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Old 06-20-2011, 04:56 AM
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Z4 2003 - jack type ?

Hello again,

I want to buy a jack. I think only a hydralic type (with the small 1 inch
circular top) will fit into the jack slot but I'm not sure if that spot on the car
can handle the load...

On the other hand, a floor jack with the 3 inch circular head won't fit
inside the rectangular plastic housing.

I know the dealer sells that little 1 by 2 inch block of steal which will fit
inside the jacking slot but I'm in the philippines and I'm not sure if they
have it at any dealer.

Solutions ?

thanks all

Michael
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:13 PM
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Hello again,

I want to buy a jack. I think only a hydralic type (with the small 1 inch
circular top) will fit into the jack slot but I'm not sure if that spot on the car
can handle the load...

On the other hand, a floor jack with the 3 inch circular head won't fit
inside the rectangular plastic housing.

I know the dealer sells that little 1 by 2 inch block of steal which will fit
inside the jacking slot but I'm in the philippines and I'm not sure if they
have it at any dealer.

Solutions ?

thanks all

Michael
Contact the dealer and see if they can order you one, and if you are meaning the square pieces, one front and one toward rear on both sides that are made for jacking up the car, yes, they can handle being used to jack up the car, its what they were made for..
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:37 PM
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You do not absolutely need anything to fit into the jack pad. If you completely cover the pad you will be ok.. I jack my two Z's all the time.
But if you must have an adapter, check here: http://www.ecstuning.com/ES251251/

Check out this post for the other jack points.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=37
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:10 PM
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I guess I'm not understanding something.

The jack points are shrouded by a rectangular piece of plastic, right ?
Are you saying you place your jack right onto this without the adapter
which fits inside the slot ?

You said you 'cover' it. Can you clarify,
I assume you don't mean you place a block of wood.

Thanks, hope these aren't ridiculous questions.

Michael

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Old 06-20-2011, 06:29 PM
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I guess I'm not understanding something.

The jack points are shrouded by a rectangular piece of plastic, right ?
Are you saying you place your jack right onto this without the adapter
which fits inside the slot ?

You said you 'cover' it. Can you clarify,
I assume you don't mean you place a block of wood.

Thanks, hope these aren't ridiculous questions.

Michael
The jacking points are not shrouded by the jack pads. The plastic jack pads ARE the jacking points. You do not remove the rectangular jack pad. You put the jack on the pad. Yes you just cover the complete plastic jack pad with your jack or use an adapter to fit into the jack pad. You always use the jack pad so you don't damage the underbody.

I have a couple of old hockey pucks to add some height to the jack if I need to, and I have used a small block of wood. That works also.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:32 PM
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Here is what I am talking about. The jack pad.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-17...-z4-x3-x5.aspx
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:09 PM
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I guess I'm not understanding something.

The jack points are shrouded by a rectangular piece of plastic, right ?
Are you saying you place your jack right onto this without the adapter
which fits inside the slot ?

You said you 'cover' it. Can you clarify,
I assume you don't mean you place a block of wood.

Thanks, hope these aren't ridiculous questions.

Michael
Make an adapter between the jack point and jack.

Make it out of plywood. A rectangular that fits into the jack point 3/8" thick.
Screw and glue the rectangular to a larger rectangular 3/4" thick.

I made that for my first Z3. From that I made my Delrin adapters (08/2003).
The ones I made are 2 5/8" diameter.
As a cost reference, my new CNC guy quoted (my cost) $18.00 each count of 50 and $25.10 count of 20.
Although it looks simple to make, it isn't.

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:28 PM
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OH,,,,thanks so much for the info.

I'd been reading that these plastic shrouds are useless, that they fall off,
and thus I assumed they just got in the way of placing the jack onto the jack point.
Nowhere is this explained the way you explained it.

Now I know what to buy and about using a block of wood to help distribute
the weight of the car.

Michael, Baguio
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Old 06-23-2011, 07:23 AM
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Just to add a point: if you can find a good jack that has a FLAT top for jack plate...and the jacking cup is usually rubber covered, that can be placed right up against the hard rubber plastic jacking "blocks" or pads that hang down from the car. No need for anything else. I did make my own wooden circle pads to fit into the jack cup...and then added a small rectangular block on top of the circular wood, [which all fits into the jack cup]. BUT now with the rubber insert which came with my new one, I have not used the wooden 'block' inserts. No need. One thing: if you are jacking up the car...and using these jacking points/blocks that hang down, you now have no place to put the jack stands. Please do not get under the car [no insult to your abilities here] without the stands. Changing wheels maybe...but jacks fail, and its all a deadly thing. When using stands, I run car up on wooden platforms, place jack at front or rear center locations, jack it up and place stands front or rear, at the regular side jack blocks/pads on car. My stands are flat topped and are rubber covered...so no need for the little wooden inserts as well. Good luck and play it safe...
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Old 06-23-2011, 05:40 PM
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Thanks for the tips again. Yes me entire confusion were the pads.

Oh, don't worry, I wouldn't get under a car help up simply
by a jack, I would want a jack stand as back up. I've been working on cars
occasssionally since age 16 but still only possess barely passable knowledge

My original post on this subject was really for changing a tire during a trip .
I don't intend to do any real skilled work, I'll let real mechanics handle that

Love my Z4 (previously owned a 2000 325i, 560 SL MB).

michael, Baguio City
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