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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 10-08-2015, 10:09 AM
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E39 Paint code mystery

Hello,
I have recently purchased a 2001 E39 523i here in Bangkok.
I went to order a boot (trunk) lip spoiler online and thought I better confirm the colour first, even though it's what I think is #354 Titanium Silver. However,the paint code sticker is clearly saying CosmosSchwartz, or Black.
this car has NEVER been in an accident or resprayed.

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Old 10-08-2015, 10:11 AM
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Uhm. That does not look like cosmosschwarz.
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:16 AM
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Welcome to Bimmerfest. Check this site, just input the last 7 digits of the VIN.
http://www.etk*****bmw/EN/vin/decoder/online/
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:19 AM
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I'm afraid this link didn't work for me...

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Welcome to Bimmerfest. Check this site, just input the last 7 digits of the VIN.
http://www.etk*****bmw/EN/vin/decoder/online/
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I know it works....gives you all the optional features of the car,etc
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Keep us posted what you find.
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Your link was censored...

Try http://www.bmwvin.com
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For some odd reason, I'm digging those tail lights, facelift look but still have the orange turn signals
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I all else fails, here is another VIN decoder: http://bimmer.work/
You should be able to get the original paint code for the car by typing in the last 7 digits of your VIN.
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Old 10-08-2015, 06:23 PM
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Could you elaborate? Do I have differing tail lights to the norm or?
I'm new to the Marque, but having conquered all from Lancia to Volvo to Chrysler I'm sure it won't long before I'm spotting differences.
I was gonig to search for clear turn-signal type lights, as I think it's a cleaner look.

Also, could anyone confirm that it is actually titanium silver before I order parts?



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For some odd reason, I'm digging those tail lights, facelift look but still have the orange turn signals
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Could you elaborate? Do I have differing tail lights to the norm or?
Yours are like a hybrid of these 2 style lights. They have the LED's and are post facelift, the only difference is yours have the amber turn signals instead of white like the picture. I just thought it looked cool as I've never seen that before. I do like the white look better as well.
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Interesting, thanks.
I'll be heading down to the car parts district here in BKK on the weekend, to see what's about. Should be educational if nothing else.
Being Asia I'm sure there's every combination and permutation of parts and accessories


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Yours are like a hybrid of these 2 style lights. They have the LED's and are post facelift, the only difference is yours have the amber turn signals instead of white like the picture. I just thought it looked cool as I've never seen that before. I do like the white look better as well.
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Yeah, some markets got the amber turn signals like on US model pre-facelift models on their facelift ones.
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Could you elaborate? Do I have differing tail lights to the norm or?
I'm new to the Marque, but having conquered all from Lancia to Volvo to Chrysler I'm sure it won't long before I'm spotting differences.
I was gonig to search for clear turn-signal type lights, as I think it's a cleaner look.

Also, could anyone confirm that it is actually titanium silver before I order parts?



Thanks alot
Is that what the vin decoder came up with?
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A bit off topic, but seems Thailand market got a different engine size (523i) to everywhere else..



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Old 10-09-2015, 06:53 AM
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No that's a crop from a colour chart I found, haven't tried the VIN decoder yet...
So would you say my car is Titanium silver?

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Old 10-09-2015, 09:01 AM
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No that's a crop from a colour chart I found, haven't tried the VIN decoder yet...
So would you say my car is Titanium silver?
Try the vin decoder. We wont know till you try it.

Most likely is that the hood is a black painted silver.
But first try the vin decoder please.
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Hi,

Where is that sticker on the car?

The oem location for the colour code is on the left side front suspension turret. If it's anywhere else, then you know someone sometime has played around with this car. If it's in the oem location, then you still know someone has played around with this car in the past as it's obviously not cosmos schwarz black !

The VIN decoder should provide you with more information.

The rear lamp clusters are amber indicator facelift CELIS ones. Some markets had them as standard whilst other's had the white/clear versions.

The UK also got a 523i as well, although that engine was dropped for the facelift changeover.

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It looks like it to me, but you'd really have to run the VIN on the decoder. I had a titanium silver 528, but it seemed darker than that.
Check that strut tower for the sticker if the one you posted isn't from there. There is one on the hood, too, I believe.
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Keep us posted what you find.
Finally got around to running the VIN number. I was a little concerned, as the number stamped near strut tower was quite short, just two letters and 5 numbers. Turns out it's an abridged version of the full VIN number that I've seen usually on other cars. ???

So it is Titan Silber, bonnet must have been replaced at some point.
Don't know why they'd reattach the Cosmo Schwartz sticker though.

Seems I've got a HECK of a transmission. I trust this is above standard spec?





Also, I'm having to add up to half a litre of coolant every week.
It doesn't leak a drop, there's no hissing sound of escaping steam, and It's not going into cylinders or oil, so where the hell is it all going???
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Also, I'm having to add up to half a litre of coolant every week.
It doesn't leak a drop, there's no hissing sound of escaping steam, and It's not going into cylinders or oil, so where the hell is it all going???
Have you bled any trapped air out of the cooling system?
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Finally got around to running the VIN number. I was a little concerned, as the number stamped near strut tower was quite short, just two letters and 5 numbers. Turns out it's an abridged version of the full VIN number that I've seen usually on other cars. ???

So it is Titan Silber, bonnet must have been replaced at some point.
Don't know why they'd reattach the Cosmo Schwartz sticker though.

Seems I've got a HECK of a transmission. I trust this is above standard spec?





Also, I'm having to add up to half a litre of coolant every week.
It doesn't leak a drop, there's no hissing sound of escaping steam, and It's not going into cylinders or oil, so where the hell is it all going???
It's not going anywhere, you just haven't bled the hoses and the top of the radiator properly, there is a reason why there are several bleed screws on the E39 cooling system. Start your car with a cold engine, open the reservoir filler, fill it up completely with distilled water until the float pops right up, put the cap on, then start with the bleeder valve on the hose, loosen it and let the water flow until no bubbles show, then close it, next open the bleed valve slightly on the expansion tank, keep the engine running when doing so and don't open the cap. the expansion tank bleed screw should have no bubbles showing, just a steady stream of water, once you see that, close the valve and voila, job done
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It's not going anywhere, you just haven't bled the hoses and the top of the radiator properly, there is a reason why there are several bleed screws on the E39 cooling system. Start your car with a cold engine, open the reservoir filler, fill it up completely with distilled water until the float pops right up, put the cap on, then start with the bleeder valve on the hose, loosen it and let the water flow until no bubbles show, then close it, next open the bleed valve slightly on the expansion tank, keep the engine running when doing so and don't open the cap. the expansion tank bleed screw should have no bubbles showing, just a steady stream of water, once you see that, close the valve and voila, job done
So air in the system is repeatedly ending up in the expansion tank, making it seem as though the fluid keeps disappearing? Is this not similar to bleeding and eventually all air should end up in the exp. tank, eventually resulting in the cooling system not being able to take any more fluid?

Thanks for the tip, appreciated. I had actually watched a youtube vid on bleeding, and am aware the screw near radiator cap is for that purpose, I'll keep adding for now and see what's up.

Also, how common is the built in sun shade option? all rear door windows have retractable blinds, and the rear 'screen has an electric sun shade that rises up from the parcel shelf. (reminds me of a bullet-proof screen).
It's a common option here as Thai folks avoid the sun like vampires, but everywhere else??
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It's not going anywhere, you just haven't bled the hoses and the top of the radiator properly, there is a reason why there are several bleed screws on the E39 cooling system. Start your car with a cold engine, open the reservoir filler, fill it up completely with distilled water until the float pops right up, put the cap on, then start with the bleeder valve on the hose, loosen it and let the water flow until no bubbles show, then close it, next open the bleed valve slightly on the expansion tank, keep the engine running when doing so and don't open the cap. the expansion tank bleed screw should have no bubbles showing, just a steady stream of water, once you see that, close the valve and voila, job done
OK, bleeding not same as air eventually ending up in expansion tank.
Although after disturbing top bleed screw it began leaking, as the bleed screw is corroded. Replacing tomorrow.
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