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Old 11-07-2011, 03:29 PM
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1995 525I W/ Auto Trans - Recent Repairs

Hi All Fellow 95 525I Owners:

I just recently had my 173k 525I serviced @ the dealer. The Power Windows, Sunroof were not working - Originally, only the front two windows were working, sunroof was not and when I press the switches for the rear windows, I can only hear a faint click from the back but no response. Just about two weeks ago, ALL power windows stopped working when I pressed the driver window to roll down, it opened the sunroof instead (weird, I know but I thought at least the sunroof motor is working). I did my due dilligence based on my insights from this forum and others and checked all fuses, relays and fusible links in the engine bay as well as under the rear seat. They were all good. So I finally accepted defeat and took it to our local dealership for diagnostic. The culprit? A GENERAL MODULE! The cost including diagnosis fee, replacing cluster instrument bulbs and replacing all engine belts (they claimed I needed it bad) plus a state required inspection and safety fee came to $1,350!!! On top of this, they told me they have yet to figure out why my sunroof is still not working! They told me they have to charge me additional fee to diagnose the sunroof and the BMW mechanic told me that my particular model had a "weird sunroof issues" that was common and he does not recommend ever using it. So that's when I pulled all the stop and spoke to the service manager who agreed that the sunroof problem should have been included in the diagnosis and that they will do it for no additional charge (diagnosis only). I have not taken it back to them yet for this diagnosis as the car is now with my indy mechanic who is doing other repairs. All in all, I have spent more than double for what I originally budgeted for my daughters first car! The remaining work, repair, upgrade includes cooling system, major oil gaskets, fuel system, spark plugs change and minor interior cosmetic upgrade which I will do myself. When it's all said and done, my friends and family will say I could have gotten a nice little Japanese car and would have saved a lot of headaches and moola. My answer to them is...IT'S A FREAKING BMW!!! Will keep everyone posted on this progress and will post photos as they become available. In the meantime, to all my fellow hard core beeming fans, keep on driving and believing until you go broke!!!
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:36 PM
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OH, Per BMW Dealer, they told me the Central Lock System for my Specific Car Year and Model does not have the automatic lock hence why my car is started and put into Drive, it will not lock and in order for me to lock it, I am told that I have to manually press the Door Lock Knobs to lock it. Can anyone please confirm that is true? Thank you!
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:03 PM
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Mine does not autolock the doors. Also is yours a wagon which has a unique and problamatic double sunroof? The single sunroof on my sedan has never been an issue.

Keep away form the dealer for older BMWs not in warrenty. Note that the instrument cluster bulbs are a pain as the steering wheel/airbag must be removed.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:08 PM
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OH, Per BMW Dealer, they told me the Central Lock System for my Specific Car Year and Model does not have the automatic lock hence why my car is started and put into Drive, it will not lock and in order for me to lock it, I am told that I have to manually press the Door Lock Knobs to lock it. Can anyone please confirm that is true? Thank you!
This is true.
Sorry about the repair bill. Dealers aren't your best option for repairing these cars. Few of the "techs", as they like to be called now, are familiar with the model, fewer know the tricks. Same labor rate and parts prices for your $3000 car as a new $100k 7.
An independant specialist and a good parts source are your friends. Lots of these cars are being parted out. A quick search on this and other forums, e-bay, Craig'slist, etc. will get you those expensive modules for a few cents on the dollar. Two of the modules you needed are collecting dust in my basement.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:19 PM
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my friends and family will say I could have gotten a nice little Japanese car and would have saved a lot of headaches and moola.
This is so true, you could got your daughter some 4 cylinder japanese car and you would have less headaches.

1995 525i is well known to BMW community as having window regulator issues, front seat issues, heater valve issues and many more, it is just high maintenance car.

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I have spent more than double for what I originally budgeted for my daughters first car!
Let your daughter date me instead of some pot smoking loser and you won't have issue with geting her first car, I already have one bmw ready for her!
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:19 PM
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This is so true, you could got your daughter some 4 cylinder japanese car and you would have less headaches.

1995 525i is well known to BMW community as having window regulator issues, front seat issues, heater valve issues and many more, it is just high maintenance car.



Let your daughter date me instead of some pot smoking loser and you won't have issue with geting her first car, I already have one bmw ready for her!

Where do you get the idea that the 95 525i is more problem prone than other e34s? it is no more high maintenance than any other e34. Every problem you mention is common to all e34s. You did not mention other e34 problems such as suspension bushings, water pumps and radiators.

Simply put, all BMWs are just more expensive to care for than a Honda or toyota.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:31 PM
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Mine does not autolock the doors. Also is yours a wagon which has a unique and problamatic double sunroof? The single sunroof on my sedan has never been an issue.

Keep away form the dealer for older BMWs not in warrenty. Note that the instrument cluster bulbs are a pain as the steering wheel/airbag must be removed.

Thanks for the confirmation on the non auto lock. I have a 4 door sedan with the single sunroof. I originally took the car to 2 indy mechanics but I either did not like the response or they could not figure out whats wrong with the electrical issues I was having. So that's when I decided to bite the bullet. In all fairness, the dealer was able to provide me with a pretty detailed diagnostic overall (of course not including the sunroof issue I was having, go figure). That allowed me to look at other critical components to either upgrade or repair now. I guess that was also a good call to have BMW replace the instrument cluster light since it sounds like a pretty involved process.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:37 PM
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This is true.
Sorry about the repair bill. Dealers aren't your best option for repairing these cars. Few of the "techs", as they like to be called now, are familiar with the model, fewer know the tricks. Same labor rate and parts prices for your $3000 car as a new $100k 7.
An independant specialist and a good parts source are your friends. Lots of these cars are being parted out. A quick search on this and other forums, e-bay, Craig'slist, etc. will get you those expensive modules for a few cents on the dollar. Two of the modules you needed are collecting dust in my basement.
Thanks for the confirmation on the auto lock as well. I will most def stay away from the dealer now that I have found what appears to be a reliable indy (cross my finger) but quite a drive to get to. Taking your advice and making my research deeper on DIY's and better price parts. Wish I had known about your module before I gave up and went to the dealer. Oh well, live and learn right fellow E34 owners? Learn from my mistake as I am learning from most of you. THANKS AGAIN FROM EVERYONE'S ADVICE!!!
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:41 AM
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[QUOTE=HakenTT;6426994]
1995 525i is well known to BMW community as having window regulator issues, front seat issues, heater valve issues and many more, it is just high maintenance car.



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High maintenace??? I couldn't disagree more.
I've owned a BUNCH of E34s and never had a window regulator fail. The seat issue is a simple no cost fix and the heater valve is ~$100, big expense for a 15-20 year old car.
It's not high maintenance at all if you MAINTAIN them.
Too many buy neglected crapwagons then proceed to throw parts at them until fixed or they give up and damn the breed.
A proper PPI, prudence regarding repairs and maintenance are all that's needed to make these very reliable and inexpensive cars to run.
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:49 PM
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1995 525i is well known to BMW community as having window regulator issues, front seat issues, heater valve issues and many more, it is just high maintenance car.



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High maintenace??? I couldn't disagree more.
I've owned a BUNCH of E34s and never had a window regulator fail. The seat issue is a simple no cost fix and the heater valve is ~$100, big expense for a 15-20 year old car.
It's not high maintenance at all if you MAINTAIN them.
Too many buy neglected crapwagons then proceed to throw parts at them until fixed or they give up and damn the breed.
A proper PPI, prudence regarding repairs and maintenance are all that's needed to make these very reliable and inexpensive cars to run.
Plus 1 big time. I try to fix anything that breaks asap. do all the preventaive maintenance as needed. i can do some things and let my indy handle the remainder.

That said both my rear window motors failed. One 4 years ago and one last month.
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