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Old 05-03-2016, 02:41 AM
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2007 328i - temporarily disable airbag?

My 2007 328i has a recall for driver side airbag (courtesy of Takata). Expected replacement is mid to late summer. Need to drive car, but don't like the risk. Looking for way to temporarily disable airbag, such as, disconnecting wiring or removing fuse. Don't want to destroy anything, but don't want a face full of shrapnel either. Suggestions?
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Statistically, your at a far greater risk of injury and death with the airbag disabled, then enabled. That's why the US government hasn't mandated that vehicles have them disabled or that all cars be parked. There's not enough rentals or loaners to go around.

For every failure, there's been probably 1000+ successful deployments.
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You can't unplug the airbag. If you do, the entire airbag system will be disabled and none of the airbags will work. Anytime there is an airbag light on, the entire system is disabled.

The airbag can be coded off but as mentioned, is not recommended.
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:54 PM
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What if the fuse for the driver side airbag was pulled?
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Just drive it. The percentage of faulty airbags is extremely small; it's not like every one of the Takata air bags is faulty, extremely few are. You are MUCH safer driving with the airbag enabled than disabled. My wife and I each have a recalled BMW but we're not concerned about leaving the air bags enabled.

Pulling the fuse or disconnecting it may disable the bag, but I believe that many of them have capacitors that hold a charge after the bag is disconnected.

All in all, leave it alone. You're safer that way.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:41 PM
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My 2007 328i has a recall for driver side airbag (courtesy of Takata). Expected replacement is mid to late summer. Need to drive car, but don't like the risk. Looking for way to temporarily disable airbag, such as, disconnecting wiring or removing fuse. Don't want to destroy anything, but don't want a face full of shrapnel either. Suggestions?
I'm in the same boat and I live in the hot, muggy, pestilential swamp that is Florida.

I understand your concern as they say not to sit in the front seat if it's passenger airbag but if it's on the drivers side the risk is low and it's no big deal.

Unfortunately there is no simple way to do it. From what I understand you would have to plug something into the harness to make it think the airbag was still there and I suspect they would rather downplay the risk than go to the trouble and expense of creating an emulator and having customers bring the car in to have it installed only to have to bring them back to install the replacement airbag.

If you really feel uncomfortable enough not to drive the car you should talk to BMW about it. I understand they'll provide rentals in these cases. I've never had an accident in almost 50 years of driving so I'm taking my chances with it.
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What if the fuse for the driver side airbag was pulled?
There is no fuse for just the driver's airbag. Even if there was, the MRS/ACSM module would register it as a faulty airbag and trip the light, disabling the entire system.
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I doubt BMW will provide rentals. It's going to be a looooong time before I expect to see a replacement. If it happens in the next year I'll be surprised.
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I doubt BMW will provide rentals. It's going to be a looooong time before I expect to see a replacement. If it happens in the next year I'll be surprised.

I'm not sure what's available but this is from the recall notice:

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Will BMW give me alternate transportation until a repair part is available?
If replacement parts are not available, BMW has authorized its centers to provide or assist
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:21 PM
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Thanks for everyone's concern for my safety. My wife shares your concern, and insists that I stay safe, which means "don't drive the BMW". We've survived a lot in our 56 years together, so I have learned to listen. The chance of having any accident is low, and I really do like this car so disabling the airbag until it's replaced is not a big concern. BMW of Honolulu won't discuss a loaner, but did offer a special deal on a trade. So, guess I'll keep looking.
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Read this thread about BMW providing rentals. Looks like none BMW rental but it's something:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...=airbag+recall
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It is only the driver side airbag in recalled 840000 BMWs (do not know if the recently added 35-40 Million makes the airbag on the passenger side also prone to possible failure)

"The vehicles have Takata's PSDI-5 driver side airbag inflators, and the parts could rupture in a crash."

The problem: 29 Million recalled cars in USA and possibly 35-40 Million more as of a statement issued today. Only 2.18 Million rental cars in the all USA rental fleets.
BMW alone can use up 39% of the entire USA rental fleet.


The odds are low that you would be involved in an incident, but they are there! As of mid-April, of 34 Million affected cars, there was a New York Times report in September 2015 whicdh found a total of at least 139 reported injuries across all automakers, and there are 10 deaths as of mid April 2016, with most of the deaths in Hondas, out of over 1.2 Million airbag deployments.

So WHEN your airbag deploys, you have
1:8633 chance of injury, (139:1,200,000)
1:120,000 chance of death (10:1,200,000)
1:28 chance of being in a car whose airbag deployed (1,200,000:34,000,000)
  1. so your chance of being in a car whose airbag deploy AND being injured by the airbag is (1*1) : (8633*28) or 1:234,200
  2. or your chance of being in a car whose airbag deployed AND being killed by the airbag deployment is 1:3,400,000

But we also know that of the 70,000,000 autos with affected Takata airbags, it is (so far) ONLY those installed in Hondas that have resulted in death!

Your odds of being struck by lightning are 1:700,000
Just curious, do any of the Bimmerfest folks KNOW someone who has been struck by lightning?

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Old 05-04-2016, 03:23 PM
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Love those statistics. As for lightning strikes, depends a lot on where one lives. Arizona and Florida residents are especially at risk, particularly if you live in Tampa. Lightning in Hawaii is primarily cloud-to-cloud, very few ground strikes. But the statistics you quote are basically out of our control. I believe that if you can reduce any odds then you should do so. Airbags were installed primarily because passengers refused to buckle-up. Not having a driver side airbag bothers me not at all. If something could happen, but you do nothing to mitigate the risks, shame on you. All I asked for when starting this thread was how to temporarily disable my driver-side airbag. Since that hasn't produced any results I see no reason to continue this thread.
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Old 05-04-2016, 04:22 PM
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Call BMWNA and tell them you feel uncomfortable driving the car. See if they can talk to your dealer. I'm betting very few are asking for a rental so it's not going to cost them that much.

If you ask, they decline, and you get hurt or killed the lawyers will eat them alive and they know it.

If everybody blows you off send them a certified letter with return receipt. They almost always make folks sit up straight and pay attention.

A phone call is useless if they balk and they know it.
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