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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 01-06-2017, 06:19 PM
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Removed starter from 540i and this piece of metal came out.....

A piece of the engine broke where the starter bolts are.


Has anyone had this issue happen.....? any work around for this??? Plz help


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Old 01-06-2017, 06:24 PM
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Oh jeez... That's not good.
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Old 01-06-2017, 06:57 PM
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That's new motor time

You might get a welder to fix it, very small area to weld in.
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:11 PM
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I managed to get it back in. Line up that piece that came off (which was a piece of the engine) back to where the engine and trannny meet up. Luckily it was easy. Ugh dodged a huge bullet. I just don't see how that could of happened.


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Old 01-07-2017, 05:43 AM
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But... It's going to come off again at the worst possible time, allowing your starter to come away...

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Old 01-07-2017, 08:02 AM
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Is it? Do you know that? Lol. I'd say the chance is a lot better than changing the motor.

Did you at least get some metal epoxy on it when you put it back in? Looks like the piece cracked off. I'd at least try to put something else on there to hold it in place.


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Old 01-07-2017, 08:26 AM
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Damn. That sucks.

Though theres nothing I think you could do about it but maybe a good mechanic indy could tig weld (aluminum right?) it back on or use a metal expoxy like others have said.

I dont know how much stress the starter exhorts on that piece when turning over an engine so epoxy might not even work
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:33 AM
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Ordinarily I hate to be negative... But I've seen this kind of thing before.
If it was just one of the two holes that had been broken through, yeah a bit of metal epoxy might do the trick. But this... This will need to be spot welded with a TIG in the least. There's quite a twisting moment when the starter engages. Sure it may hold for a while, but it won't hold forever. Usually when things like this let go again Murphy has a hand to play.

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Old 01-07-2017, 09:08 AM
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It can crack if the transmission is removed and when reinstalling someone tries to draw it into place using the bell housing bolts.
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:49 PM
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It can crack if the transmission is removed and when reinstalling someone tries to draw it into place using the bell housing bolts.
Eyupp..classic fatal rookie mistake. "if it doesn't fit, force it!"
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:00 PM
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Yea.... the thing is I'm not a rookie. The piece just came out with the starter. If you would of read my post I said it came out with the starter


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Old 01-08-2017, 09:55 PM
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Sorry for the wrong impression Berkeley. Meant no reflection on you... I have been following this post and had read all including yours. Never assumed you were responsible. It's a bad deal for you. I feel bad, come up against this kind of thing myself before


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Old 01-09-2017, 08:25 AM
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There is jb weld steel epoxy try it it may help you
Good luck
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:32 AM
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That section acts like a big spacer so far as the starter is involved. It needs to be in place for the starter but it no longer serves to help draw the tranny down tight. No loss there, really. But the starter has to have the broken piece in place to work, obviously; and it can't fall off. Or you're screwed. If it was mine, I'd fit it in place, secure it however but I'd arc weld the perimeter with some tack welds to permanently afix it. Then if you ever change out the tranny, just grind off the tack welds and remove the offending member.


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Old 01-09-2017, 12:15 PM
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JB Weld and crossed fingers.
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