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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 02-26-2011, 06:20 AM
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X3 Diesel a US pipe dream?

I tried to do a search for x3 diesel but didn't find a lot of good threads on wtf is wrong with this country and why BMW can't bring x3 Diesel to the US but couldn't find anything.

If I overlooked a thread please redirect me.

I went to the UK BMW site and it lists the mpg for the x3 diesel at 47-50mpg for highway! I'm sure after US emissions get put on the engine for this country it'll knock it down 10-15mpg but still!

I'm going to google this because it's driving me nuts, I'm trying to find a BMW with good gas mileage but am unimpressed with the 335d's numbers and the x5d's numbers are unimpressive for mpg as well.

An x3 Diesel with even close to the UK numbers for mpg is a no-brainer would buy today.

EDIT: found this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...diesel/4330313

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Old 02-26-2011, 07:14 AM
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It will be here for 2012. My friend works at BMW and has some inside knowledge. So far nothing concrete has been announced, but they've heard a lot of official rumors.
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Old 02-26-2011, 07:36 AM
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Remember the UK gallon is bigger than ours so their mileage will be different. I agree it makes no sense to build the diesel for overseas sale right here in S'burg and yet we can't get them in North America. 50 State certified diesels are built in that same plant (X5) as well. To me it makes a whole lot more sense to put a diesel in an X3 for th US than a 335. Just my opinion.

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Old 02-26-2011, 11:10 AM
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To me it makes a whole lot more sense to put a diesel in an X3 for th US than a 335. Just my opinion.
I totally agree - I did a double take when I saw they put the 35 engine in an X3- I couldn't believe it.

They have all these beautiful diesel engines in their armament! Well now that gas is heading back toward $4/gal maybe they'll change their tune.
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Old 02-26-2011, 11:59 AM
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Well, right -- except that diesel (around here) is now $4.19 a gallon, 20 cents higher than premium gas! Kind of turns folks off who want to save money on fuel since the diesel X cars don't really get THAT much better mileage than the gasser 6's. Now when you get to VW then that is a saving since the little 4 banger gets (in actual use) well over 40. I still like the oil burners better than hybrids and diesel does fluctuate so should be coming back down when the fuel oil heating demand drops.

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Old 02-27-2011, 08:47 AM
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"it makes no sense to build the diesel for overseas sale right here in S'burg and yet we can't get them in North America." Um, the engines are built in Europe and shipped to South Carolina. Of course, the world-bound X3 (and X5 and X6) diesels are assembled here. The port at Charleston has a huge parking lot full of BMW SAVs waiting to be loaded onto ships.
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Old 02-27-2011, 09:14 AM
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Right, I should have used "assembled" vice "build". Sorry, I was just using the two words interchangably when they have different actual meanings. Mea Culpa. Still my thesis stands, it is galling to have them (assembled) right here, yet we can't get them.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:40 PM
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I tried to do a search for x3 diesel but didn't find a lot of good threads on wtf is wrong with this country and why BMW can't bring x3 Diesel to the US but couldn't find anything.

If I overlooked a thread please redirect me.

I went to the UK BMW site and it lists the mpg for the x3 diesel at 47-50mpg for highway! I'm sure after US emissions get put on the engine for this country it'll knock it down 10-15mpg but still!

I'm going to google this because it's driving me nuts, I'm trying to find a BMW with good gas mileage but am unimpressed with the 335d's numbers and the x5d's numbers are unimpressive for mpg as well.

An x3 Diesel with even close to the UK numbers for mpg is a no-brainer would buy today.

EDIT: found this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...diesel/4330313
The 47-50 mpg that you mentioned is imperial mpg, multiply those numbers by .83 and that will give you US mpg.

You also mentioned that you are unimpressed with the 335d mpg numbers. I averaged about 34 mpg in mixed driving and 42 mpg hwy at 60 mph or so was easy. There is nothing on the planet that that offers those kind of numbers with the performance of the 335d.

Have you looked at real world mpg figures at fuelly.com?

I too am very frustrated at our lack of diesel choices here in the US. I honestly think that is about to change.

I'm currently waiting until fall to see if BMW makes an announcement in regards to a x3d for the US market. If they don't I will go with a GLK diesel.

The obvious choice would be the x3 30d available overseas, it is euro rated about 40 combined US mpg which would translate into 40+/- mpg hwy US. Not too shabby from a 4400 lb+/- awd suv that can do 0-62mph in 6.2 seconds.

The x3 20d is rated only slightly better mpg but is much slower.

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What I don't get is how you can find the 335d fuel economy numbers depressing, but you still want a X3 diesel? It will be the same engine in a larger, heavier SUV body... what do you think that is going to do to the fuel economy figures?
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Old 02-27-2011, 02:11 PM
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What I don't get is how you can find the 335d fuel economy numbers depressing, but you still want a X3 diesel? It will be the same engine in a larger, heavier SUV body... what do you think that is going to do to the fuel economy figures?
I understand what you are saying to the op. I know it is hard to believe but the x3 30d actually is rated at higher mpg than a 335d according to BMWUK site.

I'm sure it is because the x3 30d has the newer n57 engine, 8 speed auto, and electric steering vs 335d less efficient m57 engine, 6 speed trans ect.

Hopefully, once it is released there some UK 30d owners will post some real world mpg to see if the listed stats hold true.
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