

I am not getting any metal noises or grinding sounds of any kind. I did however use off brand gas as my last tank. Not sure if that has anything to do with it. I remembered my wife making a smart ass comment to me at the time on Sunday about how "that" cheap gas is going to "break" my car....laughed it off but did read some posts elsewhere where few others claimed that a bad batch of gas caused starting issues...so now I'm not really sure if she was right on.

Not sure if this is a battery issue, fuel pump or a starter that is going bad....any thoughts or advice from the mechanically inclined?
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:10 PM
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Thank you all for posting this information. I am now experiencing this same whining noise. Got out of work and started the car, heard a weird jingling sounding noise coming from the engine. Shutoff the car and then turned it back on. Noise continued noticed I was a quart of oil down so went to auto store. shutoff car put a quart of oil went to start the car and now it only does this whining noise when pushing the start button. It only does this whining for 10 seconds then stops. Doesn't start though 2006 BMW 330i 223,000 miles.
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