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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 04-15-2011, 12:03 AM
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I found a few more and spend a bit of effort trying to put it all together into a cohesive set of advice for users with this problem.

How does this look?

- Summary advice to provide users who suspect a major engine repair due to overheating (1) & how to test an engine for blown head gasket, cracked heads, a warped block, cam seizures, contaminated bearings, coolant hydrolock, or piston, ring, or valve damage (1) (2) & a well researched reusable response to a particular user with a blown engine (1) & what questions to ask when severe heating-related damage is initially suspected (1) & what E39 engine swaps are most recommended (1) (2) (3) & how to lift & remove the engine (1) & where to obtain a new or rebuilt replacement short block or long block (1) (2) & why the E39 engines are so prone to heat-related damage in the first place (1) & real-world results from people faced with similar blown engine problems from which this advice came from (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25).

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Are there any links in there about how to drop an S62 into my sweet little engine bay?
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Are there any links in there about how to drop an S62 into my sweet little engine bay?
If you did that, you would have people all over your car, me included.
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LOL I already have that. Mostly because they have no clue what's under the hood and it looks mean. Here are shots of 3 photogs taking shots of my car when I was walking back ready to leave 4ngiefest a few weeks ago. LOL blew my mind.

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I am in the process of repairing a 1999 540i with a snapped chain. I haven't taken the heads off yet to look at the valves and and pistons for potential damage but if there is damage and i decide to swap engines, is there confirmation that these engines will work without any other changes to the computer, etc?

I have a 199 540i M62TU and I have a line on a 2000 motor from a 740i E38.

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This response to that question is a great start in providing details as to what engine upgrades are feasible in a typical E39 'blown-engine' scenario:
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I am in the process of repairing a 1999 540i with a snapped chain. I haven't taken the heads off yet to look at the valves and and pistons for potential damage but if there is damage and i decide to swap engines, is there confirmation that these engines will work without any other changes to the computer, etc?

I have a 199 540i M62TU and I have a line on a 2000 motor from a 740i E38.

Any help would be appreciated.
Which chain? The primary chain or the 2 cam chains? How many miles on it when it broke?
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you can also go from a 01+ 540i to a X5 4.6is engine without much issue yea? someone did it IFIR
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LS1, LS2, LS3.

I was trying to find a link for a guy who did it when he blew his 540/6 speed. He had dropped in a tuned LS1 and was making over 500 WHP!

That's some serious power from a na motor!
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LS1, LS2, LS3.

I was trying to find a link for a guy who did it when he blew his 540/6 speed. He had dropped in a tuned LS1 and was making over 500 WHP!

That's some serious power from a na motor!
Post it up when you find it. It sounds like a beast, it would definitely surprise any M5.
I am interested to see the 4.6is swap too.
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Post it up when you find it. It sounds like a beast, it would definitely surprise any M5.
I am interested to see the 4.6is swap too.
Found it!
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...mpleted-8.html

Now that's an improvement! 531 WHP (which equates to somewhere around 600+ HP, more than double the 540 output!
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Found it!
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e39...mpleted-8.html

Now that's an improvement! 531 WHP (which equates to somewhere around 600+ HP, more than double the 540 output!
I clicked on the link, which was fine, but when I clicked on the photo of the car in the thread, I got a pop-up saying I needed to "clean up" my hard drive--typical bogus malware come-on, with the only way to exit being to click on the "OK" button.
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Which chain? The primary chain or the 2 cam chains? How many miles on it when it broke?
Its the primary chain and the car has 155,000 on it. I know there's a good chance that some pistons might have kissed a few valves which is why I'm thinking of putting a motor from a 2000 740i in it. I'd still change the guides in the motor before I dropped it in. I'm just concerned about the computer having issues with the different motor. This is my first BMW so I'm not too familiar with them yet.
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My local BMW chapter has a couple BMW 3s with LS motors. Its not new.
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Its the primary chain and the car has 155,000 on it. I know there's a good chance that some pistons might have kissed a few valves which is why I'm thinking of putting a motor from a 2000 740i in it. I'd still change the guides in the motor before I dropped it in. I'm just concerned about the computer having issues with the different motor. This is my first BMW so I'm not too familiar with them yet.
What were you doing when it broke? It should have gone much further.
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How about a Chevy 350 swap.........LOL J/K.
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Anybody ever hear or seen a m5 engine swap?
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How about a Chevy 350 swap.........LOL J/K.
The Ls1 is a Chevy 350
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Anybody ever hear or seen a m5 engine swap?
Buying a whole M5 would be easier than swapping in an M5 engine. Why?

The M5 engine has no components in common with a 540. They are entirely different engines with different ECUs.

Dropping in an LS would be cheaper. And there are a lot of factory available upgrade components.

There are probably more aftermarket up grades to an LS than to any other engine.
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What were you doing when it broke? It should have gone much further.
I bought the car this way. The guy lived in my neighborhood and said he was doing about 30 - 35 mph, heard a sound like rocks in a coffee can, then a pop and that was it.

I have a line on a cheap motor that I can hear run out of a 2000 740i which from what I've been researching on here is a M62TUB and my 1999 540i has a M62TU. I've also read on here that these motors are a straight swap without an issue according to the chart someone posted. I just don't want any issues with the ECM or anything like that.

Can anyone confirm this swap will work without any problems (besides the actual work to swap it)

Does anyone know what the "B" is in the M62TUB?
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It is the same engine. I think that someone just put M62TUB just like M52TUB28, they just left out the 44, which would make it a M62TUB44. It is the correct engine for your car. Just change all of the gaskets while the engine is out.
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[QUOTE=Jimmys 530i;6051394Just change all of the gaskets while the engine is out.[/QUOTE]

That's a great idea ....that I would take a little farther while the engine is out.

I would consider replacing the wear items and check everything that is open after the covers come off. Good time to look over the cooling system too.
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For the cross-linked record, today, re-sleeving & boring came up over here:
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > M54 Block Cylinders

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BMW's specs say they can be bored once, +0.25mm. This is for the M52B25/B28 TU engine; the same document discusses the M54 changes without specifying anything about boring.

They are not designed to be re-sleeved, but it's possible. Yadayadayada had his M62 bored out and re-sleeved.
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For the record, this was asked today:
- E39 (1997 - 2003) > Would a 2004 545 engine bolt up to a 540i

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Like the title says. Also, is there any other motor that will fit, maybe from an X5, the 4.6 and 4.8 only? Thanks.
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