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Old 11-30-2013, 03:18 PM
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Best code reader for diesel?

What is in your opinion the best code reader for the diesel engine?
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:30 PM
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I'm happy with my Garmin ECO Route HD.

I can display engine performance in guage format while driving, scan for engine codes, reset them if resetable. Helps me decide when something is really serious or not.

It cost $99 as an option to the Garmin Nuvi.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:48 AM
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Cheap bluetooth OBD reader + BMWHat and/or Torque Pro. You get error codes, some coding options, parameters, etc., all well below $99.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:06 PM
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Cheap bluetooth OBD reader + BMWHat and/or Torque Pro. You get error codes, some coding options, parameters, etc., all well below $99.
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Works great.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:52 PM
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Never knew about the BMWhat app, but it looks fantastic. Wish it wasnt $50, but it does allow ya to code. Does anyone have any experience using the coding function? If so, does it work well? I currently use DashCommand app and WiFi OBDII.
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Old 12-03-2013, 04:16 AM
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Never knew about the BMWhat app, but it looks fantastic. Wish it wasnt $50, but it does allow ya to code. Does anyone have any experience using the coding function? If so, does it work well? I currently use DashCommand app and WiFi OBDII.
Coding works fine, just select module, option and available choices. It creates back ups, so you can always restore. Although the list of what you can code is very limited - you can check it on their website. For my x5 I coded probably 2 or 3 options like folding mirrors with remote and key autoeject. The developer promises to add more in free upgrades, who knows if it happens and when.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:52 AM
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Coding works fine, just select module, option and available choices. It creates back ups, so you can always restore. Although the list of what you can code is very limited - you can check it on their website. For my x5 I coded probably 2 or 3 options like folding mirrors with remote and key autoeject. The developer promises to add more in free upgrades, who knows if it happens and when.
Which Wifi OBD adapter have you been happy with?
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:49 AM
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I use a bluetooth one, not WiFI.

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So I've been emailing back and forth today with the app developer for BMWhat and true to his word, he updated the app to allow us to view some 60 engine parameters while driving our 335d vehicles. Here is a quick screen cap as I was driving this evening:

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Old 01-28-2014, 06:24 PM
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Nice! Is that app for iPhone only?

edit: Googled it, looks like they've got one for Android as well

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Old 01-28-2014, 06:47 PM
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Cheap bluetooth OBD reader + BMWHat and/or Torque Pro. You get error codes, some coding options, parameters, etc., all well below $99.
"BMW Hat"??? LOL
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Old 01-28-2014, 07:03 PM
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Nice! Is that app for iPhone only?

edit: Googled it, looks like they've got one for Android as well
Yep. I own a Nexus 5.
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Thanks Greek. Okay, its time to stop watching from the bleacher seats and get this.
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:22 AM
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The website for BMWhat clearly says it will NOT code F-series BMWs. It will only read OBD-II codes and possibly? perform resets. If this app is updated to code F-series cars, I'd be interested.
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:58 PM
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Thanks Greek. Okay, its time to stop watching from the bleacher seats and get this.
Get it. You won't be disappointed.

So the guy named Parvis who has developed this app told me that our engine has over 1,000 parameters that he's narrowed down to 60. I had the app running as I started the car up this morning in -17C weather here. I had the car warming at idle for about 8-10 minutes and the engine temperature was at 33C when I took off. I was surprised to see how fast the car got to 79C. Normal speeds and about 4 minutes later is all that it took. I was also surprised how close the coolant, oil and engine temperatures were. I took the pic below after 20 minutes of city driving as I arrived at work:



The next pic below is the "dashboard" aspect of the app and it seems that you can add a minimum and maximum value for each parameter. Haven't messed around with it but it looks cool:

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Greekboy, is EGT monitored through the app?
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:37 AM
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Greekboy, is EGT monitored through the app?
I can't remember off hand. I just emailed the app developer with your question.
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Old 01-31-2014, 06:42 AM
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This looks great! I would like to know which wifi transmitter works best and fits inside the compartment in the 335d so that the plastic trim cover fits over it.
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Old 01-31-2014, 07:27 AM
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Greekboy, is EGT monitored through the app?
Here is his email reply to me:

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There are several exhaust temp values already available



These 4 can be added in the next update, there are no more exhaust temp parameters than these…



Hopefully this is what you need ;-)

Exhaust gas temperature after the EGR cooler

Exhaust gas temperature upstream of the particle

Exhaust gas temperature before the catalytic converter (voltage value)

Exhaust gas temperature before the particle filter (voltage value)
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:10 AM
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Anyone know if BMWhat Apps can register the battery?
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Old 01-31-2014, 08:57 AM
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Anyone know if BMWhat Apps can register the battery?
This is what Parvis said in an email reply to me:

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...there will be small updates coming here and there – the next bigger one will be in several weeks…



We need to get feedback about the current functions and what should be added in the future…

Like DPF regeneration, battery change coding, dashboard individual settings, and what codings for whatever model like TV during driving etc…
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:04 AM
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This looks great! I would like to know which wifi transmitter works best and fits inside the compartment in the 335d so that the plastic trim cover fits over it.
I would vote for this too. A thin BT adapter. Otherwise, might have to pull off the panel and unbolt the OBD2 header to push it back -- not a desireable solution for future diagnostics.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:18 AM
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I would vote for this too. A thin BT adapter. Otherwise, might have to pull off the panel and unbolt the OBD2 header to push it back -- not a desireable solution for future diagnostics.
As I have an IOS device, not Android, I recently bought a OBD Wifi adapter, but I haven't tried it out yet. Since it will warm up a bit this weekend maybe I'll try it with the trial version of BWMHat.

As far as hiding it away, I will post a picture later, but it definitely will not allow the OBD cover to go back on. I currently let my BMS CAN tool stay in place all the time, and I snake the cord under my floor protector and back along the driver's door to the back seats floor. Then when I need to I can just reach back with my left hand and read/clear codes on the fly.

With this Wifi device I need to decide which one I will leave connected all the time. I imagine I will use it as my exception device and leave the CAN tool connected most of the time. But I may change my mind after I try the BMWhat app.
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As I have an IOS device, not Android, I recently bought a OBD Wifi adapter, but I haven't tried it out yet. Since it will warm up a bit this weekend maybe I'll try it with the trial version of BWMHat.

As far as hiding it away, I will post a picture later, but it definitely will not allow the OBD cover to go back on. I currently let my BMS CAN tool stay in place all the time, and I snake the cord under my floor protector and back along the driver's door to the back seats floor. Then when I need to I can just reach back with my left hand and read/clear codes on the fly.

With this Wifi device I need to decide which one I will leave connected all the time. I imagine I will use it as my exception device and leave the CAN tool connected most of the time. But I may change my mind after I try the BMWhat app.
You will.
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I just bought the bluetooth dongle from the developers: I figured I don't want to waste time looking for one and their price is very reasonable. I look forward to receive it: one issue I run into with DIS is that it doesn't properly read the backpressure before the DPF... Also it's one of those geeky cool toy that I just can't leave without.

After sending an email asking info on features and functionalities they suggested to check on the forums for other suggestions. There are a couple things I've been using in the DIS in the past which I end up calling maintenance routines. They are basically a series of steps and actions taken in certain maintenance intances. Here's a few I've used:

Bleeding the fuel system: after changing the fuel filter on Diesel there's a routing that removes the air in the fuel line. First, with the engine off, it cycles the fuel pump to remove the bulk of the air. It then ask you to turn on the car and it increases the fuel rail pressure to remove any residual air. Not critical, but it doesn't let all the air get to the HPFP that never likes running dry

xDrive reset: after replacing the transfer case fluid, this routine resets the adaptation of the wet clutch that controls the xDrive. Not sure exactly what it does but when activated you can hear the servo on the TC moving. Again, not critical, but if it's there, why not use it

Brake system bleeding if for any reason air is introduced in the brake system before the ABS module, it's hard or impossible to properly purge the system. Examples include replacement of the master cylinder. This routine I've never actively used it, but it either activate the DSC pump or opens the ABS module so that air can properly be purged.

Driver seat position reset sometime when I'm cleaning the car I move the driver seat front and back all the way. In certain occasions I get a message in the iDrive saying that I need to reset the driver seat position. The owner's manual has a procedure to do it, but I can never get it to work. In DIS is a 1-click operations where the car automatically moves the driver seat back and forth to reset.

These are just some top of mind things I can think of since I've used them... Others may have more.
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