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Old 09-24-2016, 08:44 AM
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Type of gas used on E90?

Hey Forum, just curious as to the type of gas everyone uses? I just acquired my slice of heaven and not sure if 93 premium is necessary considering that i have no plans to push the limits with her. Thanks everyone!
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:49 AM
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Yes 93 is the best, unless you have access to any higher octane. Stick with 93 & don't go any lower. I have been using 93 since the beggining. If it's a 335i, higher octane is a must... IMHO...
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I wish I could get 93 octane in california

I wish I could get 93 octane in California.
Here if you buy gas at a major its still north
of 3 bucks a gallon. I am not so penny pinching that the 20 cent difference
between premium and regular bothers me.
And the difference in mpg's makes it a wash anyway.
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Old 09-24-2016, 10:10 AM
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I wish I could get 93 octane in California.
Here if you buy gas at a major its still north
of 3 bucks a gallon. I am not so penny pinching that the 20 cent difference
between premium and regular bothers me.
And the difference in mpg's makes it a wash anyway.
It's $0.40 difference here in Silicon Valley. $2.55 for regular and $2.95 for the premium stuff.
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Old 09-24-2016, 10:11 AM
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I run strictly 93 octane in my 335I. I wish I could run higher, believe me I would.
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Hey Forum, just curious as to the type of gas everyone uses? I just acquired my slice of heaven and not sure if 93 premium is necessary considering that i have no plans to push the limits with her. Thanks everyone!
Although everyone else here is recommending 93+, it's unnecessary as the engine is tuned for max hp using 91 - you won't get any more hp by using 93. It is necessary to use a good (look up "Top Tier") gasoline with sufficient detergents.

Look at your gas cap/fuel door - probably says "91 Recommended". It will run ok on lower octane, but won't produce fully rated hp, nor will you get as good mileage.

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Old 09-24-2016, 11:14 AM
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On the East coast 93 octane is the standard for premium fuel. Regular is 87, intermediate is 89 and premium is 93. I've owned my 335 since 2008 and have always run 93. I would run 91 but it's not available here.
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Old 09-24-2016, 12:20 PM
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In the US o'A, any commonly available gasoline will work.

The higher the octane the higher the performance.

You decide....
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Old 09-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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Costco top tier 93 is priced fairly
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Old 09-24-2016, 12:43 PM
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If you spend the money for a BMW, don't start by putting gas in the car in direct conflict with BMW's directions. Run premium.
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Old 09-24-2016, 01:44 PM
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If you spend the money for a BMW, don't start by putting gas in the car in direct conflict with BMW's directions. Run premium.
Maybe back in the day. Now a used 335 can be had for a little over $10,000. I would imagine these cars will see plenty of 87 (the lowest in Texas).
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Old 09-24-2016, 01:47 PM
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Old 09-24-2016, 04:54 PM
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I been using premium 91 octane here in Canada which is the recommended according to my owner's manual.
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:45 PM
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Johnny Manpower I ran 87 octane occasionally in my 325i (essentially the same engine, the N52, as your 328i) due to the fact that our other three vehicles used 87 octane and it was a habit to hit the 87 octane button.

I never saw a drop in performance or gas mileage.
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Just because you can't feel it, doesn't mean it's not already pulling timing a bit, resulting in the loss of some responsiveness, performance, and fuel efficiency. I don't understand why anybody would buy a BMW just to not put the proper fuel in it, but that's just me.
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Just because you can't feel it, doesn't mean it's not already pulling timing a bit, resulting in the loss of some responsiveness, performance, and fuel efficiency. I don't understand why anybody would buy a BMW just to not put the proper fuel in it, but that's just me.
I track the mileage of all of our cars. There was no difference, beyond one standard deviation and sometimes the 87 tank had a higher mpg, when I used tanks of 87 octane than when I used 93 octane. I also drove the car like I stole it most of the time and there was no discernible drop in "seat of the pants" performance.

Now as I said, I only put 87 in by accident on occasion, but those occasions were numerous since I had the habit of hitting the 87 button.

As to why anyone would do it on purpose the cost of premium is 50 to 60 cents higher per gallon here in Indiana, and higher in other states.

I chose to put in 93 when I would remember and if I had a 335i I would certainly put in premium but running 87 is perfectly reasonable for people with the N52 engine wanting to save money because I challenge anyone to prove that it drops the gas mileage enough to offset the large savings from using 87 octane.

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Old 09-25-2016, 10:46 AM
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premuim gas at chevron 3.15

premuim gas at chevron 3.15 premuim gas at costco 2.76
chevron spread 3.15,3.05,2.95 (91 ,89, 87) in cali.
Where you buy it is more cost effective than what you buy.
After 4.50 a gallon before the oil price blow out I practically
feel like i have almost returned to the pre 2000's
costco regular 2.37 so there is a 30 cent spread here at costco .
The spreads really haven't changed here so percentage wise
premium becomes more expensive with the base price going lower.

The above prices where pulled off gas buddy today and the stations are
with in one mile of me. I have noticed if I use the Costco in Sunnyvale they
are little cheaper. There is a big difference in the price in the SF Bay area
with the people in San Francisco really taking it in the shorts there gas prices
can be up to a dollar more a gallon. If you go to a major at the High Rent areas
or along the main Silicon Valley corridors you can get gouged even at the cheap
brands .

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Maybe back in the day. Now a used 335 can be had for a little over $10,000. I would imagine these cars will see plenty of 87 (the lowest in Texas).
OK, then even more basic. If you buy a car designed to run on premium, WHY NOT run premium in it??? You are welcome to screw up your car or take a chance on damaging the engine any way you want to, but if you don't want to buy the right gas, why did you buy a BMW? The point isn't price, it's maintaining the vehicle the way it's designed to be maintained.

I'm sure a nice Subaru that runs on regular would be a good choice.
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I track the mileage of all of our cars. There was no difference, beyond one standard deviation and sometimes the 87 tank had a higher mpg, when I used tanks of 87 octane than when I used 93 octane. I also drove the car like I stole it most of the time and there was no discernible drop in "seat of the pants" performance.

Now as I said, I only put 87 in by accident on occasion, but those occasions were numerous since I had the habit of hitting the 87 button.

As to why anyone would do it on purpose the cost of premium is 50 to 60 cents higher per gallon here in Indiana, and higher in other states.

I chose to put in 93 when I would remember and if I had a 335i I would certainly put in premium but running 87 is perfectly reasonable for people with the N52 engine wanting to save money because I challenge anyone to prove that it drops the gas mileage enough to offset the large savings from using 87 octane.
Indiana is generally nice and flat. If you're in some hills and long grades where you have a nice load on the engine in top gear, the engine control electronics might have to pull enough ignition timing due to knocking that you lose a bit of torque, and then have to drop a gear to make it up the grade. This happened to me all the time in an older non-BMW car that only "required" 87 octane fuel, but clearly was designed for more (Japanese V6 car). It would hold top gear on uphill grades, and actually get better mileage and perform better if I kept 91+ octane in it. These cars are no different in operation, so YMMV.
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OK, then even more basic. If you buy a car designed to run on premium, WHY NOT run premium in it??? You are welcome to screw up your car or take a chance on damaging the engine any way you want to, but if you don't want to buy the right gas, why did you buy a BMW? The point isn't price, it's maintaining the vehicle the way it's designed to be maintained.

I'm sure a nice Subaru that runs on regular would be a good choice.
Nobody is going to blow up their engine by putting 87 octane fuel in it. It might not run at its best depending on driving style, cycle, conditions, hills, etc, but knock sensors and modern engine control electronics have been taking care of the issue of when 87 octane fuel is put in the tank for an engine that's designed to run on higher grade gas for over 25 years now. Modern engine controls are sophisticated enough that most people probably won't even notice the difference. On my old 1999 Maxima it didn't have multiple maps and tried to run a premium map all the time. You "could" put 87 octane fuel in that car, and it would run, just not well at all, and it would jerk you around quite a bit.
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Nobody is going to blow up their engine by putting 87 octane fuel in it. It might not run at its best depending on driving style, cycle, conditions, hills, etc, but knock sensors and modern engine control electronics have been taking care of the issue of when 87 octane fuel is put in the tank for an engine that's designed to run on higher grade gas for over 25 years now.

Very true.

Then again, let's consider:

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93 octane..........vs..........87 octane



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Which would you prefer?


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Very true.

Then again, let's consider:

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93 octane..........vs..........87 octane



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Which would you prefer?


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Come on.... Want me to say I like diesel?

No, not the one with blue dress

Diesel?

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