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Old 02-25-2011, 03:27 PM
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Now I'm debating waiting for a 2012. I put a deposit down to order a 2011 this past weekend. I got some emails from other dealerships offering me a better price. Now I'm thinking of going to that otherdealership that is offering me a better deal than the one I got. How do I know for sure if the $1000 is fully refundable? Also, I did a trade in at the dealership that I put the $1000 deposit down. If I cancel my order, is the trade in deal a done deal, or can they stick the car back on me?
Of course it depends on your state law, but deposits are actually pretty darn hard for a dealership to keep if you cancel an order, even up to the day you go in to pick up your car. As for the trade-in, it is not uncommon at all for them to give you an artificially high price on the trade and a lousy deal on the new car (like, for example, full list price -$500 that they offered you!) so I'm guessing they will have little interest in your car without a new car purchase. Did you already turn it in to them?

Might be a moot point, though. The dealer would need to have an unsold build slot in the next five weeks to even get a spec-built 2011 35d. With five weeks of production left, and the next two or three weeks builds probably too far along to change to your specs, that's a mighty small window for them to have an available build. Did they give you a production week and number?

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Old 02-25-2011, 03:36 PM
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Of course it depends on your state law, but deposits are actually pretty darn hard for a dealership to keep if you cancel an order, even up to the day you go in to pick up your car. As for the trade-in, it is not uncommon at all for them to give you an artificially high price on the trade and a lousy deal on the new car (like, for example, full list price -$500 that they offered you!) so I'm guessing they will have little interest in your car without a new car purchase. Did you already turn it in to them?

Might be a moot point, though. The dealer would need to have an unsold build slot in the next five weeks to even get a spec-built 2011 35d. With five weeks of production left, and the next two or three weeks builds probably too far along to change to your specs, that's a mighty small window for them to have an available build. Did they give you a production week and number?
I'm in California. I didn't sign any contract, but they took a $1000 deposit and I signed at the bottom of a form with all the features I wanted in the car. I need to go home and see if there is any fine print. Yes, they knocked off $500 MSRP on the car. They gave me more than what other dealerships were offering me for the trade in. They took possession of the trade in already, so can they make me take it back since I'm not buying from them? This salesperson is slick... I called and said I was getting better offers elsewhere and they said that everybody is lying. I don't know who to believe anymore. Two other dealers claimed they had 35d slots available... one had 2 slots, the other had 1. What do you think?
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:11 PM
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Really? I had the exact opposite reaction. What config did you order??
Man, 20 inch rims are NO EXTRA CHARGE OPTION
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:54 PM
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Man, 20 inch rims are NO EXTRA CHARGE OPTION
That is until you replace the tires and bend a rim on a pot hole
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:02 PM
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Ok I reran my numbers correctly, adding BMW Apps bring the price of the 2012 to $400 more than the 2011 (MSRP) but I would get, rear shades, rear heated seats, better stereo and of course BMW Apps and the angel eyes on the 2012. Now the question really is, what's up with the ECO credit. If it stays the same or goes up (unlikely), then the 2011 isn't a very good deal anymore.. We shall see.. Mine should be on the line right now, I don't have the production number yet, should have it tomorrow morning.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:58 PM
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Do you know if the BMW apps which I hear are vastly improved for 2012 can be retrofitted into a 2011 unit? can you also retrofit the usb/ipod connection on a 2011? Thanks...
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:48 AM
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Of course it depends on your state law, but deposits are actually pretty darn hard for a dealership to keep if you cancel an order, even up to the day you go in to pick up your car. As for the trade-in, it is not uncommon at all for them to give you an artificially high price on the trade and a lousy deal on the new car (like, for example, full list price -$500 that they offered you!) so I'm guessing they will have little interest in your car without a new car purchase. Did you already turn it in to them?

Might be a moot point, though. The dealer would need to have an unsold build slot in the next five weeks to even get a spec-built 2011 35d. With five weeks of production left, and the next two or three weeks builds probably too far along to change to your specs, that's a mighty small window for them to have an available build. Did they give you a production week and number?
I'm going to call the dealer when they open today. I turned over keys to them on Sunday and they were supposed to send me a check for the equity in the car. I shouldve made them give it to me on the spot. Anyway regarding the other dealer. I ordered last night and got a production number. I did not get a production week. I also have to get my deposit back too. Hopefully they won't make a big stink about all of this.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:25 AM
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Was at teh dealer today to talk about ordering a 2011 35d but they are no longer taking 2011 orders. Everything ordered from this point on will be a 2012.
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:27 AM
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EDIT: my math was wrong... i have to pay more for 2012 .

So, looks like I'll be paying $500 more than my original 2011 spec if I adjust my options according to what I wanted, which effectively means not needing the tech or rear climate packges. But I gain comfort access!

However, my CA just emailed and said 2012 diesel isn't avail til Fall and I would be getting a 2011... i just emailed them this link so hopefully they get my order correct when I go in on Monday to sign!

2012:
56,300 base
150 spare
2200 Sport
3500 premium (tint, roof rails, pdc, cameras)
1500 sound
63,650 total 2012

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2011
51,800 base
150 spare
2200 sport
3400 premium
1800 sound
900 rear climate (tint)
2800 technology (camera)
100 roof rails
63,150 total 2011

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Old 02-26-2011, 12:11 PM
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EDIT: my math was wrong... i have to pay more for 2012 .

So, looks like I'll be paying $500 more than my original 2011 spec if I adjust my options according to what I wanted, which effectively means not needing the tech or rear climate packges. But I gain comfort access!

However, my CA just emailed and said 2012 diesel isn't avail til Fall and I would be getting a 2011... i just emailed them this link so hopefully they get my order correct when I go in on Monday to sign!

2012:
56,300 base
150 spare
2200 Sport
3500 premium (tint, roof rails, pdc, cameras)
1500 sound
63,650 total 2012

VS

2011
51,800 base
150 spare
2200 sport
3400 premium
1800 sound
900 rear climate (tint)
2800 technology (camera)
100 roof rails
63,150 total 2011


My salesman told me the same that 35d would not be available till fall. He even showed me the bulletin from BMW NA. Since I am here in Germany, the owner called Munich, but will not get a answer till Monday. They usually get military pricing later than when it comes out in the states, it has been that way since I bought my 325 in 2006. I hope this info is correct that I am reading here. If it is the case that the 2012 35d will not be here until the fall, I will be waiting till Oct. I priced it out, and with military sales, if we get the same discount off the base price as this year, I can get everything that I ordered on my 2011, + HUD, and Auto High Beam (I could live w/wo) for $500 less.
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Old 02-26-2011, 06:50 PM
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Now i am just confused. The CA told me that I can only order a 2012 35d and I would probably have the car in about 8 weeks. What I am hearing here is that the updated 35d won't be available until the fall. Does that mean I will be able to order the 2011 until the fall? It wouldn't surprise me if the CA was mis informed. Hopefully I can still order the 2012 because I know the eco credit is in effect now but it may not be in the fall. I will have to call the ca again tomorrow.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:31 PM
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There was PDF in a 2 post

I wonder how would I cancel my order car is on a truck heading this way
you can refuse delivery and re-order if need be.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:29 PM
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Now i am just confused. The CA told me that I can only order a 2012 35d and I would probably have the car in about 8 weeks. What I am hearing here is that the updated 35d won't be available until the fall. Does that mean I will be able to order the 2011 until the fall? It wouldn't surprise me if the CA was mis informed. Hopefully I can still order the 2012 because I know the eco credit is in effect now but it may not be in the fall. I will have to call the ca again tomorrow.
I was just infomed by dealer today that the current ECO credit expires on Feb 28th only applies to 2011 model.

The base of 2012 diesel is largely boosted, I won't be surprised to see the current eco credit extended.

I was intestered in diesel, however, I found many options in 2011 were forced throwed in base price of 2012 model now; For example, in order to get rear side shader, real climate control, you have to order the new $3500 "premium package", which was in $820 real climate package in 2011 model. I would much prefer 2011 options configuration.

In 2012 model, we are now debating to get 35i rather than 35d.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:42 PM
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Got a 2011 X5 diesel on order now that I can use $2500. ecco credit of $3500, and pay $1000 over invoice....well equipped but forgot to add ipod adapter....and now I see 2012 has BMW apps which I hear can't be retrofitted on 2011....I am now deciding to keep order or go for the 2012....
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:02 AM
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I was just infomed by dealer today that the current ECO credit expires on Feb 28th only applies to 2011 model.

The base of 2012 diesel is largely boosted, I won't be surprised to see the current eco credit extended.

I was intestered in diesel, however, I found many options in 2011 were forced throwed in base price of 2012 model now; For example, in order to get rear side shader, real climate control, you have to order the new $3500 "premium package", which was in $820 real climate package in 2011 model. I would much prefer 2011 options configuration.

In 2012 model, we are now debating to get 35i rather than 35d.
I agree with you about the 2011 configuration, I was willing to pay $900 for rear climate just to get the shades but $3500 is a bit much just to get sun shades. I don't need much in the way of options, I only wanted heated front seats, the iPod adapter and rear climate (that is how my 2010 is equipped) 2 of the 3 are now standard but I will have to learn to live without the rear shades. The 2012 has a lot more standard features. In your next post you mention using $2500 in addition to the $3500 Eco credit. Is your dealer offering an additional $2500?
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Old 02-27-2011, 04:09 AM
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[QUOTE=miamipanther;5879105]I was just infomed by dealer today that the current ECO credit expires on Feb 28th only applies to 2011 model.

The base of 2012 diesel is largely boosted, I won't be surprised to see the current eco credit extended.

I was intestered in diesel, however, I found many options in 2011 were forced throwed in base price of 2012 model now; For example, in order to get rear side shader, real climate control, you have to order the new $3500 "premium package", which was in $820 real climate package in 2011 model. I would much prefer 2011 options configuration.

In 2012 model, we are now debating to get 35i rather than 35d.[/QUOTE

I just looked on RealOEM.com and teh rear shades are $400. I will wait and to a retro fit assuming it can be done.
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:09 AM
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I wasn't very clear on my post. I have a deal to respond to on Monday on a Diesel X5 fairly well equipped. My dealer is going to give me the vehicle $1000 over invoice. Plus, they will still give me the $2500 deduct for financing with BMW because I ordered right at the Holidays. I got this deal plus the $3500 ecco credit....seems like pretty good deal...but now with the 2012..

My 2011 doesn't have BMW apps, Ipod connection, plus I don't know if the 2012 have other improvements?? Can I retro these features on a 2011 or just buy a 2012....thoughts?
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:11 AM
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When will we see invoice price info?
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Old 02-27-2011, 06:40 AM
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I wasn't very clear on my post. I have a deal to respond to on Monday on a Diesel X5 fairly well equipped. My dealer is going to give me the vehicle $1000 over invoice. Plus, they will still give me the $2500 deduct for financing with BMW because I ordered right at the Holidays. I got this deal plus the $3500 ecco credit....seems like pretty good deal...but now with the 2012..

My 2011 doesn't have BMW apps, Ipod connection, plus I don't know if the 2012 have other improvements?? Can I retro these features on a 2011 or just buy a 2012....thoughts?
Go for the 2012. Retro fitting is often cost prohibitive.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:20 AM
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Can anyone post the 2011 price sheets/packages for easy comparison?

Did the 2011 have the side view camera in the tech package?
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:10 PM
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Also, what's the difference between "Base Price U.S.A. Port of Entry" and "Base Price Diplomatic U.S.A. Port of Entry"?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Edit: Never mind. Found the answer.

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Old 02-27-2011, 10:01 PM
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:58 AM
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Possible, yes, but zero reason to suspect that BMW will eliminate the eco-credit. Same exact reason why I didn't believe they would hold off on 2012 X5 diesels until the Fall when introducing gas X5's to 2012's in April. They need to sell diesels to keep their CAFE up!
The break date of April 1 moving to MY 2012 will have nothing to do with Diesels or Petrols. That's just when BMW switch over.

can't believe that they are still flogging you guys the old 6 speed trannie though & 35d
what about the 35i does that get the 8 speed trannie ???
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:44 AM
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do you still have the car??? If they already have it, I think you're done. If the 2011 hasn't gone into production yet, ask them to change it to a 2012. And are the other lower deals on a 2011 or 2012???
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for me the HUGE things that would have pissed me off would have been 4.0 and 8 speed trannie. since that didn't happen I am happy with my ordered 2011 35d
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