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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 05-05-2011, 11:21 AM
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Nothing like a good argument.

I doubt the X3 will ever get close to a real M Class machine. BMW seems to be milking the M badge for all its worth and that is a shame. Making a few changes and slapping some badges on does not make it an M, It just waters down the product.

All In All, I stand behind my statement that even without DHP, the X3 is still better than anything else in it's class, and I have driven with and without and against others. (JMO)

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Old 05-05-2011, 11:23 AM
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Evlengr,

If I were you, I'd hang on to the '08. 6MT is getting more and more precious. I don't think you'd want to give up on that - more fun and also more reliable. Plus you have a spare tire.

Comparing the X3 to Q5, one notable difference to me is the brakes. I don't have objective test data, but the brakes certainly feel better in the X3. Hopefully Car and Driver do a comparison soon.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:28 AM
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Note: the sport auto transmission should be similar to that in the 5 series. The software for that sets up more aggressive / faster shifts than in the S mode of the standard transmission. It's not just the paddles. It's a $500 option for the 5.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:54 AM
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Evlengr,

If I were you, I'd hang on to the '08. 6MT is getting more and more precious. I don't think you'd want to give up on that - more fun and also more reliable. Plus you have a spare tire.

Comparing the X3 to Q5, one notable difference to me is the brakes. I don't have objective test data, but the brakes certainly feel better in the X3. Hopefully Car and Driver do a comparison soon.
I think a lot of what you feel in the brakes are the very soft compound BMW uses. It gives great stopping power but are very dusty as we can all attest. I believe that the use Ferodo pads but I am not 100% on that.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:56 AM
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Note: the sport auto transmission should be similar to that in the 5 series. The software for that sets up more aggressive / faster shifts than in the S mode of the standard transmission. It's not just the paddles. It's a $500 option for the 5.
I am not saying that I disagree with you on the software difference but if there is any, they sure don't advertise it and we know how car manufactures try and squeeze out any detail in their marketing info.

Maybe we could get a CA to find out for us.

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Old 05-05-2011, 08:26 PM
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The more I mull it over the more inclined I am to mod my X3 a bit. I work at night so when I go or come too work traffic is very light and I get to drive with purpose.

We shall see in a year. Who knows maybe by then they will have the X1 out and depending on the engine used I could mod that right off the bat and still have MT.

I agree with their marketing and knowledge of vehicles. 98% of the salespeople I talk to admit they know less than most of their customers. Pretty sad if you ask me.
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