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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:55 PM
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Yes they did tell me that. How funny. I went to Alexander but not Crevier. Alexander had only a couple of base models. One thing I realized in my search is just how numerous BMW dealerships are in So Cal.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:52 AM
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As you have discovered lots of dealers in LaLa land! I suspect you would have a harder time finding a Chevy dealer down there than a BMW store. Great for the consumer though! Not quite as thick on the ground up here but there are at least six in the Bay Area and a couple of others just outside.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:58 AM
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As you have discovered lots of dealers in LaLa land! I suspect you would have a harder time finding a Chevy dealer down there than a BMW store. Great for the consumer though! Not quite as thick on the ground up here but there are at least six in the Bay Area and a couple of others just outside.
Funny thing. As thick as the dealers are down there (I used to live in Irvine) I had to drive up to your neck of the woods to get the car I wanted a few years back.
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Old 03-30-2011, 01:14 PM
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In Washington there is not alot of x3's anywhere so you have to order,if you were in S. Cal I think you would have alot more power. I did get Costco pricing from a non Costco BMW provider after threatening to cancel. There was absolutely no movement on MSRP until then. Good luck. Love the car so far. Woohoo!
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:53 AM
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Well, they sell a lot of Bimmers in the valley and bay area so they are pretty good on pricing in my experience. In an hour I can easily drive to all of the major stores (not in rush hour of course) up here.
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:09 PM
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When you all mean invoice pricing are you including the MACO/training fee of $400 and $200, respectively, on the X3 as this is a direct cost to the dealership?

When I placed my order earlier this week, the dealership e-mailed me the Vehicle Inquiry Report which listed both the invoice and MRSP. The MACO/training fee was a line item on the invoice cost, but was a N/C on the MRSP line. I believe that Costco, Zag and Edmunds are not listing the MACO/ training fee to calculate the invoice, but the dealerships are charged the MACO/training fee by BMWNA. Initially, I was $1314 over invoice as I didn't realize the additional $600 added to the invoice amount, but since the dealership has to pay this $600, my 'net' over invoice was $714. I was quoted $55,359 for car spec'd in my signature line. My BMWFS lease will based on posted customer loyalty rate MF (June 2011) and no markup on the bank fee.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:51 AM
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pricing...

Hey everyone -
I'm new to the forum...this very topic is what I was wondering as well... I went yesterday and I think I have a fantastic deal on my hands...wanted to get everyone's opinion before I sign or if I should negotiate more. Also wanted to see which setup everyone recommends...I'm on the fence with the nav..never had it in car so not sure...thanks!

BTW...I'm getting the "invoice price" from truecar.com...both look to be about 500-600 over truecar.com invoice

Here is the vehicle:
'11 X3 35
Cold Weather
Premium
Sports Activity
MSRP: 48,325 Sale Price: 45619 or,
with Tech: MSRP 51200 Sale 48,357

I'm going select (or through credit union) BMW quoted select with 5K down, 576 on first deal, 615 on second. My credit union is about 20 bucks cheaper a month on each
THoughts??
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Old 04-17-2011, 11:26 AM
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Here are the specs for what I ordered

Color: Black Sapphire Metallic
Uphostery: Sand Beige Nevada Leather
Options: Cold Weather Package (ZCW)
Premium Package (ZPP)
Technology package (ZTP)
Roof Rails in Aluminium Satin (3AT)
Satellite Radio with 1 year subscription(655)

And below is the price I Paid.
MSRP = $46,575 ($45,700 + Dest Charges: $875)
Invoice = $43,230 ($41,955 + Dest Charges: $875 + MACO: $200 + Training: $200)
And I placed the order for $44,500(Sale Price:$42,960.68 + Processing fee: $100 + 3% VA Sales Tax: 1,291.82 + Title & Tags: $147)

As per my calculations I am paying $270 less than invoice($43,230 - $42,960)

I have got an order number which is slated for production in Week 18(I am not sure if it is the 1st week of may or the 2nd week)

What do you guys think. Is this a good deal?
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:02 PM
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Sweet deal if you are under invoice on http://www.truecar.com/
Called a few places last week and best I got was Invoice + 500 Including (MACO + Training). Which is probably Invoice + 0 if MACO/Training is 500

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Old 04-18-2011, 10:44 AM
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Cant help what others right. My x6 ws a lemon and the reason BMW bought it back and offered me a great invoice only deal.
You can say that again!

Of course, I am talking about the word "right."

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Old 04-18-2011, 10:47 AM
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I found the X3 I wanted and just bought it on Saturday for dealer invoice:

X3 28i
Alpine White
Nevada black leather interior
sport appearance package
premium package
technology package
heated seats
heated steering wheel
xenon headlights

MSRP $47415
Invoice $44175
Would you be willing to name the dealer, Jeremy (I haven't scrolled further, but will)? Was the car on the lot, or ordered?

Thanks much.

Richard
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:32 PM
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Sweet deal if you are under invoice on http://www.truecar.com/
Called a few places last week and best I got was Invoice + 500 Including (MACO + Training). Which is probably Invoice + 0 if MACO/Training is 500
Will you be placing an order with them?
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:26 AM
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Would you be willing to name the dealer, Jeremy (I haven't scrolled further, but will)? Was the car on the lot, or ordered?

Thanks much.

Richard
McKenna BMW in Norwalk. The exact car I was looking for had just arrived in their inventory that same day. I negotiated dealer invoice with Chad, the sales manager, over the phone before even going to see it. The whole deal was extremely straight forward, no fuss. They could not have been more accommodating.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:43 AM
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When you all mean invoice pricing are you including the MACO/training fee of $400 and $200, respectively, on the X3 as this is a direct cost to the dealership?

When I placed my order earlier this week, the dealership e-mailed me the Vehicle Inquiry Report which listed both the invoice and MRSP. The MACO/training fee was a line item on the invoice cost, but was a N/C on the MRSP line. I believe that Costco, Zag and Edmunds are not listing the MACO/ training fee to calculate the invoice, but the dealerships are charged the MACO/training fee by BMWNA. Initially, I was $1314 over invoice as I didn't realize the additional $600 added to the invoice amount, but since the dealership has to pay this $600, my 'net' over invoice was $714. I was quoted $55,359 for car spec'd in my signature line. My BMWFS lease will based on posted customer loyalty rate MF (June 2011) and no markup on the bank fee.
I got mine for just about the same as you.

900 over invoice plus 398 Doc Fees (Extra profit) So 1300 less 600 for MACO and training is about 700 plus had Floor mats thrown in worth about $100 equates to about 600 over invoice.

No markups on MF or Dealer acquisition fee. I think a lot of people forget about the fact that dealers can mark these two items up for profit.

Maybe not the best deal out there but fair for both and great service so far.

I was also able to get the $500 in free accessories from the BMW Experience. Additional $500 from BMWCCA and $100 from BMW Credit Card so all in all I am pretty happy.


-CR

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Old 04-20-2011, 09:51 AM
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McKenna BMW in Norwalk. The exact car I was looking for had just arrived in their inventory that same day. I negotiated dealer invoice with Chad, the sales manager, over the phone before even going to see it. The whole deal was extremely straight forward, no fuss. They could not have been more accommodating.
So it looks like you were offered $1K over invoice. Not invoice, correct?
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:20 AM
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So it looks like you were offered $1K over invoice. Not invoice, correct?
I paid dealer invoice.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:47 AM
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RE:I paid dealer invoice." May dealerships have different pay plans for the upper management...some pay based on units..some on profit...some a mixture. Some GMs give away every car they can..others not so much.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:06 AM
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I got 6% off MSRP ... for a new 2011 X3 28i

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Old 04-20-2011, 12:22 PM
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I paid dealer invoice.
Hmm. ...maybe I missed something. I put your specs into edmunds and the factory invoice comes in about a $1K under the price you paid (Invoice $44175).

I am not trying to raise controversy but looking for the best deal myself here in So. Cal so it is helpful to hear everyone's experiences and feedback.
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Old 04-20-2011, 02:27 PM
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I picked up our 28i two days ago.

Titanium silver
Sport activity
Convenience
Cold weather
Premium
Technology
Satellite radio

MSRP: $48,850
Dest: $875
Total: $49,725
Price paid: $46,725

Invoice
Net: $44,820
Dest: $875
MACO: $300
Training: $200
Total: $46,195
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:53 PM
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Hmm. ...maybe I missed something. I put your specs into edmunds and the factory invoice comes in about a $1K under the price you paid (Invoice $44175).

I am not trying to raise controversy but looking for the best deal myself here in So. Cal so it is helpful to hear everyone's experiences and feedback.
I have found Edmunds to be unreliable in their vehicle options configuration so I stick with Kelly Blue Book and Yahoo Autos for this. The dealer invoice they produced was identical and matched exactly what the dealership offered me, and I didn't tell the dealership ahead of time what price I was expecting either. That was good enough for me.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:39 PM
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try truecar.com, I found it spot on usually
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:58 AM
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Factory Invoice (with 580 MACO/Training) + 400. Good interest at the 500 level but this dealer responded first with 400 so they won

The places that weren't interested at anything near invoice:
Bev Hills BMW
Santa Monica BMW

Places most interested in a deal:
Dealers from the outside LA area

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Old 05-09-2011, 07:29 AM
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So they bill your for sales people's training? Hot diggety, I guess I will charge back that much when I am ready order.

Everyone at all three dealerships knew less about the vehicle than I did (thanks to this forum).
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:37 AM
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The only "training" is how to seperate you from your money quickly!
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