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Old 04-07-2011, 05:13 AM
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Akebono brake pads

Hello guys I just have a quick question....Are the Akebono pads the only pads on the market that provides less brake dust on the wheels? if not can you provide some info on the others?

I would like to reduce dust on my wheels but the thought of less stopping power is not something I think I can deal with.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:44 AM
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Tirerack has some other options including ATE and Hawk. They have a scale that compares Stopping Power, Noise, and Dust. By their scale Hawk has the best stopping power but Akebono has the least noise and brake dust.

I recently had the Akebono's installed and can tell you for sure they WILL stop the car. Just yesterday some yahoo swerved in front of me and immediately slammed on his brakes to make an illegal u-turn on a 7 lane road. I in-turn had to slam on my brakes less than 1/2 a car length from him and I didn't hit him.

See this link for more info on the brakes: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...Standard+Tires
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:52 AM
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bavauto also has some other options. Pagid reds have wayyy less dust but still def still dust, I had installed them on my e46 and the braking power was same as stock.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:33 AM
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All ceramic pads has less dust, more life, and very quiet, some of them good in brake power as Akebonos some not
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:39 AM
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Thanks guys I really appreciate your input I'll look in to this right now....but I had one other question I think I read somewhere that changing the pads and rotors may help with stopping power. What are your thoughts on that? I may be quoting the article wrong but either way, will changing the brake pads and rotors at the same time help with stopping power.

What I would like to do is get some Drilled or Slotted rotors (not both and I'm leaning towards Slotted), and some dust reducing pads and for my car as my first upgrade and would like to retain the same or very close to the same stopping power as the factory pads and rotors.
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Thanks guys I really appreciate your input I'll look in to this right now....but I had one other question I think I read somewhere that changing the pads and rotors may help with stopping power. What are your thoughts on that? I may be quoting the article wrong but either way, will changing the brake pads and rotors at the same time help with stopping power.

What I would like to do is get some Drilled or Slotted rotors (not both and I'm leaning towards Slotted), and some dust reducing pads and for my car as my first upgrade and would like to retain the same or very close to the same stopping power as the factory pads and rotors.
I replace rotors with pads automatically. I use Brembo blanks and have been very happy with them. If you can get ABS to engage on dry pavement nothing you do to your brakes is going to reduce your stopping distance. You can improve feel, fading issues and the sort, but you will not shorten the stopping distance. Other, non brake, changes would have to be made to reduce stopping distance. Drilled/slotted you may find an increase in noise and dust and a decrease in pad life. You will find the Akebono to have more of a progressive feel with less initial bite but no reduction in stopping distance. I run them.
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I replace rotors with pads automatically. I use Brembo blanks and have been very happy with them. If you can get ABS to engage on dry pavement nothing you do to your brakes is going to reduce your stopping distance. You can improve feel, fading issues and the sort, but you will not shorten the stopping distance. Other, non brake, changes would have to be made to reduce stopping distance. Drilled/slotted you may find an increase in noise and dust and a decrease in pad life. You will find the Akebono to have more of a progressive feel with less initial bite but no reduction in stopping distance. I run them.
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:22 AM
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I replace rotors with pads automatically. I use Brembo blanks and have been very happy with them. If you can get ABS to engage on dry pavement nothing you do to your brakes is going to reduce your stopping distance. You can improve feel, fading issues and the sort, but you will not shorten the stopping distance. Other, non brake, changes would have to be made to reduce stopping distance. Drilled/slotted you may find an increase in noise and dust and a decrease in pad life. You will find the Akebono to have more of a progressive feel with less initial bite but no reduction in stopping distance. I run them.
Very good information here....based on it I will get a set of pads and install them with the current rotors since they are fairly new and see how that works out for me. Thanks allot.
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Definitely change your rotors, think about it you will be giving yourself a complete brake job with no squeaking and full stopping power..
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Definitely change your rotors, think about it you will be giving yourself a complete brake job with no squeaking and full stopping power..
This makes allot of sense, however I'm hesitant on doing a complete break job because I really love the way the car drives and stop right now and don't want to mess that up. But with that said I my like it even more with the new stuff, I really want performance rotors (cosmetic look of course) but I hear that they come with problems on of which is squeaking and I hate squeaking this is why I said I would just replace the pads and see how that works out.

Now based on your post/comment you say there may be squeaking if I add new pads to old rotors and I kind of agree because I think I remember this happening a while back on my Lexus after I changed just the pads.

Since you suggest getting rotors as well as pads and you know what my intentions are, what would you recommend? Thanks
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Old 04-11-2011, 07:58 AM
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People here seem to love the Akebonos, If I were u and didnt go with oem I would choose those as well...Less brake dust and same braking power just not the initial bite of the oem..plus u save a ton of cash on install..I would get some comparable rotors, that are pretty decent as well.. If u go on amazon.com they also sell the oem bmw pads & rotors if u want to purchase those.. There are several sites guys here use, but also check out amazon they have alot to offer as well.
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If your current rotors dont have a lip, just reuse them. If they are styarting to look like **** swap them out to, its an extra 10min job and its sooo easy on these cars, I had never done brakes before, and now I've done my e46 328 and the 750.. If your good with tools and your hands its a simple job.
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Change rotors with first time akebono pads. I used fairly decent previous rotos with new akebono pads and it's almost 4 months now and I still have squeeking. Once you change rotors when installing akebono pads first time around, then the second time won't be necessary if you're renewing your akebono pads. You'll also have better braking.
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@ Wilassasin I hear ya man I am just trying to get this right...I'm tired of the break dust and constant cleaning of my wheels which is why i'm looking into these pads.

@ 1bad540 I have no problem with tools I use to be a M1 Abrams Mechanic so i'm very familiar with tools lol, I'll check for a lip on my rotors though but since I don't drive the car that much ( about 2 months each year) and I had the brakes done the last time I drove it I don't forsee it having a lip. But who knows I might just have one, but if I have to change rotors I REALLY want drilled rotors I had them on my Lexus and never had any problems with them no cracking or anything.

@ Mj754 I am definitely considering changing both because squeaking is my enemy I hate driving luxury cars with squeaky breaks, it happend to me once in a Lexus LS400 and it was so embarassing and I don't want this to happen to me again in my 7 lol.

All valid points guys and I really appreciate your input, thank you.
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I didnt change my rotors and you wont get squeeking, my rotors were close to new though. if you have more than 30k miles on the rotors change them, if not leave them alone.
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I didnt change my rotors and you wont get squeeking, my rotors were close to new though. if you have more than 30k miles on the rotors change them, if not leave them alone.
Got it, I'll check my service record (paper work) and do the math and then go from there...thanks
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I didnt change my rotors and you wont get squeeking, my rotors were close to new though. if you have more than 30k miles on the rotors change them, if not leave them alone.
+1 MY rotors only have 20k on them. I always LIGHTLY sand my rotors so that new pads can seat. No since in replaceing unless they have lips on edges. Just my 2 cents. Abekonos are great.


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After 13,000+ miles and daily wheel cleaning, I gave up on the OE pads.

I called Andy Porterfield, long time racer and owner of Porterfield Enterprises. Told him of my problem and need for excellent braking power as I tow race car, trailer, tools, etc. that weighs 5,000 lbs. He recommended, and I bought their Carbon Kevlar pads for the front of my E70.

WOW! What a difference. Still not quite as little dusting as my wife's E350 (which is virtually none). But, a 1,000% improvement. And, they stop as well as OE.

I highly recommend them.
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Akebono Euro Ceramic pads, Zimmerman rotors, and new sensors are less than the $394 I paid through www.fcpeuro.com using coupon code bmwprelaunch (this saves 15%). For this price you cannot lose...just give yourself a complete new brake job and you wont worry about squeaks.I run this setup and love it. Stopping power is not an issue and zero dust.


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Scuff the rotors slightly and you will be fine. and the squeaking is caused by the installation of the pads; you need to either grease or use stop-squeak on the back of the PADs during install. That damps the harmonic of the pad against the rotor and stops the squeaking. Even new pads/rotors will squeal without proper prep.
My last car had 4-pot brembos all around and with semi met pads had to grease the back of the pads about once a year, and that was after adding Ti shims and a counter weight.
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After 13,000+ miles and daily wheel cleaning, I gave up on the OE pads.

I called Andy Porterfield, long time racer and owner of Porterfield Enterprises. Told him of my problem and need for excellent braking power as I tow race car, trailer, tools, etc. that weighs 5,000 lbs. He recommended, and I bought their Carbon Kevlar pads for the front of my E70.

WOW! What a difference. Still not quite as little dusting as my wife's E350 (which is virtually none). But, a 1,000% improvement. And, they stop as well as OE.

I highly recommend them.
Do you have a link for these pads? I would like to see about them myself.
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Nevermind I misread your post earlier....lol
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