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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 10-22-2016, 12:33 PM
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need opinions about CPS

Looks like i need a new camshaft position sensor. I have read up on it here and see the recommendations to use a BMW replacement for quality purposes. Autozone has a duralast with a lifetime warranty for 86 bucks. Since they are easy to change out I'm thinking about getting one just because if it doesn't last as long as the 100+ dollar one i can just exchange it. Plus I would not have to wait for it to come in the mail. I have a 1998 528i. Thoughts? Thank you in advance for your opinions.

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Old 10-22-2016, 01:56 PM
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Its not just longevity that's a concern with electronic parts like that, its accuracy. Does it read in the same range, with the same graduations? Is it made to the same tolerance?

That's the big issue with non OE electronics from all manufacturers.

If the price difference is less than $100, I would absolutely go OE, or at least something the community knows to be good. Autozone... who knows whats in the box. Might be a good mfr, might not.

The real MFR might be stamped on the part case. Vemo of FEBI or someone. IF you can get the name you can search that and get feedback. Its unlikely Autozone has commissioned their own; they're remarketing someone else's part.

Hopefully the Autozone is a good one, since I've heard shipping to HI is expensive, or slow, or both.

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Old 10-22-2016, 02:27 PM
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A tow home after your car strands you on the side of the road cost a lot more than the money you saved on a cheap sensor.
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Old 10-22-2016, 04:43 PM
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I've recently purchased both intake and exhaust cps from rmeuropean.com and they were the exact same thing as the BMW part but with the BMW logo scratched off. Both work perfectly and I saved a bundle.
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:10 PM
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I've recently purchased both intake and exhaust cps from rmeuropean.com and they were the exact same thing as the BMW part but with the BMW logo scratched off. Both work perfectly and I saved a bundle.
I worry about things like that.

Were the counterfeit and the logo scratched off because it was printed by mistake?
Were they manufactured for BMW but failed QC and BMW failed to accept them?
BMW might have done a random sampling of the batch and failed the lot and those might be fine...
Or were was it an over-run or something?

Also a little odd that RM would sell them. They've been around a while, though they have undergone changes. They used to be a dealer and sell the entire OE Line, but now they seem to be more of a retailer with a more limited selection.
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:50 PM
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Here is what I got from autozone, looks identical, we will see. I'll let you guys know if I have any problems.
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Makes one wonder why the manufacturer removes their name and the BMW logo. Did that component not meet their QC specs? If not what is the reliability of the component?
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:00 PM
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Makes one wonder why the manufacturer removes their name and the BMW logo. Did that component not meet their QC specs? If not what is the reliability of the component?

It actually has to do with the molds them self for the injection machine,

the rights and $$ is what goes in to this thought process,

The same machine makes the coke bottles, as makes the pepsi bottles, just the owner pays for the rights to the mold it self, (that's a little hard to explain)

but at the end of the day, it comes off the same injection molder (per say)
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:20 AM
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I worry about things like that.

Were the counterfeit and the logo scratched off because it was printed by mistake?
Were they manufactured for BMW but failed QC and BMW failed to accept them?
BMW might have done a random sampling of the batch and failed the lot and those might be fine...
Or were was it an over-run or something?

Also a little odd that RM would sell them. They've been around a while, though they have undergone changes. They used to be a dealer and sell the entire OE Line, but now they seem to be more of a retailer with a more limited selection.
I don't think this is a QC issue. I would not expect BMW to go over sampling of thousands if not millions of parts to confirm quality. I think their part suppliers may have excess inventory of BMW stamped parts that are not selling due to the market flooding of low cost aftermarket units and instead of holding them on their shelf indefinitely , they scratch off the BMW logo (to avoid contractual issues) and sell them to third parties to recoup some of their inventory money.
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Old 10-24-2016, 10:49 AM
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I don't think this is a QC issue. I would not expect BMW to go over sampling of thousands if not millions of parts to confirm quality. I think their part suppliers may have excess inventory of BMW stamped parts that are not selling due to the market flooding of low cost aftermarket units and instead of holding them on their shelf indefinitely , they scratch off the BMW logo (to avoid contractual issues) and sell them to third parties to recoup some of their inventory money.
But did you also notice the manufacturer's name (SIEMENS) was also removed. That would concern me.
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:36 AM
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Good point. Maybe they don't want any brand trademarks on these parts for whatever legal reasons. My cps came in a static bag with only the part number sticker affixed . These came with the Duralast box, which represents the Autozone brand which they may not want to be affiliated with the Siemens or BMW name. I think it falls into legalities issues but quality is not out of the question. Only time will tell if these products perform as Good as OEM. For me, so far so good.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:17 PM
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They even rubbed the stuff off of the rubber boot. Working great though, but it has only been 1 day lol
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