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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old Yesterday, 03:03 PM
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Cool 540i New Engine cost

I have a 2003 540i 6 speed sport package which I love. I had a problem with heavy smoke from the exhaust on start up, and replace a torn breather. After this, the car still smoked and I had BMW check the car. They found slightly worn valve guides and #7 cylinder with a low compression of 155psi (1-6 and 8 are 175-185psi). Low performance cylinder leak down test found hot 24% leakage through crank case pass piston rings, cold 40% leakage through crank case pass piston rings in cylinder #7. They recommended living with the problem until power loss as the only fix is to rebuild the engine.

Through a friend, I can get a BMW factory EOM engine installed parts/labor/tax included for $12,000. Should I go ahead and is this a good price?
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Since pricing is so wide spread across the country it's hard for anyone to say. If someone quoted me 12k I think I would ask them if that includes a ex-large tub of Vaseline. But 12k here compared to lets say new york may be a good deal. The main question is do you feel like your getting a reasonable deal and is the it worth it to you to drop 12k into a car thats worth less then that.
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Old Yesterday, 05:12 PM
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Get a used engine.
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It's time for a GM 6.0 conversion. You can do it for a whole lot less than 12k and you will be able to eat M5's and M6's with a single turbo.....done
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Old Yesterday, 05:26 PM
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Give it to me , jk.

Seriously 12k? Take the money and run. You might as well buy a another 540i with that kind of money.

Used engines are a fraction of the cost, heck, you can buy ANY used engine and probably rebuild it for less that what the dealer is charging.
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Old Yesterday, 05:31 PM
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12k for the engine just get another 540i 6 spds with low mile I have an 00 540i 6 spds m-sports had smoke problem b4 but was the CCV at the back of intake manifold had also bad compression on cylinder # 4 drove for 2 years with no problem but I crew my timing while doing the lower tensioner so found an engine from 01 740i with 135k mi for $1400 and $1000 for labor the engine is so power damn
12k I buy 06 545i manual with less than 100k


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Old Yesterday, 05:36 PM
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just buy a remanufacttured long block
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does the rebuilt engine come with a new car?

Run it till it cant be ran anymore.. Then find someone who will rebuild it for about 5grand... cause thats what it should cost 5-6k
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Old Yesterday, 07:25 PM
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All, okay either I am crazy or you all are. I love the car and am a freak to keep it neat and original. My mechanic also said I am crazy to spend $12k. He said live with the start up smoke and cylinder leak as the care has plenty of power, and changed oil to Motul racing oil adding Lucas Oil Stabilizer to "clean out the gunk, maybe free the oil cylinder ring or all the rings". He wants me to give it time and good oil.

I can buy another 2003 540i 6 speed (2 in Autotrader currenty) but I buy a host of unknown maintenance. I have kept my 540i "perfect" even to the back sun screen connections (see
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Sell it, take the 12k your thinking of spending amd get a well maintained M5, you wont be sorry. Its what I would do!

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Old Yesterday, 09:40 PM
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I have one suggestion:
Not sure where you live, but, the community colleges have an engine rebuilding class. They have the tools, you just take the class.
Get it done for only the cost of parts. Plus, the instructor will help you when you need it.
You will have a completely rebuilt engine for cheap!
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This thread may help:
- What are the major factors in deciding whether to rebuild the engine, replace the engine, or sell the car (1)

See also:
- Summary advice to provide users who suspect a major engine repair due to overheating (1) (2) (3) (4) & how to test an engine for a blown head gasket, cracked heads, a warped block, stripped head bolt threads, cam seizures, contaminated bearings, coolant hydrolock, or piston, ring, or valve damage (1) (2) & what are the major factors in deciding whether to rebuild the engine, replace the engine, or sell the car (1) & a DIY for replacing the I6 M54 head gasket (1) (2) & replacing the V8 M62TU head gasket (1) & why these engines are so prone to heat-related damage in the first place (1) & welding the crack between cylinder #3 and the water jacket on the exhaust side (1) & what engine swaps are most recommended (1) (2) (3) & where to obtain a new or rebuilt head (1) replacement short block or long block (1) (2) & how to lift & remove the engine (1) & the most recent real-world results from the last 50 people faced with similar blown engine problems from which this advice came from (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) (14) (15) (16) (17) (18) (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24) (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) (32) (33) (34) (35) (36) (37) (38) (39) (40) (41) (42) (43) (44) (45) (46) (47) (48) (49) (50)
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Old Yesterday, 10:42 PM
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Who knows cars? No one if u think you took good care of the bimmer this shouldn't happen to you are the crazy one . If you want another 03 540i 6spds you find plenty of them with low mile in the US with all the service records with $12k I was told to stay away from rebuilt engine mostly u will deal with those faulty codes for the rest of the bimmer life as u know your engine is not healthy anymore. Anyway it Is your money
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absolutely NOT

The car is aging, and there is no way you'd ever recoup the engine cost alone. Probably best is to either sell it 'as is' or find a junkyard replacement motor, out of a wreck...the cost is prohibitive and you'd never recover it...IMHO..

you got the $ and want it, go for it, who is anyone to tell you what to do with your money, but I'd not invest in a loser like that...Don't get me wrong I love my car as much as the next guy...but12k?
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