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Old 03-15-2015, 05:57 PM
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What issues to look out for when testing a used 06' 325i I want to buy?

I will be checking out an 06 325i and wanted to know what specifically should I check for when driving it and when looking/hearing the engine, electronics etc.

In other words, If you were buying this model for yourself, what is the list of things you must look out for when physically inspecting the car? This car has 70k miles, clear title, clean carfax ( I know I can't trust that 100%).

I have read that the water pump is a ticking bomb on these E90 and wonder if there is any way to check if it will go bust soon?. from what I've read it fails at any time regardless of the mileage; some say before 100k miles and other before 50k miles.

Thanks a lot for your insight. I am excited about this potential purchase, but want to minimize risk of a lemon!

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Old 03-15-2015, 06:31 PM
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Please don't be offended, but if you do not already know what to look for your best bet might be to find a BMW independent mechanic and pay for a pre-purchase inspection. They can really help find the good and bad of any car you might be interested in and the money will be well spent either way. Good luck!
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Old 03-15-2015, 06:52 PM
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If you want a bmw specifically, you need to study before you buy. For example, if you want a car to mod out and be powerful, you get a 330-335. If you just want comfort in the ultimate driving Machine you go 325-328. If you are just looking for a daily driver that will inexpensive to maintain, get a Chevy Cruze. Bmw are great but can be expensive. You need to know what you're getting into before something like this is decided.

That being said, what are your ideas/plans for this car???

That could really help us give you some insight.
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:08 PM
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Good points!

The car will be used as a daily driver.
I am not looking to mod it or drive it hard. I will not be complaining that it is slow.
I just want in on the least problematic BMW and for my budget I can afford the 325i, 330i or 2007 328i, but at this moment I can only find a 325i locally with relatively low mileage at 70k. There is a 330i with 100k miles for about the same price, but It might be better to get the less powerful with 30k less mileage.

I already called the local BMW dealer a few days ago since I too wanted to bring the potential purchase in for an inspection. They said to check the car out it will be $250 and I had to call ahead of time since they are always packed. In any case, I have to do my own "civilian" check in person before I convince the owner to allow the inspection. If I know what to look for I can have an idea if it is worth it to spend $250 on this car. Now if I can't find anything wrong and everything checks out by me, then I will still take it for inspection, but even then I want to be knowledgeable to make sure the dealer has covered the most failure prone areas on this particular model.

I already know about the water pump, but not sure if even a dealer can tell me if it will be failing soon. Can they tell by a pre purchase inspection?

hope this helps guys, I appreciate your replies.
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:18 PM
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Get a 200 point inspection. And don't take to a dealer. Look around see if you can find an Indy shop that specializes in bmw. It will be maybe half the cost. I don specifically know about the model you're looking at. My friend has one with 90k miles and he loves it. Same as you, he just wanted a nice daily. Nothing crazy fast or to mod. So, I'd say like I say to anyone, study study study.

Make sure it doesn't over heat. Let it run for a while.
Drive it. Does it it feel smooth?
Get an inspection.
get service records. Make sure it was well maintained. A lot of people sell cars when they see problems coming and disguise them to the buyer.
Just be weary and don't make a rash decision.

also, dealer or private seller?
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Old 03-15-2015, 07:57 PM
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hmmmm 2006

I had late 2006 built 325i E92 with 27,000km when I sold it cos it gave me $7000 bills in 25,000km : steering wheel lock, battery, ABS Module

so check for ABS module and steering wheel column

Personally I don't want to touch 2006 E9x.... they just have too many electronic issues
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:19 PM
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Seller is a not a dealer. Just a local guy advertising his car for sale.

I have been reading the reviews on edmunds and it is kind of scary. I mean, so much actually goes wrong with these cars. Too many electronics that can fail at any time..
From what I have read so far, it sounds more and more that ownership of a BMW is an expensive gamble.

I am really sad about it because I always wanted to own a BMW.. it seems that I should be looking to buy maybe an Infiniti G35 or g37 or maybe a Lexus IS 250 since I do not want to be paranoid all the time waiting for something to fail and find out it is 1k to fix.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:46 PM
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Easy way to cure issues is to lace your sneakers really tight and run far, far away! If you are unfamiliar with Bmw's and not mechanically inclined you may want to consider a more reliable vehicle.
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can you pay extra few thousands and get a 328i LCI model

much more reliable
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:03 AM
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can you pay extra few thousands and get a 328i LCI model

much more reliable
Can't find one locally. only the 325i and 330i.
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:45 AM
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I think I would wait and try to find a 330i. When I was looking for cars I test drove both and they 330 was obviously much more fun to drive. My only regret with my car is it has an automatic transmission.
As far as engines and reliability the 325 and 330 are based on the n52 but the 325 is a "neutered" version of the one you get in the 330. The N52 is pretty solid engine and won't let you down unless it's been abused.
Speaking of reliability I don't think you should stray away from all high mileage cars. Mine had 94k miles when I had bought it but the condition it's in you'd think it was just built so I think mileage doesn't play as big a role when the PO has taken really good care of the car.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:54 AM
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Seller is a not a dealer. Just a local guy advertising his car for sale.

I have been reading the reviews on edmunds and it is kind of scary. I mean, so much actually goes wrong with these cars. Too many electronics that can fail at any time..
From what I have read so far, it sounds more and more that ownership of a BMW is an expensive gamble.

I am really sad about it because I always wanted to own a BMW.. it seems that I should be looking to buy maybe an Infiniti G35 or g37 or maybe a Lexus IS 250 since I do not want to be paranoid all the time waiting for something to fail and find out it is 1k to fix.
YOu can buy any of those and have problems, but the Lexus is the most reliable. If you want what you get by buying a premium label, be prepared to pay when it comes time for repairs. Having a local indy shop is a bonus. But even having a local DEALER can be handy. I live an hour away from any of them.
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:37 AM
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Speaking of reliability I don't think you should stray away from all high mileage cars. Mine had 94k miles when I had bought it but the condition it's in you'd think it was just built so I think mileage doesn't play as big a role when the PO has taken really good care of the car.
I do not buy the argment that a well maintained car prevents the need for repairs...how does preventative maintenance prevent plastic coolant tank from blowing its guts and draining your coolant curbside at a friend's house on Halloween, or prevent a fuel pump from dying and leaving you stranded on a trip?! Preventive maintenance on a CCV? All that happened to ME, the original owner of an E46 which meticulously was maintained per BMW standard for its entire period under my ownership!

The E46 had $7k of non-maintenance repairs from 85k - 140k. My prior car, an E36, was also purchased new and driving for 135k meticulously serviced miles, and had about $4k-5k of repair requirements between 100k-135k.

This gives you an idea of the kinds of expenses you might expect (this data for E46), and the mileage points that I ran into the need for repairs, in spite of meticulous maintainance as the original owner of a car with new car service and extended (7 yr. 100k) service policy...

front wheel bearings 88.7
belts 88.7
dme camshaft sensor 90.8
fuel pump 100.7

belts 114.7
water pump 114.7
Thermostat 114.7
oil level sensor 114.7 (actually failed at about 90k, delayed replacement....I had a dipstick to fall back on and tell me reality!)
valve cover gasket 114.7
stereo amplifier terminals 114.7 (due to bodyshop incomplete weld)
stereo amplifier 114.7 (due to bodyshop incomplete weld)
radiator hoses 114.7
alternator idler pulley 114.7
oil filter gasket 127.9
windshield washer pump 127.9
a/c tensioner 127.9
power steering hose 127.9
power steering hose from tank 127.9
power steering hose from cooler 127.9
radiator expansion tank 133.9
CCV 133.9



ROUTINE maintenance after expiration of new car service and extended (7 yr. 100k) service policy:

coolant flush 88.7
Pads, rotor, sensors 100.7
brake flush 114.7
coolant flush 114.7
fuel filter 114.7
spark plugs 114.7
Pads, rotor, sensors 133.9

Things break and wear out!

Generally BMWs seem pretty free of stuff (other than water pump, thermostat) until about 90-100k, then many things need replacement simply due to time/miles and underhood heat...lots of plastics now under hood for weight considerations, and high underhood temps (for emissions reasons) acceleratre plastics getting brittle.
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Old 03-18-2015, 12:25 PM
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I do not buy the argment that a well maintained car prevents the need for repairs...how does preventative maintenance prevent plastic coolant tank from blowing its guts and draining your coolant curbside at a friend's house on Halloween, or prevent a fuel pump from dying and leaving you stranded on a trip?! Preventive maintenance on a CCV? All that happened to ME, the original owner of an E46 which meticulously was maintained per BMW standard for its entire period under my ownership!



The E46 had $7k of non-maintenance repairs from 85k - 140k. My prior car, an E36, was also purchased new and driving for 135k meticulously serviced miles, and had about $4k-5k of repair requirements between 100k-135k.



This gives you an idea of the kinds of expenses you might expect (this data for E46), and the mileage points that I ran into the need for repairs, in spite of meticulous maintainance as the original owner of a car with new car service and extended (7 yr. 100k) service policy...



front wheel bearings88.7

belts88.7

dme camshaft sensor90.8

fuel pump100.7



belts114.7

water pump114.7

Thermostat114.7

oil level sensor114.7 (actually failed at about 90k, delayed replacement....I had a dipstick to fall back on and tell me reality!)

valve cover gasket114.7

stereo amplifier terminals114.7 (due to bodyshop incomplete weld)

stereo amplifier114.7 (due to bodyshop incomplete weld)

radiator hoses114.7

alternator idler pulley114.7

oil filter gasket127.9

windshield washer pump127.9

a/c tensioner127.9

power steering hose127.9

power steering hose from tank127.9

power steering hose from cooler127.9

radiator expansion tank133.9

CCV133.9







ROUTINE maintenance after expiration of new car service and extended (7 yr. 100k) service policy:



coolant flush88.7

Pads, rotor, sensors100.7

brake flush114.7

coolant flush114.7

fuel filter114.7

spark plugs114.7

Pads, rotor, sensors133.9



Things break and wear out!



Generally BMWs seem pretty free of stuff (other than water pump, thermostat) until about 90-100k, then many things need replacement simply due to time/miles and underhood heat...lots of plastics now under hood for weight considerations, and high underhood temps (for emissions reasons) acceleratre plastics getting brittle.

I was thinking more along the lines of major failures that can be prevented. Things break after a cars done a lot of miles and you really can't stop that. Most of my friends won't buy high mileage cars because they think they'll just be unrepairable after a short time. That was where I was coming from I should've worded it better.
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Geezus, how could everyone forget the doorlock actuators that are bound to fail? An expensive fix.

The OP should research 'problems' with this year, make, model car in:

safercar.gov

Search for 'complaints.'

He will be enlightened.
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