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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 03-14-2011, 09:16 AM
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Resetting service message on an E70

Because I'm out of warranty (and am not a big fan of BMW service in any case), I spent the day yesterday replacing the front pads on my X5. That left resetting the service message, something which my local BMW dealer did not want to help me with. But between the forums here and a nice Youtube video, I was able to reset the service message in about 30 seconds. I was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was, mostly because I expected BMW to have made it impossible for me to do at home.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:37 PM
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so could you please tell us how you did that?
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:19 PM
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Oh sure. Watch this video:

It is all done with the trip odometer reset button, which is kind of funny given the complicated iDrive system.

1. Start car and reset trip odometer.

2. Turn off car; without your foot on the brake, press the start button. The car's electroincs will start.

3. As the car starts, press and hold the trip odometer reset until you get a yellow triangle with an exclamation point on the dash display, followed by entry into the service menu. Don't release until you are into the menu.

4. Pressing and releasing the trip odometer reset repeatedly walks you through all of the possible service intervals. The one for the front pads looked like an exclamation point up by the front quarter of the car. Any that need resetting will be red; the rest will be yellow.

5. When you get to the one you want, press and hold the trip odometer reset until the display says "Reset?". Then release, press, and hold until it resets.

If you do this too slowly you will be bounced out of the service menu. Just turn the car off and start again.

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Old 04-19-2011, 09:39 PM
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Thanks for the info Weasel worked like a charm!!!
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Old 04-24-2011, 04:14 PM
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ok, this works well and im able to get into the reset menu. i can see the various options, cycling through them by pressing and releasing the trip odometer button. i replaced the rear brake pads and now i need to reset the computer. but, here's my problem. when i get into the menu, and try to reset the rear brakes warning, it says "reset?", so i release and repress holding the button down. then, the mileage associated with the rear brakes goes to "_ _ _ _ " (four blanks) but i cant figure out how to enter a mileage? is there some other button i need to press? if i just keep holding the trip odometer button, it sets itself to -16000 (negative sixteen thousand) miles and thats still leaves the warning on. any ideas? thanks so much, this is a big help.

and, i should add that i did not replace the sensor on the brake pad. im guessing that i need to replace it and then i wont have any problems? let me know if this sensor is the thing i need to replace. if so, where can i get the sensor, e.g., the autoparts store like autozone or is this some sort of specialty thing that only bmw sells?

thanks big time!

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Old 04-30-2011, 09:52 AM
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i bought a brake sensor and cable from napa. but, when i got the passenger side rear wheel off and then looked at the existing cable, well... the new cable just doesnt look long enough. i did not take it out of the package to measure and make sure. instead, the next time im at the dealer, ill compare to the bmw approved cables that they have in stock. so, until then, i just spliced together the two wires on the old sensor cable. i cut the cable a few inches from the caliper and wired the ends together. finally, i did what weasel atty says to do in the youtube video, and presto, the x5 now thinks ive got 31000 miles of rear brakes. i hope to fix this correct way in the next month or so.
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Old 07-09-2013, 02:44 PM
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Thanks for the video.

Just one suggestion to make it perfect, particularly for the stupid people like myself: THE DOOR MUST BE CLOSED OR YOU'LL WASTE 30 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE ASKING WHY IT AIN'T WORKING.... Eheheh!
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:49 PM
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Thanks for the video.

Just one suggestion to make it perfect, particularly for the stupid people like myself: THE DOOR MUST BE CLOSED OR YOU'LL WASTE 30 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE ASKING WHY IT AIN'T WORKING.... Eheheh!


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Old 05-19-2014, 05:09 AM
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this worked for me on all the other resets except the one that has an icon with a car symbol and a 'double s' at the top left. The reset doesn't seem to work on this one. Any ideas?
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Old 05-19-2014, 05:49 AM
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Thanks for the video.

Just one suggestion to make it perfect, particularly for the stupid people like myself: THE DOOR MUST BE CLOSED OR YOU'LL WASTE 30 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE ASKING WHY IT AIN'T WORKING.... Eheheh!
We should have a Thread, "Lessons Learned the Hard Way", could make for an entertaining thread..

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Old 02-24-2016, 06:45 AM
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CBS/SII Icons

Thanks! This worked perfectly on my '11 x35d - stealer wanted to charge $40 just to reset the vehicle check light.

Newer BMW models use actively monitored Condition Based Servicing (CBS), older use mileage/time based Service Interval Indicator (SII).

Here are what the menu icons mean for each system.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:20 AM
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Thanks for the video.

Just one suggestion to make it perfect, particularly for the stupid people like myself: THE DOOR MUST BE CLOSED OR YOU'LL WASTE 30 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE ASKING WHY IT AIN'T WORKING.... Eheheh!
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Old 07-10-2016, 05:32 AM
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I got an E70 4.8i, and while resetting the front brake light, I came across this sub-menu:

It's extensive, and it even has it's own sub-menu. Does anyone know what this is? It looks like something the dealership would work with:
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Old 07-10-2016, 10:11 AM
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^ Its the 'secret OBDC menu'. Many discussions about this (not particular to X5). Dealers just use a computer- this is a menu to allow rudimentary access to certain data, but really isnt used for much. People that are inclined to look at this stuff will not just have a program on a phone or laptop to access.

Edit- but yeah, when you find it yourself, you get that "Holy cow, a portal into another universe...does everyone know about this yet?"

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Old 02-28-2017, 11:15 AM
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Oh sure. Watch this video:

It is all done with the trip odometer reset button, which is kind of funny given the complicated iDrive system.

1. Start car and reset trip odometer.

2. Turn off car; without your foot on the brake, press the start button. The car's electroincs will start.

3. As the car starts, press and hold the trip odometer reset until you get a yellow triangle with an exclamation point on the dash display, followed by entry into the service menu. Don't release until you are into the menu.

4. Pressing and releasing the trip odometer reset repeatedly walks you through all of the possible service intervals. The one for the front pads looked like an exclamation point up by the front quarter of the car. Any that need resetting will be red; the rest will be yellow.

5. When you get to the one you want, press and hold the trip odometer reset until the display says "Reset?". Then release, press, and hold until it resets.

If you do this too slowly you will be bounced out of the service menu. Just turn the car off and start again.
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Learn something new about this car everyday. Didn't know 35d's have a CBS indicator for DPF. So should I wait for the CBS to prompt me before I replace it or should I just follow the timing standard to replace it every 2nd oil change?

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Old 02-28-2017, 01:44 PM
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Learn something new about this car everyday. Didn't know 35d's have a CBS indicator for DPF. So should I wait for the CBS to prompt me before I replace it or should I just follow the timing standard to replace it every 2nd oil change?

Not sure what you think DPF is but it's not a regular service item, certainly not every second oil change @ $2,617.21 list price!

I think CBS monitors ash levels in the DPF and once it reaches a certain level replacement warning comes up. Could be wrong on that last point, but based on what I read once a DPF has a certain amount of ash it no longer performs and either needs cleaning or replacement. Not a cheap service.

Now the fuel filter needs service every third oil change if on the shortened oil change interval or every second if on older and longer interval. Works out to roughly every 30-35k miles. Is that what you were thinking this is?
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:49 PM
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Not sure what you think DPF is but it's not a regular service item, certainly not every second oil change @ $2,617.21 list price!

I think CBS monitors ash levels in the DPF and once it reaches a certain level replacement warning comes up. Could be wrong on that last point, but based on what I read once a DPF has a certain amount of ash it no longer performs and either needs cleaning or replacement. Not a cheap service.

Now the fuel filter needs service every third oil change if on the shortened oil change interval or every second if on older and longer interval. Works out to roughly every 30-35k miles. Is that what you were thinking this is?
doh!!!! You're right, I got it confused with diesel fuel filter. Wait, I didn't know about the every 3rd interval possibility. I only read the 2nd interval. Do you know where the reading material is for the 3rd interval?


According to my records, the last fuel filter change was August 2015 at 55k miles with an oil change, had 1 oil change in 2016, and today I'm at 67k miles (likely 70k miles by August oil change date). This august will be the 3rd oil change since the 2015 change, should I skip on this August's oil change based on this mileage rate?

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Well, the change from ~15k to ~11k occurred some time in the 2012 model year, and it seems dealers would update the older cars when they came in for service as part of 4/50. I'm sure this was directed by BMW but likely that some dealers did it, some not. It was done on the first dealer oil change on my former MINI Countryman which was a 2012 model year with a November 2011 build date that I had special ordered, and consequently bought new, which is why I'm fairly familiar with this. My X5 is a fairly late 2012 model year production (July 2012 build) but I did not buy it new. I bought it in May 2013 with around 11k miles on it. When I got it the OCI was 11k, and BMW changed the filter at the third BMW pre paid oil changed which occurred right around 33k miles. Given what happened with the Countryman and the late 2012 build date on the X5, I'm fairly certain it came out of the factory with the latest CBS settings, yet the service manual states to change the fuel filter every second oil change. It is possible all 2012s came with out of date info in the service manual, not sure if info was updated on 2013 model year versions or not. I tried to get the dealer to change the filter at second oil change based on info in the manual but they were familiar with the OCI changes as well and said they needed to go by the CBS info on their computer and it would pop up at the third oil change. It did.

Sounds like your upcoming oil change will be third for that fuel filter so it should be changed then.
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Well, the change from ~15k to ~11k occurred some time in the 2012 model year, and it seems dealers would update the older cars when they came in for service as part of 4/50. I'm sure this was directed by BMW but likely that some dealers did it, some not. It was done on the first dealer oil change on my former MINI Countryman which was a 2012 model year with a November 2011 build date that I had special ordered, and consequently bought new, which is why I'm fairly familiar with this. My X5 is a fairly late 2012 model year production (July 2012 build) but I did not buy it new. I bought it in May 2013 with around 11k miles on it. When I got it the OCI was 11k, and BMW changed the filter at the third BMW pre paid oil changed which occurred right around 33k miles. Given what happened with the Countryman and the late 2012 build date on the X5, I'm fairly certain it came out of the factory with the latest CBS settings, yet the service manual states to change the fuel filter every second oil change. It is possible all 2012s came with out of date info in the service manual, not sure if info was updated on 2013 model year versions or not. I tried to get the dealer to change the filter at second oil change based on info in the manual but they were familiar with the OCI changes as well and said they needed to go by the CBS info on their computer and it would pop up at the third oil change. It did.

Sounds like your upcoming oil change will be third for that fuel filter so it should be changed then.
Thanks for this update. No wonder my manual also says 2nd oil change. I have a 2012 (likely a summer build date)

So my upcoming oil change will be the 2nd change since my last filter change in 2015. Just to recap:

2015: oil and fuel filter change (car's 2nd fuel filter change, 6th oil change)
2016: oil change 1
2017: oil change 2

Also, would it make more sense for me to wait until I hit 30k miles to change it instead of time? The filter shouldn't degrade like brake fluid or oil. It's more like a physical wear piece like suspension, tires and braking equipment?

BTW, I suppose I can always scan my key at the dealership to get their recommended servicing when time comes. If you're correct, it should show no need for fuel filter change
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:25 PM
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If it's going to be out of pocket, I would. I've decided to incorporate the fuel filter into some of the other fluid changes. On my other cars I would do diffs and transfer case (if equipped) at 30k, but here I'm going to push to 35k miles and handle fuel filter in one shot. Looks like this:

Done at 35k miles:
Front and rear diff fluids
Transfer case fluid
Fuel filter

Coming up soon at 70k miles:
All above plus
Trans fluid and pan / filter ass'y
Power steering fluid
Drive belts
Thermostat since it;s currently only operating at 75-78 degrees C
Note: On the gassers this is where I do the fuel filter, diesel needs more frequent change.

Planned at 105k miles
Front and rear diff fluids
Transfer case fluid
Fuel filter
Trans fluid (no filter)

Planned at 140k miles
Front and rear diff fluids
Transfer case fluid
Fuel filter
Trans fluid (no filter)
Power steering fluid
Belts
Another thermostat??

I do brake fluid as well as air / pollen filters every two years, coolant every four although now I might stretch coolant to every dead thermostat if the replacement ones don't improve.
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