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Old 02-15-2004, 12:42 PM
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Angry Front ended...

Well my 2004 330Ci with less than 3800 miles in about 8 months just got in it's first accident. Normally I would drive my 1993 Ford Probe GT, but it was a nice Sunny day in Michigan. So I decided I would take the BMW out for some errands. So on the way home, I decided to stop at Wendy's to get some lunch. While getting ready to go through the separate drive thru lane, the guy about 15 feet in front of me decides he too wants to get into the drive thru lane. So he slams it in reverse without looking and hits my front bumper. Despite my horn blaring the entire way he keeps on reversing. He was turning right as he hit me, so his left rear clipped my right front. The collision completely shattered his bumper into two. The damage done to my car is some scrapes to the bumper, tow hook cover, piece above the bumper cover, and the headlight cover. It looks worse than it actually is with all the paint transfer (will buff it out once insurance looks at it). Fortunately there doesn't appear to be any damage to the hood or the fender.

Since Michigan is a no-fault state and this happened on private property (parking lot), he did not get a ticket. However, it is definitely his fault and I will have my insurance go after him to pay my deductible.

So my questions are, does anyone know what the BEST bodyshop in SE Michigan or Northern Ohio is. My car was purchased from Yark BMW in Toledo, but the big guys around here are Erhard (no bodyshop). Also is the headlight lens available without purchasing the entire headlight assembly??? How easy is it to remove the headlight washer cover and the surrounding piece for repainting???

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Old 02-15-2004, 12:49 PM
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Man, it hurts just looking at that...
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:19 PM
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Man, it hurts just looking at that...
It's actually not too bad, just some scrapes and a whole lot of paint transfer. I've already made my claim with AAA and have made a preliminary choice to go to Autometric Collision in Royal Oak, MI. They supposedly do work on high end cars (BMW, Benz, Lexus, ...), so hopefully it'll be good...

Anyone have experience with Autometric Collision in Royal Oak (or any of the other 6 locations)???
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:26 PM
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:48 PM
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So what was the other guy's explanation? "I am just stupid" would have been an appropriate answer, though I would've had some choice words for him.
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Old 02-15-2004, 02:33 PM
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So what was the other guy's explanation? "I am just stupid" would have been an appropriate answer, though I would've had some choice words for him.
The other guys response was "I didn't see you"... Well no ****... You didn't look. I was pissed, but didn't say much. All I was thinking was how could this guy do this. The car is new and only had about 3900 miles on it. I baby it and usually drive the winter beater. He didn't want me to call the police and wanted to settle it. I opted to call the police because it would be documented for insurance reasons. I figured better to do that than be sorry. It must have been the Bob Evans uniform that he was wearing, the early 90's Ford Escort, and his attitude that further convinced me that calling the police would be a good idea.
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Old 02-15-2004, 02:42 PM
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The other guys response was "I didn't see you"... Well no ****... You didn't look. I was pissed, but didn't say much. All I was thinking was how could this guy do this. The car is new and only had about 3900 miles on it. I baby it and usually drive the winter beater. He didn't want me to call the police and wanted to settle it. I opted to call the police because it would be documented for insurance reasons. I figured better to do that than be sorry. It must have been the Bob Evans uniform that he was wearing, the early 90's Ford Escort, and his attitude that further convinced me that calling the police would be a good idea.
Good decision on calling the cops.

I have been screwed many times by not calling cops at the other party's (their fault)request just because I am a nice guy. Next time when I get hit, I swear I will call cops no matter what.

It does hurt to see the pics. But like you said, thank God the hood and the fender are fine.

Now, how can one do reverse without looking back?
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Old 02-15-2004, 03:11 PM
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The other guys response was "I didn't see you"... Well no ****... You didn't look. I was pissed, but didn't say much. All I was thinking was how could this guy do this. The car is new and only had about 3900 miles on it. I baby it and usually drive the winter beater. He didn't want me to call the police and wanted to settle it. I opted to call the police because it would be documented for insurance reasons. I figured better to do that than be sorry. It must have been the Bob Evans uniform that he was wearing, the early 90's Ford Escort, and his attitude that further convinced me that calling the police would be a good idea.
First, I feel your pain. Sorry that happened to you. I'd be pissed as well.

Second, whenever someone says that they don't want to call the cops or insurance, then that is the first thing you should always do. You played it right. Without a police statement, insurance will look for admissions from the parties to make a determination about fault and/or who should pay the claim, including your deductible. It can get ugly without the independent statement. Good luck with getting it fixed. Post some pics afterwards.
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Old 02-15-2004, 07:10 PM
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What was the make of the other car/truck? Looks like it rode over your bumper; also looks like there is a crease on the top of your bumper, not sure if the collision center can take that out.

Appears that your airbags didn't activate either as the hit must have been hard enough to cause that much damage to the other car's bumper.

Sorry to read about your experience - bummer
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Old 02-15-2004, 10:00 PM
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Second, whenever someone says that they don't want to call the cops or insurance, then that is the first thing you should always do. You played it right. Without a police statement, insurance will look for admissions from the parties to make a determination about fault and/or who should pay the claim, including your deductible. It can get ugly without the independent statement. Good luck with getting it fixed. Post some pics afterwards.
While living in Florida, another no-fault state, 3 NY tourists in an Avis Cadillac decided to make a right hand turn from 2 lanes over in front of me. I stomped on my brakes but they still managed to clip my driver's side front bumper, headlamp and hood ($2,500 in repairs ten years ago). The tourist driver was charged by the police with causing the accident. Avis, being self insured, refused to reimburse my insurance company for the total cost of the repair. They only wanted to pay 80% of the costs alleging I was 20% at fault. I guess by driving down the street and minding my own business I contributed to the accident. After much arguing my insurance settled for 90%, though they did reimburse me 100% of my deductible.
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Old 02-16-2004, 04:07 AM
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now you have a reasong for someone else to pay for a new M-tech front for your coupe
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:14 PM
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Well the police report was done and the cop was actually pretty cool about things. He basically said it was his fault, but given that there is "no fault" on private property he can't exactly write it. I also spoke to my insurance agent today and he's going to use Michigan's Mini-Tort law and get my $500 deductible back because clearly it is his fault.

The other car was a 90's Escort. The reason it looks like he rode over my bumper is because he did a little. Plus, his bumper shattered and scraped up my headlight. I was fairly levelheaded after the incident. Called the cops and told the other driver that he was an idiot. No need to go off on him really badly because that will only scare him. He's more likely to tell the truth if he isn't scared of anyone taking legal/financial action.

I took my car to Autometric Collision in Pontiac, Michigan and had them look at it. They were planning on repairing the bumper. But instead I'm going to use the "repair" money to get a M-Technik bumper ($560 shipped from Pacific to Autometric). So after all is said and done, I'll probably end up paying about $400 for the new bumper out of my own pocket. Autometric Collision seems like one of the best places in SE Michigan. All they do is work on high end cars. My 2004 330Ci was considered low end on their lot/garage. They had tons of Mercedes/BMWs/Audis inside. They also had a yellow Ferrari 360 Modena inside. So I'm confident that the job will be done well.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:17 PM
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You got them headlight warshers!

We don see them too much in californeey.
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Old 02-18-2004, 05:43 PM
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So here's the story...

I'm getting the car repaired at Autometric Collision in Pontiac Michigan. All they service are high-end cars (my 330Ci was among the cheapest there). They had tons of S-class Benzes, BMWs, and even a yellow Ferrari 360 Modena there (one of the guys on the Audi board says this guy was having some of his engine parts painted for show).

I ended up ordering all my M-tech bumper/installation parts, headlight washer cover, and headlamp filler (piece between the headlamp and bumper) from Pacific BMW for about $580 delivered. Today, the insurance adjuster did my estimate and wrote off the original bumper ($249), bi-xenon headlamp assembly ($785!!!), the headlamp washer cover ($12.70), and the headlamp filler ($20.50), and labor/paint for a grand total of $1433.46!!!

So given that I'll get a credit from Autometric for about $280 in parts, my total price for the M-Tech will be $300 painted and installed. Plus, I'll get to keep the old parts and also the bi-xenon headlamp assembly. I'm going to sell off the old bumper/fogs and the new headlamp assembly with the old lens (someone can use the clears from it). So I should be able to recoup much of my costs. In reality, the pictures don't look as bad once you wipe off all the red paint. There are very minor scrapes in the bumper cover and some paint scratches. So who wants to bid on the parts: 1) slightly damaged 2004 330Ci front bumper with fog lights or 2) new right bi-xenon headlight assembly with clear corner marker and original slightly scratch lens???

I'll post some new pics with all the red paint cleaned up and I'll also post some pics of the M-tech once it's on (early March) .
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Old 02-19-2004, 08:42 AM
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Autometric review by Car & Driver when they virtually totalled their 328i:

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
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