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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-26-2011, 11:32 PM
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Question Crank,no fuel,no spark?

Hello, My 99 BMW 540i will not start.Everything comes on as normal and cranks over but no joy.There is no spark or fuel coming on.Anyone have an idea what's going on?
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Old 03-26-2011, 11:50 PM
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I believe a failure of the crankshaft position sensor prevents the engine from starting.

What P-code is stored?
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Old 03-27-2011, 03:17 AM
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Crank sensor

Yes I have seen that.But have a cheap OBDII reader and there is no fault codes coming up.Should the crank sensor bring up a fault code? The Car dose not register anything is wrong.I don't get it.The BMW dealer had a quick look and said it looks like the computer.But the computer gives read outs and communicates with the OBDII reader.
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Old 03-27-2011, 03:19 AM
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What is a P-code? I s that a picture of your Car? Looks good
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Old 03-27-2011, 09:02 AM
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What is a P-code? I s that a picture of your Car? Looks good
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:29 AM
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A crank sensor will not always throw a code. I would place my bet on the crank position sensor.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:45 AM
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Might be one of the fuses causing the problem. Check them all. There are fuses hiden under the cabin air filter cover under the hood on the passenger side of the car. There are also fuses located inside the car--check them all.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:13 AM
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Might be one of the fuses causing the problem. Check them all. There are fuses hiden under the cabin air filter cover under the hood on the passenger side of the car. There are also fuses located inside the car--check them all.
That would be my guess too. The fuses and the relays under the hood
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Old 03-28-2011, 09:28 AM
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P-codes are the generic OBD-II trouble codes. They take the form of "PXXXX", where the Xs are digits. A good scan tool will actually read out in English what a given code means.

There are also pending codes: if the ECU detects a fault, but it goes away, the ECU stores a pending P-code. Some scan tools won't read pending codes.

Bentley says a bad crankshaft sensor prevents engine starting. The code is P0335.

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Old 03-28-2011, 09:39 AM
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What is a P-code?

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Old 05-06-2011, 11:48 PM
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yes is looking like the crank position sensor.who knows.Have ordered a new master key.Will try that.If that don't work I give up.I will give it to the Dealer to figger out.You would think with a $150,000 price tag from new,they could get it rite. glad I didn't pay that.
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:13 PM
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Hello, My 99 BMW 540i will not start.Everything comes on as normal and cranks over but no joy.There is no spark or fuel coming on.Anyone have an idea what's going on?
1. Is there fuel in car?
2. Is the electric fuel pump running?
3. Have you checked the fuel pump relay?

There could be many different causes, you need to start eliminating potential causes to include the CPS as mentioned by other folks.

BTW the dealer sounds like an idiot.... when folks say it sounds like the "computer" it translates to "we don't know but we will charge the bejezus out of you"
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:12 AM
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yes plenty of fuel, fuel pump not coming on.Yes have checked fuel pump relay.Key was not the problem.no spark.Looking like I will be getting charged the bejezus out of me.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:34 AM
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yes plenty of fuel, fuel pump not coming on.Yes have checked fuel pump relay.Key was not the problem.no spark.Looking like I will be getting charged the bejezus out of me.
Ok, if the fuel pump is not coming on. You say you have checked the relay and it is good? Have you confirmed power at the fuel pump relay terminals? If yes did you jump terminals to see if fuel pump worked.

You have to keep tracking this upstream to find out the issue.

I would not give it to the dealer yet!

Hang in there, you will be able to figure it out
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:06 PM
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Crank,no fuel,no spark?

Hey guys did you ever find out why the 540i would not start? I have found myself in the same position with one of my BMW's , checked all fuses under hood, glove box, & trunk... Check fuel pump relay, has power, not sending to pump, jumped 30 / 87 to pump it works? Pulled plug no spark, battery is up to charge no problems, Im guessing cam & or crank sensor may be my problem! One of my scanners dont work on bmws, & i have a little cheaper scanner by actron that did attempt to read it but NO Codes, but have found out that not all scanner that work on BMW's will read the codes, so now looking for something better of ebay... Just wondering what was found?
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:25 PM
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Just solved a no start issue on my e39

Assisted by a hint in this thread.
My e39 2000 M5 had a no start issue. Checked the fuel pressure (at the shrader valve under the panel near the driver's seat) Pressure was fine, but there was no spark. (pulled a plug and propped it near ground.

Tracked it down to a blown 30a fuse in the little fuse block under the passenger side cabin air filter. Starts now.

Figured I'd post here for posterity.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:05 PM
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Thanks Moar having the same issue and really hope this it. Will check this tomorrow, hopefully my beast comes back alive.

Do you know why your fuse blew?
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Glad to hear that you figured out the issue. Do you recall which fuse number it was for future reference? Was it the ECM fuse?

Just in case some one else is experiencing no start issue's, This diagnostic guide may be helpful, the ECM relay can also be an issue.
BMW No-Start Diagnostic Guide DIY
http://blog.bavauto.com/3562/no-start-1989-325i-e30/

BMW 5 series E39 common no start issue

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